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Just a heads up - even though your 2022 return was accepted, you might still face a late filing penalty IF you owed taxes (which you don't, so you're probably fine since you're getting a refund). For anyone else reading this who missed filing and OWED money, you'll likely face both late filing and late payment penalties. The late filing penalty is usually 5% of unpaid taxes for each month your return is late, up to 25%. The late payment penalty is typically 0.5% of unpaid taxes per month, up to 25%.
Can you claim reasonable cause to avoid penalties? My mom got really sick last year and I completely forgot to file my 2022 taxes until recently.
Yes, the IRS does accept reasonable cause explanations for waiving penalties in certain circumstances, and a serious illness in the family can definitely qualify. You'll need to attach a signed statement explaining the situation when you file your late return. Be specific about the timeline of your mother's illness and how it prevented you from filing on time. Make sure to gather any supporting documentation you can, like medical records or doctor's notes. The more documentation you have, the stronger your case will be. Just be aware that the IRS reviews these on a case-by-case basis, so there's no guarantee, but they do often show leniency in genuine hardship situations.
Something similar happened to me but my e-file for 2022 was rejected cause of an IP PIN issue. Had to paper file instead. Anyone know if paper filing for prior year returns is taking forever right now?
One thing nobody's mentioned - the "reasonable compensation" requirement for S corps doesn't necessarily mean you have to pay yourself regularly throughout the year. The IRS cares about the annual amount being reasonable for your role and industry, not the frequency. I've been running annual payroll for my S corp for 3 years now. I use Gusto, which charges a base fee of $39/month plus $6/person. So yes, I pay the monthly fee year-round, but the simplicity is worth it to me. In December, I run payroll once I know what my business profits will be, making sure my salary meets that "reasonable compensation" threshold. For Form 941, I file every quarter marking zeros for the first three quarters. It's annoying but takes like 10 minutes once you know how to do it. Some states also require quarterly unemployment tax filings even with zero wages. The real headache isn't the payroll itself but documenting why your salary is "reasonable" - keep good records of industry salary surveys, time spent working, etc.
Have you ever tried asking the payroll service to waive the fees for the months you're not running payroll? I've heard some people have had success with that, especially if you tell them you're considering switching to a pay-as-you-go provider.
I actually did try negotiating with Gusto my first year, but they wouldn't budge on the monthly base fee. They explained that even when I'm not running payroll, their system is still maintaining my account, handling compliance updates, and keeping my data secure. I looked into pay-as-you-go options, but for my situation, the convenience of staying with one system and having all my historical data in one place was worth the extra cost. Plus, Gusto handles all my tax filings automatically, which saves me time with those quarterly Form 941s. I just check the numbers before submission.
I just want to point out that there's a third option beyond "subscribe and cancel payroll service" or "pay monthly fees all year" - you can use a CPA that offers payroll services. My accountant charges me a single fee for year-end S corp payroll processing rather than monthly fees. They handle everything - calculating the optimal salary based on my business profits, preparing the W-2, filing Form 941 for that quarter, and ensuring I've met the reasonable compensation requirements. They also keep records to justify my compensation in case of audit. For the other three quarters, they file the Form 941 with zeros as needed. The total annual cost is significantly less than paying a monthly subscription to a payroll service, and I don't have to think about it until December.
Do you have any ballpark on what your CPA charges for this service? I'm trying to compare options and everything seems so expensive for basically running payroll once a year.
I pay about $350 for the annual payroll processing, which includes all the year-end forms, tax filings, and payroll calculations. They also charge about $75 per quarter for filing the zero-wage Form 941s, so all in I'm paying around $575 annually. This was much cheaper than the $468+ I would pay for the annual subscription to even the most basic payroll services ($39/month). Plus, I get the benefit of having professional eyes on my numbers who can advise on optimal salary levels and help document reasonable compensation determinations.
Just to add something important that nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you keep track of all your moving expenses and receipts! If you moved for work, some states (including Colorado) allow deductions for moving expenses even though they're no longer deductible on federal returns after the 2017 tax changes. Also, don't forget to update your vehicle registration and driver's license promptly after moving. Some states have been cracking down on people who move but don't update these things, and it can create questions about your actual residency date.
