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Something important that nobody has mentioned - if this was a REFINANCE (not a first mortgage), you can't deduct all the points in the year you paid them! You have to spread the deduction over the life of the loan. So if you paid $7,800 in points on a 30-year refinance, you can only deduct about $260 per year. A lot of people miss this and incorrectly deduct the full amount in year one.
Is there any exception to this rule? I thought if you use the refinance money for home improvements, you can deduct points immediately?
Also check your monthly mortgage statements - sometimes they'll list the interest rate reduction you received from paying points. Mine shows "Rate: 4.125% (reduced by 0.75% through discount points)" which helped confirm what I paid for when the settlement statement was unclear.
That's a really helpful tip - I hadn't thought to check my monthly statements! I'll take a look at mine tonight. Thanks!
Here's what I do - I create a simple spreadsheet with all my paystub info and then use IRS Publication 15 (Employer's Tax Guide) to double-check the withholding calculations. You can download it free from irs.gov. This helps me verify that my employer withheld the correct amounts. I've caught mistakes twice before, including once when my employer used the wrong state tax rate! Most payroll systems calculate everything automatically, but humans still enter the initial data, and mistakes happen. Last year my employer forgot to include my bonus in Box 1 but still withheld taxes on it, which would have messed up my return if I hadn't caught it.
Is Publication 15 easy to understand for someone who isn't great with tax stuff? Or is there a simplified version somewhere? Also, what specific parts should I look at to check my withholdings?
Publication 15 isn't the most user-friendly document if you're not familiar with tax terminology, but the withholding tables are actually pretty straightforward. Look for the section called "Income Tax Withholding Tables" - there are separate tables for different pay periods (weekly, biweekly, monthly). The key sections to check are the Federal Income Tax tables, the Social Security tax rate (currently 6.2% on earnings up to a certain limit), and Medicare tax (1.45% on all earnings). For most people, verifying these three calculations will catch the majority of potential errors. If you have state income tax, you'll need to check your state's department of revenue website for those rates.
Would it be a good idea to just call my company's payroll department and ask them for an early copy of my W-2? My company is pretty big (over 5000 employees) and i know they use ADP for payroll. Do they typically have this info ready before the end of January deadline?
I work in HR for a large company that uses ADP. Most bigger companies finish processing W-2s around mid-January, but they often don't release them until closer to the January 31 deadline. Sometimes this is because they're still making final adjustments or quality checks. With ADP specifically, employees can usually get early access through their online portal before paper copies are mailed. Check if you have an ADP login - if so, your W-2 might be available electronically 1-2 weeks before the paper version is sent.
Thanks for the insider info! I do have an ADP login but never really use it except to download paystubs occasionally. I'll definitely check there in mid-January. Hopefully I can get a head start on filing since we're planning to use our refund for a down payment on a house!
My brother used one of those tax relief places advertised on the radio. They charged him $3,500 upfront and literally just filled out the same installment agreement request form he could have done himself for free on the IRS website. Complete waste of money. If you're dealing with unfiled 1099 income, just find a local CPA or EA (Enrolled Agent) who specializes in tax resolution. They'll charge you a reasonable fee to file your back taxes and request a payment plan. Don't fall for the marketing from these national "tax forgiveness" chains.
This is so true! I made the same mistake. The "tax relief experts" took my money and then just submitted an installment agreement. When I asked about the "pennies on the dollar" settlement they promised in their ads, they said I "didn't qualify" but only after they had my money. Do these companies ever actually get anyone an Offer in Compromise?
Very few of their clients actually qualify for an Offer in Compromise (the "pennies on the dollar" program). The IRS only approves those when you can prove you have no ability to pay and limited assets. Most people with steady income don't qualify. What these companies do is take advantage of people's fear of the IRS. They charge premium prices for standard services like filing back tax returns and setting up payment plans. The worst part is they often don't even look for legitimate deductions that could reduce the total amount owed. They're focused on processing as many clients as possible, not giving personalized service.
Quick question - if I use a regular CPA to file my old 1099 tax returns, how far back do I need to go? I haven't filed in like 4 years because I didn't know how to deal with my contractor income.
The IRS generally focuses on the last 6 years for unfiled returns, but technically there's no statute of limitations on unfiled tax returns. For practical purposes, most CPAs will recommend filing at least the last 3-6 years to get back into compliance.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - you should also check if you qualify for the home sale exclusion of up to $250,000 ($500,000 for married filing jointly). This applies if the property was your primary residence for at least 2 of the last 5 years before the sale. Doesn't sound like this applies in your case since it's vacant land, but just throwing it out there in case part of the property included a residence.
Thanks for mentioning this, but no, it was just empty desert land that nobody lived on. No structures at all. It literally sat empty for decades until someone decided it was valuable because of the highway exit nearby.
Good to confirm. One other thing to consider - check if your state has different rules for inherited property taxes. Some states have their own tax treatment that might be more favorable than federal. For example, some states might use their own version of stepped-up basis or have special provisions for long-held family property.
Has anyone considered that the $800K sale might trigger a federal gift tax return requirement? If the property was owned by multiple family members across generations and they're all receiving proceeds, there might be gift tax implications depending on how ownership was structured and transferred over the years.
This wouldn't trigger gift tax because it's a sale at fair market value, not a gift. The inheritance portion already happened when OP's mother passed away, and that would fall under estate tax rules (though with only a 15% interest in land worth $800K, it would be well below the estate tax threshold). The sale itself is just converting an asset to cash at market value - no gifting involved. OP and their sister would just each report their portion of capital gains based on their stepped-up basis.
Romeo Quest
Another option: your in-laws can also check if their tax preparer offers a tax transcript service. My accountant was able to pull my tax transcript directly from the IRS which showed exactly what I owed including penalties. Might be worth a quick call to whoever prepared their return.
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Statiia Aarssizan
β’That's a great idea! I'll definitely suggest they contact their tax preparer. Do you know if most preparers offer this service or is it something specialized?
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Romeo Quest
β’Most professional tax preparers can do this if they have proper authorization. Your in-laws would need to have signed a Form 8821 or Power of Attorney (Form 2848) allowing the preparer to access their tax information. If they didn't sign this initially, they might need to do that first. Many enrolled agents and CPAs routinely offer transcript services as part of their package when they prepare returns. It's worth asking, especially since the preparer is already familiar with their tax situation and could explain everything in context.
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Val Rossi
Just a quick note that if the amount they owe is substantial, they might want to look into an IRS payment plan. We ended up owing $14k and set up a monthly payment plan online in about 10 minutes. There's a small setup fee but it beats getting collection notices!
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Eve Freeman
β’Does setting up a payment plan stop the penalties from adding up? Or do you still get charged interest while paying it off?
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