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Just wanted to add something important - if you're owed a refund for 2023, there's actually no penalty for filing late! The IRS doesn't penalize you for filing late if they owe YOU money. You have 3 years from the original due date to claim a refund. But if you do owe taxes like you mentioned, then yes, there are penalties and interest. Still, it's WAY better to file late than never. The IRS is generally pretty reasonable with people who come forward voluntarily vs. those they have to chase down.
Thanks for mentioning this! Unfortunately I'm pretty certain I owe them money since I had some 1099 income without any withholding. But that's good info to know for the future. Do you know if most tax preparers handle late returns like this or should I look for someone who specializes in them?
Most regular tax preparers can definitely handle late returns - it's pretty common and not as complicated as you might think. You don't need a specialized tax attorney or anything unless you have a really complex situation or owe an enormous amount. Any decent tax preparer or even the major tax software packages can guide you through filing a late return. They'll help calculate the penalties and interest too. If your situation is relatively straightforward (W2 income, maybe some 1099 work), you could even do it yourself with good tax software.
Don't panic! I went through this exact thing for my 2020 taxes. Depression is real and the IRS actually does understand that life happens. Quick tip - if you're worried about penalties, look into what's called "first-time penalty abatement" if you have a clean compliance history (meaning you filed and paid on time for the past 3 years before 2023). The IRS often waives penalties for your first offense if you call and explain your situation.
I'm a CPA who works with high-net-worth clients. One thing to consider that others haven't mentioned: you might actually need a team rather than just one person. In my practice, clients with your profile (real estate, trusts, private investments) typically work with: 1. A CPA for tax preparation and planning (quarterly, not just annually) 2. An estate attorney for trust structures and estate planning 3. A financial planner for investment strategy (even if you manage investments yourself) The key is finding a CPA who can quarterback this team and coordinate between specialists. Look for someone who specifically mentions "family office services" for clients who aren't quite wealthy enough for a dedicated family office but need comprehensive services. Also, consider whether you need someone registered as a fiduciary, which legally obligates them to act in your best interest. Not all financial advisors are fiduciaries.
This is a great point about needing a team. Do you recommend finding professionals who already work together or assembling my own team? I'm worried about coordination issues if everyone is working separately.
I strongly recommend finding professionals who already have established working relationships. Ask the CPA you're considering who they regularly collaborate with for estate planning and financial advice. Existing teams will have systems for sharing information efficiently and won't duplicate efforts. The worst scenario is having different advisors giving contradictory guidance. For example, I've seen situations where an investment advisor recommends selling assets that would trigger massive tax consequences the CPA would have advised against. When your team already works together, these issues get addressed before they become problems.
Has anyone used a CPA who specializes in real estate? I'm in a similar situation to the original poster but my biggest complexity is having properties in 3 different states. Tax filing has become a nightmare.
Check out the National Association of Real Estate Tax Professionals (NARETP). I found my CPA through them and it made a huge difference. Multi-state properties create special issues with depreciation tracking and state-specific rules that general CPAs often miss.
Something that hasn't been mentioned here - when you file your amended returns, be prepared for them to take FOREVER to process. I filed an amended return last year and it took almost 8 months to get processed. Just make sure you pay any additional tax you calculate you'll owe when you submit the amendment to avoid penalties and interest continuing to accumulate.
8 MONTHS?? Ugh that's so much worse than I thought. Do you know if there's any way to check the status of an amended return after you submit it?
You can check the status of your amended return using the "Where's My Amended Return" tool on the IRS website. You'll need your SSN, date of birth, and zip code. The tool will tell you if it's been received, adjusted, or completed. But honestly don't expect updates very often - mine sat on "received" for about 6 months before changing to "adjusted". The key thing is to pay whatever additional tax you calculate when you submit the amendment. That way even if it takes forever to process, you won't be racking up additional penalties and interest.
Just want to add - if filing these amendments is going to result in you owing a substantial amount that you can't pay all at once, you can set up a payment plan with the IRS. I had to do this last year and it was actually pretty easy to set up online.
The most tax-efficient way is usually a small salary just above the NI threshold (around £9,500) and then dividends for the rest. That way you get your personal allowance but don't pay much NI, and dividends are taxed more favorably than salary. But you CANNOT just use company money for personal stuff - that's basically stealing from the company (even if you own it).
What about directors loan accounts? I've heard you can borrow from your company?
Yes, director's loan accounts are an option, but they come with strict rules. You can borrow from your company, but if the loan exceeds £10,000, it's considered a benefit in kind and you'll pay income tax on it. Additionally, if the loan isn't repaid within 9 months after your company's year-end, the company will have to pay a temporary tax (currently 33.75%) on the outstanding amount. When the loan is eventually repaid, the tax can be reclaimed, but it creates cashflow issues. Also, if you repeatedly take out loans and repay them (bed and breakfasting), HMRC has anti-avoidance rules that will catch this. Director's loans are legitimate but not a good long-term strategy for extracting value compared to the salary+dividend approach.
Yes! My brother-in-law tried something similar with his plumbing business. HMRC did a routine VAT inspection which led to them looking deeper at his accounts. They found personal expenses being paid directly from the business account and hit him with additional income tax, NI contributions, penalties AND interest going back 4 years. Cost him over £30k in total and now he's on their high-risk list for future audits.
Fiona Gallagher
About those 529 plans - while they don't give federal tax deductions, check if your state offers tax benefits! I live in NY and we get a state tax deduction up to $5K per year per beneficiary ($10K for married filing jointly). Made a huge difference on our state taxes.
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Thais Soares
ā¢This! I'm in Virginia and we get a $4,000 deduction per account on our state taxes. Definitely check your specific state rules - some states like Indiana even offer tax credits instead of deductions which are even better.
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Fiona Gallagher
ā¢Exactly right! State benefits vary hugely - Pennsylvania and Montana have unlimited deductions for contributions, while states like Colorado, New Mexico, and others offer deductions up to the annual gift tax exclusion amount. Some states require you to contribute to their specific 529 plan to get the benefit, while others (like Arizona and Kansas) give you the deduction regardless of which state's plan you use. I'd recommend calling your state tax department directly to confirm what's available. The tax savings might not be as big as federal deductions, but they definitely add up over time, especially if you're contributing for multiple children.
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Nalani Liu
For your property purchase idea, I did something similar buying a rental property. But don't just think about the mortgage interest deduction - consider the overall return. If you buy a $130k property with 20% down, your mortgage interest might only be $5-6k the first year, saving you maybe $1,300 in taxes if you're in the 22% bracket. But you could potentially also depreciate the property (except for the land portion), deduct property taxes, maintenance, insurance, etc. Plus hopefully the property appreciates in value and generates rental income. That's where the real benefit comes from. Don't buy property JUST for tax benefits - it needs to make sense as an overall investment.
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