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Nina Fitzgerald

Can Lawyers Claim Lifetime Learning Credit (LLC) for CPA Exam Courses?

Hey tax folks, I'm in a bit of a head-scratcher situation with a client who's an attorney. They want to know if they can claim the Lifetime Learning Credit (LLC) for CPA exam prep courses they're taking. I've been digging through T Reg 1.162-5(a) but feeling unsure. My initial instinct was no, since traditional CPA candidates can't deduct these costs. But I'm second-guessing myself because this attorney already does accounting-related work in their practice and seems to just be adding credentials rather than preparing for an entirely new profession. The lawyer is self-employed and I'm wondering if they could potentially deduct these costs on Schedule C instead? The way I see it, they can already legally perform many CPA functions in their current practice - this is just formalizing their knowledge with a credential. Has anyone dealt with a similar situation or have thoughts on whether the Lifetime Learning Credit (LLC) would apply here? Or maybe the Schedule C approach makes more sense? I'd appreciate any insights!

Jason Brewer

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This is an interesting question about the Lifetime Learning Credit (LLC) and professional education. The key distinction here is between education that qualifies you for a new trade/business versus education that maintains or improves skills in your current profession. For the Lifetime Learning Credit specifically, the IRS doesn't have the same "new trade or business" restriction that applies to business expense deductions. The LLC is broader and allows credit for courses to acquire or improve job skills, even if they lead to a new credential. So your lawyer client could potentially qualify for the LLC for CPA exam prep courses. However, regarding Schedule C deductions, T Reg 1.162-5(a) would apply, and the question becomes whether obtaining a CPA license constitutes a "new trade or business" for someone already practicing law. The fact that they already do accounting work in their practice strengthens the argument that this is enhancing existing skills rather than qualifying for a new profession.

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But wait, if most CPAs can't deduct their own CPA exam prep costs because it qualifies them for a new profession, wouldn't the same logic apply to a lawyer? Just because they can legally do some accounting work doesn't mean they're already in the accounting profession, right?

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Jason Brewer

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That's a good question. The distinction is about what constitutes a "new trade or business" for this specific individual. For most CPA candidates, the credential qualifies them for a completely new profession. But for a lawyer who already performs accounting functions as part of their legal practice, the CPA credential could be viewed as enhancing existing duties rather than qualifying for something entirely new. The key factor is what this lawyer actually does in their current practice. If they regularly handle accounting matters, tax planning, etc., then the CPA credential might be considered an enhancement to existing skills. The IRS looks at the specific duties the person is qualified to perform before and after the education.

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Liam Cortez

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Savannah Vin

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How exactly does that work? Does it just give general advice or actually help determine if specific courses qualify for the credit?

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Mason Stone

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That sounds interesting, but I'm skeptical. Wouldn't you still need a professional to interpret T Reg 1.162-5(a) as it applies to this specific situation? Tax regulations aren't always straightforward.

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Liam Cortez

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Mason Stone

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Emma Olsen

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Lucas Lindsey

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I'm a tax attorney who has gone through this exact situation. The critical factor is whether the lawyer currently performs tasks that CPAs perform. If they're doing accounting, tax planning, financial analysis, etc. as part of their legal practice, then the CPA credential enhances existing skills rather than qualifying for a new profession. Schedule C deduction would likely be better than the Lifetime Learning Credit if they're self-employed and in a higher tax bracket. The LLC is limited to $2,000 with income phaseouts, while a Schedule C business deduction has no cap and reduces SE tax too.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! When you say Schedule C might be better, does that mean you believe the education would qualify as a legitimate business expense under T Reg 1.162-5(a) for someone in this situation?

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Lucas Lindsey

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Yes, I believe it would qualify as a legitimate business expense in this specific case. The key is that T Reg 1.162-5(a) allows deductions for education that "maintains or improves skills required by the individual in his employment or other trade or business." If your client can document that they regularly perform accounting functions in their law practice (like tax planning, financial analysis for clients, etc.), then the CPA education enhances existing skills rather than qualifying them for a new profession. It's the actual tasks performed that matter, not the job title. I successfully took this position on my own return and have advised clients similarly without issues.

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Sophie Duck

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Has anyone considered that this might be eligible for both the Lifetime Learning Credit AND a partial Schedule C deduction? If the courses have mixed purposes (partly for current business, partly for new credentials), you might be able to allocate a percentage to each based on course content.

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I don't think you can double-dip like that. IRS Publication 970 specifically says you can't claim an education credit and a business deduction for the same expense. You have to choose one or the other.

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