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For what it's worth, I pay about $650 for my tax preparation with a local CPA. I have a regular W-2 job, a rental property, and some stock investments. She always finds enough deductions to more than cover her fee compared to when I was doing them myself. The big value for me isn't just filing correctly - it's having someone to call throughout the year when I have tax questions (like when I was thinking about selling some property, she helped me understand the capital gains implications before I made any decisions).
Do you meet with your CPA in person or is it all virtual? I've been thinking about using someone out of state because they're cheaper than local options but wondered if that creates any issues.
I started with in-person meetings pre-pandemic, but we've been completely virtual for the past two years and it works great. I upload all my documents to her secure portal, we have a video call to discuss any questions, and then she prepares everything. For your situation, using someone out of state can work fine for federal taxes, but just make sure they're familiar with your state's tax laws if you have state income tax. My CPA specializes in my state's property tax rules which is helpful for my rental, but if you don't have special state circumstances, location probably doesn't matter much.
I paid $275 at H&R Block last year and felt totally ripped off. The preparer just typed in exactly what I told her and didn't offer any advice or suggestions. Later found out I missed several deductions I qualified for. Now I use a local CPA who charges $500 but she found me $1800 in deductions H&R missed!
Those tax prep chains are so hit or miss. My parents got a great preparer at Jackson Hewitt for years but when that person left, the new person missed tons of stuff. I think it really depends on the individual preparer's experience more than the company.
Exactly! I think that's the problem - these big chains hire seasonal workers, give them minimal training, and then put them to work. Some might be great if they happen to have background knowledge, but many just follow the software prompts. My CPA actually takes continuing education courses every year to stay current on tax laws and asks me thoughtful questions about my situation that the H&R Block person never considered. She caught that I could deduct some medical expenses and home office deductions that were completely missed before.
Have you considered a cost segregation study for your property purchase? While you can't count the purchase for 2022, you can potentially accelerate depreciation for certain components of the property when you file your 2023 taxes next year. We did this with our office building and were able to significantly front-load the tax benefits rather than waiting 39 years for the full depreciation.
That's really interesting! I hadn't considered cost segregation. Do you know roughly what percentage of the property value you were able to accelerate the depreciation on? And did you use a specialized firm for the study or was it something your regular accountant handled?
We were able to accelerate depreciation on about 25-30% of our property value, which made a substantial difference in our first-year deductions. The components included things like specialized electrical systems, certain fixtures, landscaping elements, and some interior components that could be depreciated over 5-15 years instead of the standard 39 years for commercial property. We used a specialized engineering firm that works alongside our accountant for the study. While it cost around $4,500 for our $750k property, the tax savings in the first few years more than covered this expense. Your regular accountant likely won't have the engineering expertise to properly classify all building components, so I'd recommend finding a firm that specializes specifically in cost segregation studies.
Might be unpopular advice, but have you considered buying the property personally instead of through your C-Corp? The tax treatment can sometimes be more favorable if you buy it personally and then lease it to your corporation. You'd get rental income (which can be offset by depreciation) while your C-Corp gets a rent expense deduction. Just something to consider.
This is actually really good advice depending on your overall situation. My tax attorney suggested this exact approach, and it's worked out much better for me tax-wise. The corporation gets the full deduction for rent payments, and I can take advantage of depreciation plus potential appreciation personally. Just make sure to set a fair market rent to avoid IRS scrutiny.
Something no one mentioned yet - you can also file Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2) with your tax return. Since you have your last pay stub, you should have most of the info you need. My husband had to do this last year when his employer went bankrupt and nobody was answering phones. We just filled out the form with the info from his last paystub and filed it along with our tax return. We didn't have any issues with the IRS accepting it. Just be aware that you might get a letter from the IRS later if the numbers don't match exactly what the employer reported, but you can deal with that if it happens.
