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Alice Pierce

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My cousin had something similar happen to his electronics store. Since you mentioned you're on a cash basis, one thing to be aware of is that you've got a weird situation where you already expensed the inventory when you bought it (that's how cash basis works). This is actually different from accrual basis businesses where inventory isn't expensed until sold. So technically, from a tax perspective, you don't have the "basis" in that inventory anymore since you already took the deduction. Talk to your accountant about potentially filing an amended return for the year(s) you purchased that inventory, which might be a better approach than trying to claim a theft loss for items already expensed. It's counterintuitive but sometimes makes more sense.

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Esteban Tate

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Wouldn't amending returns from potentially years ago be super complicated though? And aren't there time limits on how far back you can amend?

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Alice Pierce

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You're right that there are time limits - generally 3 years from the original filing date or 2 years from when you paid the tax, whichever is later. So this approach only works if the inventory was purchased relatively recently. The complexity really depends on your specific situation. If most of the stolen inventory was purchased in the last couple of years, amending might actually be cleaner than trying to figure out the theft loss calculations. But if the inventory was accumulated over many years, then the theft loss approach on Form 4684 probably makes more sense despite the complications.

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Has anyone used the IRS Disaster Resource Center for something like this? I know robbery isn't a "disaster" in the federal declaration sense, but they have resources for calculating business losses that might be helpful. Just a thought.

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The IRS Disaster Resource Center is specifically for federally declared disasters, so it wouldn't apply directly to a robbery situation. However, you're right that some of their calculation methods could be helpful as a reference. For a robbery, you'd be better off looking at the specific IRS guidelines for theft losses in Publication 547. There's also some good information in Publication 584-B (Business Casualty, Disaster, and Theft Loss Workbook) that has worksheets for calculating and documenting business losses.

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Mila Walker

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I've been using a CPA who specializes in eCommerce for about 3 years now and it's night and day compared to my previous generic tax person. Make sure whoever you choose understands: 1. Sales tax economic nexus rules (they change constantly) 2. Inventory accounting methods and which is best for your model 3. Home office deductions if you run your biz from home 4. Expense categorization for digital marketing (what's advertising vs. R&D) 5. Entity structure (LLC vs S-Corp issues for your specific situation) Don't just go with someone who says "yes, I work with small businesses" - make them prove they understand eCommerce specifically!

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This is super helpful! I'm definitely going to use these points when interviewing potential CPAs. Quick question though - I've been operating as a single-member LLC but have been thinking about switching to an S-Corp. At what income level do you think that makes sense for an eCommerce/digital marketing business?

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Mila Walker

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For digital marketing agencies and eCommerce businesses, the S-Corp election typically makes sense when your net profit reaches around $40,000-$50,000 annually. At that point, the self-employment tax savings usually outweigh the additional costs and compliance requirements. Remember that with an S-Corp, you need to pay yourself a reasonable salary subject to payroll taxes, with the remainder taken as distributions. For digital service businesses like yours, the IRS expects a higher percentage as salary compared to product-based businesses, usually 60-70% of profits. The exact amount depends on what similar roles would pay in your market and your level of involvement.

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Logan Scott

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Word of warning - don't just go with any "ecommerce specialist" CPA without checking their actual experience. I hired one last year who claimed to specialize in Amazon sellers but completely messed up my inventory deductions and cost me thousands. Ask them SPECIFIC questions about how they handle: - Inventory write-downs for obsolete product - Platform fees classification (are they COGS or expenses?) - International supplier payments and possible withholding requirements - State income tax when you have economic nexus but no physical presence - How they deal with commingled personal/business accounts (if applicable) If they can't give specific answers, RUN!

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Chloe Green

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This is solid advice. My "eCommerce expert" CPA didn't understand that Shopify Payments fees should be treated differently than regular credit card processing. Ended up having to file an amended return. So annoying.

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One thing to consider is that even if filing Form 706 doesn't result in tax due, it provides documentation that protects your family later. My aunt didn't file 706 when my uncle passed (thinking it unnecessary since his estate was under the exemption), but when she passed years later, there were complications with proving basis for inherited assets and questions about prior gifts. The 706, even when no tax is due, creates a clear record of asset values and transfers that can be crucial for future tax situations. It's a pain to complete, but worth it for the peace of mind and future protection.

