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I just realized I might have overpaid on my 2020 taxes and could be eligible for a decent refund. I was going through some old documents while organizing my home office and found receipts for business expenses I completely forgot about (I was doing some freelance work on the side during the pandemic). The problem is, I'm pretty sure I've heard there's a 3-year limit on claiming refunds from the IRS. We're now in early 2024, which puts me right at that limit for my 2020 return which I filed on time in 2021. Does anyone know if the 3-year limit is absolutely firm, or if the IRS makes any exceptions? I'm talking about roughly $3,800 in business expenses I never claimed that would probably get me back around $900. Worth pursuing or am I too late? Also, if I am still within the window, what's the fastest way to file an amended return? I've never done one before.
Last year, our restaurant got acquired and we all transferred to the new management company, so I ended up with two W-2s for the tax year. One of those W-2s correctly showed my Cafe 125 deductions (which reduced my box 1 wages), but the other W-2 completely missed those deductions. I noticed this back in February and contacted our payroll provider (Paychex) right away. After weeks of emails and calls, they finally sent me a new W-2 with the proper adjustments. The problem is I already filed my taxes using the incorrect W-2 because I didn't want to miss the April deadline while waiting for Paychex to fix their mistake. I'm preparing an amended return now, but I have two questions that are confusing me: 1. Should Paychex have issued a W-2C for this correction? They're saying no, that they just "fixed" the original W-2. That seems weird to me. 2. Do my Cafe 125 deductions need to be listed in box 14? They were shown there on my other W-2, but not on this corrected one. Does this even matter for tax purposes? Thanks for any help with this! I just want to make sure I'm filing my amended return correctly.
I work in payroll and can confirm that a W-2C should have been issued in your situation. When an employee has already received an incorrect W-2, the proper procedure is to issue a W-2C showing the corrections, not just send a "new" W-2. For Cafe 125 deductions, they don't technically need to be in Box 14, but it's considered a best practice to list them there so employees understand why their Box 1 wages are lower than their gross pay. The important part is that Box 1 wages are correctly reduced by these pre-tax contributions. When you file your amended return, make sure to include both the original W-2 and the corrected one, along with a note explaining the situation.
Thank you for the insider perspective! That's really helpful. Do you know if there's any way I can request that they issue a proper W-2C instead of just this "updated W-2"? I'm worried about potential issues with my amended return without the proper documentation.
You should contact your payroll department again and specifically request a W-2C, explaining that you've already filed using the incorrect W-2 and need the proper correction form for your amended return. Mention that this is the standard procedure according to IRS guidelines. If they continue to refuse, you can still file your amended return with the documentation you have. Include a written explanation that you requested a W-2C but the employer only provided an updated W-2. The IRS is familiar with employers not always following proper procedures, and your explanation should help prevent any issues with your amended return.
Your situation is suuuper common with companies that switch payroll systems or get acquired! I had the exact same issue last year when my company switched from ADP to Paylocity mid-year. For your amendment, make sure you're using Form 1040-X and include copies of BOTH the incorrect W-2 you originally filed with AND the corrected one. Even though it's not a proper W-2C, the IRS will still process your amendment. Pro tip: If you're using tax software for the amendment, most of them will walk you through how to handle a W-2 correction. TurboTax specifically has a section for "I received a corrected W-2" that works even if it's not technically a W-2C.
Hi everyone! I'm trying to figure out if I qualify for the Saver's Credit this year. I've been contributing to my Roth IRA but I'm confused about the full-time student exclusion. I took 3 classes in the spring semester (9 credits) and 4 classes in the fall semester (12 credits). My school considers 12+ credits as full-time. Does this mean I'm disqualified from the Saver's Credit for the entire year since I was full-time for one semester? Or am I eligible since I was only part-time for half the year? I've been working 30 hours a week at my job throughout the year while taking classes. My AGI is around $29,000 if that matters. Really appreciate any help on this!
Something important to keep in mind about the Saver's Credit that people often miss - even if you qualify based on student status, you need to make sure you're not being claimed as a dependent on someone else's tax return. If your parents are claiming you as a dependent, you're not eligible for the credit regardless of your student status or income level. Also, don't forget that the credit has different percentage tiers based on income and filing status. With an AGI of $29k, you'd be in the 10% or 20% tier depending on whether you're filing as single, head of household, or married.
Good point about the dependent status. I'm 25 and completely support myself, so my parents definitely aren't claiming me as a dependent. And I'm filing as single. With my $29k AGI, do you know which percentage tier I'd fall into exactly?
For a single filer with a $29,000 AGI in tax year 2024 (filing in 2025), you'd qualify for the 10% Saver's Credit tier. The 50% tier cutoff for single filers is $21,750, the 20% tier goes up to $23,500, and the 10% tier extends to $36,500. So with your contribution to your Roth IRA, you'd get a tax credit worth 10% of your contribution amount, up to a maximum credit of $200 (which would be based on a $2,000 contribution). Every bit helps when it comes to tax savings!
Has anyone here actually claimed the Saver's Credit successfully using TurboTax or H&R Block software? I'm using TurboTax and it kept asking me confusing questions about my student status that didn't seem to match what everyone is saying here.
I used H&R Block last year and it handled the Saver's Credit correctly. The software asked if I was a full-time student for at least 5 months during the year (yes/no question) rather than asking for all the specific months. Make sure you're answering based on the 5-month rule, not just whether you were in school.