Thanks for this! I didn't even think about the vehicle registration aspect. Do you know if there's a specific timeframe I need to update those within? And for the moving expenses, does it matter that my company reimbursed part of my moving costs?
Most states require you to update your vehicle registration and license within 30-90 days of establishing residency. Colorado specifically requires it within 90 days of becoming a resident, and they're pretty strict about enforcing it. For moving expenses, if your employer reimbursed you, those reimbursed expenses wouldn't be deductible since you didn't actually incur the cost. However, any unreimbursed moving expenses might qualify for the Colorado deduction. Keep all documentation showing what you paid personally versus what was reimbursed, and definitely mention this to your tax preparer or input it carefully if you're using tax software.
I actually just went thru this exact situation moving from Illinois to Michigan last year. One thing that tripped me up was that I had some retirement income that was taxed differently in each state. Make sure you check if either Arizona or Colorado have any special tax treaties or agreements! Some states have agreements to avoid double taxation on certain types of income. I ended up owing way less than I expected because of this.
Did you use a tax professional or were you able to figure it out yourself with tax software? I'm trying to decide if my situation is complicated enough to justify hiring someone.
3 Make sure to check if you included the corrected 1099-NEC amount on your tax return! Sometimes people receive a corrected form but forget to use the updated figures when filing. If you reported the amount from the corrected 1099-NEC correctly on your return, make that very clear in your response to the CP-2000.
1 Good point - I double-checked and I did use the corrected amount on my Schedule C. Should I specify which line on my tax return shows this income to make it easier for them to see I reported it correctly?
3 Absolutely! Being specific helps the IRS reviewer quickly verify your claim. Mention the exact form, line number, and amount where you reported the income. For example: "This income was correctly reported on my 2024 Form 1040, Schedule C, Line 1, in the amount of $X,XXX as shown on the CORRECTED 1099-NEC." Also, if the corrected 1099-NEC shows a different amount than the original, clearly point out which amount you reported and why. Sometimes corrections involve more than just checking a box - they might change the income amount too. The clearer and more specific you are, the faster they can resolve your case.
16 Don't forget to keep track of all communications with the IRS regarding this issue! I had a similar situation last year, and documentation was key to getting it resolved.
6 What's the best way to document everything? Should I be keeping a log of phone calls too, or just saving copies of written correspondence?
Aidan Percy
Something nobody has mentioned yet - filing separately can sometimes be better if one spouse has income-based student loan payments (especially if they're on an income-driven repayment plan). Filing separately can keep their reported income lower for loan payment calculations, even if it means paying slightly more in taxes. Also, if one spouse has significant medical expenses, filing separately might allow them to deduct those expenses more easily since the threshold is based on AGI (you can deduct medical expenses that exceed 7.5% of your AGI).
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Ana Rusula
ā¢Wait, that's super relevant to us! My husband has about $45,000 in student loans on an income-based plan. How would filing separately affect his payments? Would the tax hit be worth the loan payment savings?
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Aidan Percy
ā¢The impact depends on the specific repayment plan he's enrolled in. If he's on an Income-Based Repayment (IBR), Pay As You Earn (PAYE), or Income-Contingent Repayment (ICR) plan, filing separately could potentially lower his monthly payments significantly because they'll only count his income rather than your combined household income. Whether it's worth it requires calculating both the tax difference and the loan payment savings. For example, if filing separately costs you $1,000 more in taxes but saves $150 monthly on loan payments ($1,800 yearly), you'd come out $800 ahead. Many people in your situation find that the student loan savings outweigh the tax inefficiencies, especially if the income disparity between spouses is significant.
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Fernanda Marquez
Has anyone actually done the math on this? I think the increased standard deduction for married filing jointly usually makes filing jointly better in most cases. For 2025, married filing jointly gets a standard deduction of around $29,200 while married filing separately only gets about $14,600 each. When you factor in the different tax brackets too, most couples come out ahead filing jointly, especially if one person makes significantly more than the other.
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Norman Fraser
ā¢You're right about the standard deduction but wrong about married filing separately. MFS doesn't get the single filer standard deduction - both spouses have to take the same type of deduction (either both itemize or both take standard). And if one itemizes, the other MUST itemize even if they have zero deductions. This trips up a lot of people.
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