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Giovanni Gallo

Can I claim Lifetime Learning Credit for grad school with tuition reduction not counted as income?

I'm working on my PhD and I'm confused about whether I can claim the Lifetime Learning Credit. IRS Pub. 970 states that qualified tuition reductions don't have to be included in income, especially for grad students who teach or research. My situation: I received a T-1098 form showing $765.00 in box 1. When I look at my university's billing portal, I see: Tuition: Graduate Schl PhD CR $765.00 Fellowship: CS Dept CRF -$765.00 Here's what I'm wondering - can I actually claim the Lifetime Learning Credit for this $765 tuition amount even though I didn't technically pay it out of pocket (it was covered by a fellowship), and without declaring the fellowship as income? It almost seems like a loophole if I could get the LLC tax credit without having to report the fellowship as income. The fellowship is labeled as "CS Dept CRF" in my billing portal, not specifically as a "tuition reduction" - does that make a difference? If this is legit, I'm thinking about amending my returns from previous years where my 1098-Ts showed several thousand dollars in tuition. That could be a significant refund! But I want to make sure I'm not missing something obvious here. Where in the tax code would it say I can't claim LLC for amounts I didn't pay directly if the tuition reduction isn't counted as income?

This is a great question about a complicated area of tax law. The key distinction here is understanding what your fellowship is actually covering and how it's classified. When a tuition reduction is qualified (as for graduate students performing teaching/research), it's not included in your income. However, there's a separate question of whether you can claim education credits for expenses you didn't effectively pay. IRS Publication 970 also states: "You cannot use any amount paid or incurred for an education credit if the amount is... used for a tax-free scholarship, fellowship grant, or employer-provided educational assistance." So the general rule is you can't "double-dip" - getting both tax-free money AND a tax credit for the same dollars. Your T-1098 is reporting what the school received as qualified tuition payments, but it doesn't track who actually made the payment. If your fellowship directly paid your tuition (which appears to be the case), then you didn't incur that expense personally, and typically couldn't claim the LLC for it.

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Dylan Wright

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But what if the fellowship is considered a "qualified tuition reduction" rather than a scholarship? The wording in Pub 970 seems different for these categories. Does that change anything? My university classifies these differently on our accounts.

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The classification does matter, but it still follows the same principle of no "double-dipping." If your fellowship qualifies as a tax-free qualified tuition reduction because you're performing teaching or research duties, then you don't report it as income - which is beneficial. However, precisely because it's tax-free, you cannot then claim expenses paid by this tax-free benefit for the LLC. The key is who economically bore the expense. If your tuition was reduced or paid by the institution through a qualified arrangement, then you didn't pay it - the school effectively did. The LLC is designed for expenses you personally incurred, not expenses someone else paid on your behalf tax-free.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Does this also work for figuring out what portion of stipends are taxable vs non-taxable? My university gives terrible guidance and I'm never sure if I'm reporting everything correctly.

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QuantumQuest

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Be careful with amended returns! If you're going to amend previous years to claim the LLC, make sure you're 100% certain of your position. The lookback period for audits is typically 3 years, but can be extended to 6 years if the IRS believes you've substantially understated your income. Amending multiple returns could trigger a review.

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Connor Murphy

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Is there a minimum amount that would trigger an audit for amended returns? I'm in a similar situation but only looking at around $400 in potential credits for last year.

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QuantumQuest

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There's no official minimum threshold that guarantees safety from an audit. The IRS doesn't disclose their exact selection criteria. However, smaller amendments are generally less likely to raise red flags than larger ones. For a $400 credit, the risk is relatively lower, but remember that any amended return has a slightly higher chance of review than an original return. The key is ensuring you have proper documentation to support your position if questioned - keep all your tuition statements, proof of payment, and any documentation about your fellowship/tuition reduction status.

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Yara Haddad

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I think many of you are confusing different concepts. There's a difference between: 1) Scholarships/fellowships (generally taxable unless used for qualified educational expenses) 2) Qualified tuition reductions (tax-free benefit for employees/grad students performing services) 3) Employer education assistance (up to $5,250 tax-free) The OP specifically has a CS Dept fellowship that was applied directly to tuition. This looks like case #1, not #2. Can't claim LLC on this.

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How do you determine which category your funding falls into? My stipend paperwork just says "Graduate Assistant Stipend" but doesn't specify if it's for services or just support.

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