So I usually handle my own taxes every year, but for 2022 my ex-husband insisted we use his accountant since we were filing jointly. Huge mistake! The accountant completely missed one of my W2s (I had two jobs, ex had one). Now the IRS is telling us we owe about $5000 to federal and another $1000 to state. I have timestamped proof that I sent ALL the W2s to this accountant. He even admitted he screwed up and offered to pay the $800 penalty and "negotiate with the IRS" but won't cover the actual $6000 tax bill we now owe. This has totally wrecked both our lives. If we'd known about this in April 2023 when he filed, we could've actually paid it because we were both working good jobs. But now? I have zero income and am filing bankruptcy because of medical issues. My ex is barely making rent even with tons of overtime. Our situation has changed completely since the filing deadline. This accountant's mistake has put me under a debt that's gaining interest that I CANNOT pay now, whereas last year we could have handled it with our 2022 earnings. I'm absolutely livid about this. When I did our taxes myself, I never made these kinds of massive errors. What would you guys do in this situation? I feel totally screwed.
You might want to file a complaint with your state's board of accountancy. CPAs are licensed professionals and there are standards they have to meet. The fact that he admitted fault means he knows he screwed up badly. Also, check if your accountant has professional liability insurance. Most do, and this is EXACTLY what it's for. Don't let him off the hook by just paying the penalties - his insurance should cover the actual tax bill too since his error caused this problem.
Do you know if there's a time limit for filing these complaints? The taxes were from 2022 but we just found out about the error when we got the IRS notice last week. Also, how would I find out if he has liability insurance? He hasn't mentioned anything about insurance, just offered to pay the penalties.
The time limit for filing complaints with state boards of accountancy varies by state, but typically it's between 1-5 years from when the incident occurred or was discovered. Since you just found out about the error, you should still be well within the timeframe. You can directly ask the accountant if they have professional liability insurance (sometimes called errors and omissions insurance). Most legitimate accounting practices carry this coverage. If they're hesitant to answer, that's a red flag. You can also mention that you're considering filing a complaint with the state board - this often motivates professionals to reach out to their insurance carriers rather than risk disciplinary action or damage to their reputation.
Surprised nobody mentioned this, but you should file Form 843 with the IRS requesting abatement of penalties due to reasonable cause. Since you have proof the accountant had all docs and they admitted fault, you have a strong case. Include a letter from the accountant admitting the error. You still owe the taxes, but might get all penalties and interest removed. Also, file an amended return ASAP to stop additional interest from accruing.
I'm really frustrated trying to file my taxes this year through free file fillable forms because I don't want to pay the ridiculous fees TurboTax and others charge. But my return keeps getting rejected with an error saying my Form 8863 page 2 is missing information specifically on lines 22a (2) and (3) or 22b (2) and (3). These are just simple checkboxes about whether I received a 1098-T form and if box 7 was checked on it. I've double-checked my 1098-T like five times and I'm certain I filled everything out correctly! I only completed section 22a since I only went to one school this year. Has anyone else run into this problem with Form 8863? I'm trying to figure out if this is a glitch in the free file system or if I'm missing something obvious. Would rather not have to call the IRS (ugh) or mail in my return if I can avoid it. Any help would be appreciated!
For anyone still having issues with Form 8863, here's another possible solution that worked for me: try using a different browser. I was having constant rejections using Chrome, but when I switched to Firefox, my form was accepted without any other changes. Also, make sure you're reporting your 1098-T information the same way your school submitted it to the IRS. If box 1 is filled on your 1098-T but you're trying to use amounts from box 2 on Form 8863, that could cause a mismatch the system will reject.
Would this browser trick work with Edge too? I don't have Firefox installed and don't want to download another browser just for this if I don't have to.
I haven't personally tested Edge, but other users have reported success with it. The key seems to be avoiding Chrome, which has some weird compatibility issues with the Free File system's PDF handling. Edge should work better than Chrome since it uses a different rendering engine. The main thing is that some browsers handle the form submissions differently, especially with checkboxes and special characters. If you're getting the same rejection repeatedly in one browser, it's definitely worth trying a different one before giving up.
Has anyone tried printing out Form 8863, filling it out by hand, and then scanning it back in to attach to your electronic return? I've heard this sometimes works when the electronic form keeps getting rejected.
Natasha Romanova
Don't forget that if you're amending your federal return, you might need to amend your state return too! Each state has different deadlines for amendments. For example, California gives you 4 years instead of 3. I almost missed out on a state refund because I was only focused on the federal deadline.
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NebulaNinja
Does anyone know if you have to wait for the IRS to process the federal amendment before filing the state amendment? Or can you do both at the same time?
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Natasha Romanova
You can generally file both federal and state amendments at the same time - you don't need to wait for the federal to be processed first. However, you should make sure the information matches on both amendments. Some states do want you to include a copy of your federal amendment with your state amendment, so have that ready when you prepare your state forms. And definitely check your specific state's deadline - while many follow the federal 3-year rule, quite a few have different timeframes that could work in your favor.
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Javier Gomez
Has anyone actually had success getting the IRS to make an exception to the 3-year rule? I filed my 2019 return late (in 2021) because of personal issues during COVID, and I just realized I'm entitled to a refund but might be outside the window.
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Emma Wilson
The only exception I know of is if you were physically or mentally unable to manage your financial affairs during that time. It's called "financial disability" and requires certification from a doctor. It's in Internal Revenue Code section 6511(h) if you want to look it up.
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Malik Thomas
I've heard military members deployed in combat zones get extensions too, and there might be something for people in federally declared disaster areas. But from everything I've read, they're super strict about that 3-year limit for regular situations.
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