Thanks for bringing up Form 4852! I actually didn't know about that option. So if I use my last pay stub to fill out this form, do I need to do anything special when filing my taxes? Like do I need to mail my return instead of e-filing?
You might need to mail in your return instead of e-filing if you're including Form 4852. Some tax software allows you to e-file with this form, but others don't. We ended up mailing ours to be safe. Also make sure you fill out Section 3 of the form explaining why you're filing a substitute W-2 and what efforts you made to get the original (like your phone calls and emails to the company).
If none of these options work out, remember there's one last resort - you can file for an extension using Form 4868. This doesn't give you more time to pay (you'd still owe interest on unpaid taxes), but it gives you until October 15, 2023 to file your 2022 return. That might give you more time to track down your W-2 info. Just making sure you know all your options!
My husband and I are both self-employed too and ran into this last year. We fired our accountant on the spot when he refused to file our 7202 forms and found someone new who was willing to finish our taxes properly. Yes it was more expensive but the credits we got were substantial - about $8300 total between us. Dont let your accountant push you around - this is YOUR money and a legitimate tax credit you're entitled to.
Are you sure the form is even necessary for your situation? Many self-employed people think they qualify for these credits when they actually don't. The credit is specifically for self-employed people who couldn't work because they or someone they care for had COVID or they had to care for kids due to school closures. It's not just a general COVID relief credit. Have you verified you qualify?
This is an important point. A lot of people think any income loss during COVID qualifies, when the form is specifically for days you couldn't work due to very specific reasons. The IRS has been flagging suspicious 7202 claims for audit, so you definitely want to make sure you qualify and have documentation.
Thanks for clarifying! That makes more sense why you're pursuing this. Given your situation, I'd definitely push for including Form 7202. The credits can be substantial. One option not mentioned yet - some tax software programs like TurboTax or H&R Block software allow you to complete Form 7202 yourself. You could potentially use the software just for that form, print it out, and give it to your accountant to incorporate into your return. That's what a friend of mine did when her accountant was being difficult about some rental property deductions.
Connor O'Brien
Something important nobody mentioned yet - when filing an amendment to change from MFS to MFJ, make sure your preparer includes BOTH of your original separate returns with the amendment. A friend of mine had their amendment rejected because they only included one spouse's original return. Also, your preparer should be using Form 1040-X and checking the box that indicates you're changing your filing status. They'll need to complete all three columns (original amount, net change, correct amount) for each line item that's changing. And definitely double-check that your kids are properly claimed with their SSNs!
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Lena MΓΌller
β’This is really helpful! I don't think he included both our original returns when he did the first amendment - that might be part of the problem. Should I be asking for copies of everything before he submits? I'm worried if I don't see it beforehand, I'll end up with another mistake.
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Connor O'Brien
β’Absolutely request copies of EVERYTHING before he submits! You should get: 1) The complete Form 1040-X 2) Any supporting schedules that have changed 3) A copy of both your original separate returns that are being attached 4) Any worksheets he used to calculate the new numbers Review each form carefully and make sure your children are properly listed with their names and SSNs on the appropriate form. Check that the "net change" column accurately reflects the difference between your original filing and the corrected amounts. Don't let him submit anything until you've had a chance to review it all. Given his track record, you're right to be cautious!
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Amina Diallo
Has anyone mentioned that you can actually do this amendment yourself? Since you're not confident in this tax preparer, you might consider DIY. For a filing status change from MFS to MFJ, you'll need: 1) Form 1040-X 2) Both original tax returns 3) A newly completed joint return (as if you had filed jointly originally) The form has instructions, and you can call the IRS with questions. I did this exact amendment last year (changing from MFS to MFJ for 2020) and while it was a bit tedious, it wasn't actually difficult. And I felt better knowing I had control over the process.
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GamerGirl99
β’I did this too but recommend using tax software if you go this route. I used TaxAct for my amendment (changing from single to head of household) and it walked me through everything step by step. It was much easier than trying to figure out all the forms myself.
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