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Xan Dae

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How much did it cost to have an attorney prepare the 706? I've heard it can be several thousand dollars even for straightforward estates. Wondering if it's worth it when no tax will be owed.

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We paid around $8,000 for the attorney to prepare the Form 706, which included a full inventory and appraisal of assets. This was for a moderately complex estate with some business interests and multiple properties. The cost can vary significantly based on the complexity of the estate and your location. While it seemed expensive at the time, especially since we knew no tax would be due after applying the DSUE, I now view it as insurance against future complications. The step-up in basis alone was worth documenting properly, as it saved significant capital gains taxes when certain assets were later sold. Some attorneys offer more competitive rates for "no-tax-due" 706 filings, so it's worth shopping around.

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Remember that the filing deadline for Form 706 is 9 months after date of death, and you'll need a formal appraisal for any significant assets. Start early! We waited too long and had to file for an extension.

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Thais Soares

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Can confirm this! We scrambled at the last minute and the rush appraisals cost us almost double. Also, make sure to elect portability of any unused exemption even if you don't think the surviving spouse will need it. Tax laws and situations change.

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Levi Parker

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11 One often overlooked approach is to use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online. It's free and walks you through calculating the proper withholding. Make sure your parents have their most recent paystubs and last year's tax return handy when using it. I found it incredibly helpful when my wife and I were in a similar situation - owing about $5,000 because we hadn't updated our W4s after getting married. The estimator asks about both incomes, how often you're paid, and other factors that affect your taxes.

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Levi Parker

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7 I tried using that estimator but got confused halfway through. It asked for projected deductions and I had no idea what to put. Do you just guess? Or is there a way to figure out what deductions they'll have for this year?

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Levi Parker

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11 For the deductions section, you can use last year's deductions as a starting point if your situation hasn't changed much. If your parents take the standard deduction (which most people do now with the higher amounts), you can just select that option without itemizing. If they do itemize, have them look at Schedule A from last year's return and use those figures as estimates, adjusting for any known changes (like if they paid off their mortgage or expect higher medical expenses this year).

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Levi Parker

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5 Don't forget that underpayment penalties can apply if they don't withhold enough throughout the year! To avoid penalties, they generally need to withhold at least 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax (whichever is smaller).

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Levi Parker

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16 Wait, so even if they pay everything they owe by the tax deadline, they can still get penalties if they didn't pay enough during the year?? That seems really unfair!

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Just to add another perspective - I'm an estate attorney (not giving legal advice here) and we see this question frequently. The "deceased" designation on a prior year return is simply informational. It tells the IRS that as of the filing date, this taxpayer is deceased. It doesn't impact the calculation of taxes or filing status for that return - it just helps with administrative tracking. The IRS uses this information to update their records and handle future correspondence appropriately.

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Sean Murphy

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Does the spouse need to file anything special along with the return when they mark the other person as deceased? Like a death certificate or anything official?

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For a joint return where one spouse is deceased, you generally don't need to submit a death certificate with the return itself. You simply write "DECEASED" after the deceased spouse's name at the top of the return, and include the date of death. If the surviving spouse is filing as the deceased taxpayer's personal representative, they should sign the return and write "Filing as surviving spouse" in the signature area. For more complex situations involving larger estates that require Form 706, additional documentation would be needed, but for typical joint returns, the notation is sufficient.

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Zara Khan

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My wife passed in 2023 and I'm still figuring all of this out. One thing no one mentioned here - make sure you get multiple certified copies of the death certificate (like 15+). You'll need them for EVERYTHING - bank accounts, investment accounts, property transfers, insurance, and sometimes for tax purposes too.

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Luca Ferrari

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So sorry for your loss. I went through this with my husband last year. Another tip: request a tax transcript from the IRS for the past few years. Sometimes there are refunds or issues you didn't know about, and it gives you a complete picture of what the IRS has on file.

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