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Zainab Ali

How to get refund after paying a Notice of Deficiency (CP3219N) in full?

I'm in a weird situation with the IRS and could use some advice. Last year in March I received a CP2000 notice for tax year 2021 - apparently some investment stuff from my mutual funds wasn't entered correctly in my return. The proposed amount was around $4,800, but I knew it wasn't right. I promptly sent back all my documentation showing the correct cost basis that would have reduced what I owed to about $2,300. Before they even processed my response, I got hit with a Notice of Deficiency (CP3219N) in May demanding the full $4,800. I panicked and just paid the entire amount because I was terrified of what would happen if I didn't. Fast forward to September, I finally got a response to my original CP2000 documentation showing I actually only owed $2,300 - meaning I overpaid by about $2,500! When I called the IRS about this, the rep told me they didn't review my CP2000 response until June (even though they received it in April), which is why the Deficiency Notice went out with the wrong amount. They said not to worry because "the system will automatically realize I overpaid and issue a refund." It's been 2 months now and I haven't seen any refund. Has anyone dealt with something similar? Will I actually get my $2,500 back or do I need to take some action? I'm pretty skeptical that the IRS is just going to automatically fix this without me doing something.

Connor Murphy

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I've seen this situation before when helping clients with tax issues. What happened is that your CP2000 response crossed in the mail with their automatic Notice of Deficiency, which typically goes out 90 days after the CP2000 if they don't receive a response. The good news is that you should absolutely get your refund. The bad news is that "the system will automatically realize" isn't entirely accurate. While their systems do track overpayments, the timing can be unpredictable and sometimes requires a nudge. Here's what I suggest: Wait another month (3 months total from your September notice). If you still don't see a refund, call the IRS again but this time specifically request a refund of the overpayment. The phone rep can initiate this process for you. Have all your documentation ready - both notices, proof of payment, and your response to the CP2000. You might also consider sending Form 843 (Claim for Refund) if the phone approach doesn't work, though that's usually a last resort for this situation.

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Yara Nassar

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Does waiting longer actually make sense here? I feel like the IRS just forgets about stuff if you don't keep on them. Could they file Form 843 now instead of waiting another month? Also, will they get interest on the overpayment since the IRS has had their money for months?

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Connor Murphy

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You're right that staying on top of things with the IRS is important, but in my experience, giving their internal processes time to work is actually beneficial. The IRS has specific timeframes for processing adjustments, and calling too early often results in being told to wait anyway. Regarding interest, yes! The IRS is required to pay interest on overpayments. The interest begins accruing from the date of the overpayment and continues until the refund is issued. The current interest rate is around 7% annually, which is actually quite good compared to many savings accounts.

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StarGazer101

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Paolo Romano

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I'm a little skeptical of any service claiming to know "exact timeframes" with the IRS. They're notoriously unpredictable. Did it really give you information you couldn't have gotten yourself by just calling the IRS?

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StarGazer101

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Another option to consider - you can request a transcript of your account. Go to irs.gov and search for "Get Transcript Online." The transcript will show if they've processed your overpayment and whether a refund has been scheduled. If the transcript shows the adjustment but no refund, that might indicate something is stuck. If it shows nothing about the adjustment, then they haven't processed your response yet.

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Zainab Ali

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Thanks for this suggestion! I just checked my transcript online and it shows the full payment I made, but nothing about any adjustment or pending refund. Does this mean they haven't processed my response yet, even though they sent me the revised amount in September? Should I be worried?

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That indicates they haven't yet processed the adjustment to your account, even though they acknowledged the correct amount in their September notice. It's not unusual for there to be a delay between them determining the correct amount and actually adjusting your account. I'd give it another 2-3 weeks and check the transcript again. If you still don't see an adjustment by then, that would be the time to call them. When you call, specifically mention that you received a revised CP2000 determination showing you only owed $2,300, but your transcript doesn't show an adjustment for the $2,500 overpayment.

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Javier Torres

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Just a heads up - when you do get your refund, make sure they include interest! By law, the IRS has to pay interest on overpayments. The current rate is around 7% and it should be calculated from the date you made the payment.

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Emma Wilson

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Is that interest taxable? I got a refund with interest last year and wasn't sure if I needed to report it.

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