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Is a tuition waiver considered a scholarship for kiddie tax purposes?

So I'm trying to figure out my tax situation and wondering if my tuition waiver counts as a scholarship for kiddie tax calculations. I received what my university calls a "tuition waiver" (they never actually billed me for tuition) and I also have some unearned income that might trigger the kiddie tax. According to the IRS instructions: > Support. > > Your support includes all amounts spent to provide the child with food, lodging, clothing, education, medical and dental care, recreation, transportation, and similar necessities. To figure your child's support, count support provided by you, your child, and others. However, a scholarship received by your child isn't considered support if your child is a full-time student. For details, see Pub. 501, Dependents, Standard Deduction, and Filing Information. I calculated that if my education expenses are $0 (which technically they are since I wasn't billed), my earned income comes to about 57% of my support, which is over 50%, meaning I wouldn't need to pay the kiddie tax. But I'm not sure if I can actually count my education expenses as $0. My argument is that there were literally no educational expenses since the school never billed me. There were no "amounts spent" on education. My financial aid report even states the tuition waiver is "non-disbursing." Plus, for educational credits, a scholarship has to actually give me money to be claimed, and this waiver didn't. But the opposite argument could be that the waiver IS a scholarship, which means my support costs for education would be $27,000, and there's no way my earned income is more than 50% of my support in that case. My 1098-T shows tuition expenses, but I didn't actually pay anything. I have an appointment with an accountant next month, but I'm trying to prepare and get some idea of what to expect. Any thoughts?

Not sure if this helps, but I had a similar situation with my daughter at UCLA. Our tax advisor explained it this way: If you never received a bill, there was no expense. If there was no expense, there was no support provided for that expense. For the kiddie tax, they look at actual support provided, not theoretical costs that were waived. In our case, we were able to exclude the tuition waiver from the support calculation, which meant her part-time job provided more than 50% of her support. This only works with true tuition waivers though - not scholarships where money actually changes hands. Worth asking your accountant about this specific distinction.

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That's exactly the kind of distinction I was wondering about! Did you have to provide any specific documentation to the IRS to prove it was a waiver and not a scholarship? My financial aid letter does say "tuition waiver" and "non-disbursing" but I'm worried that might not be enough.

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We kept copies of her financial aid award letter that specifically called it a "tuition waiver" and noted it was "non-disbursing." We also kept documentation showing no tuition was ever billed to her student account - just the other expenses like room and board, books, etc. Our accountant said the specific terminology on the financial aid documents is crucial. The fact that yours says "non-disbursing" is very helpful. That's exactly the kind of language that indicates no support was actually provided - there was simply no charge applied. Definitely bring those documents to your accountant appointment!

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One thing to consider that I haven't seen mentioned - look at how your university reported the tuition waiver on your 1098-T. Check Box 5 which shows "Scholarships or Grants." If they included the waiver amount there, the IRS might consider it support regardless of whether cash changed hands. I found this out the hard way. My daughter had a "presidential tuition waiver" but the university reported it in Box 5 of her 1098-T as a scholarship. When we got audited (bad luck!), the IRS considered it as support provided by the university, which meant her earned income wasn't over 50% of her support.

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Lucas Bey

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This is a really good point! The 1098-T reporting can make a huge difference. My son's school didn't include his tuition waiver in Box 5, and we had no issues excluding it from support calculations. But my nephew's university did include his waiver in Box 5, and they ended up having to pay kiddie tax.

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If you still have the TurboTax, I might be interested. My situation is pretty basic - W2 job plus a small side business selling crafts online. Do you think the Home & Business version would be overkill for me? I used the Deluxe version last year but my online sales have increased.

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I think the Home & Business would actually be perfect for your situation with the online craft sales. It's specifically designed for people with a small business or self-employment income. The Deluxe version doesn't include all the business expense categories and Schedule C support that you probably need. Let me figure out how to get this to you without violating any terms of service. Might need to check what the other commenter mentioned about transfers not being allowed.

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Thanks for the info! That makes sense about the Schedule C support. I didn't realize how many business deductions I might be missing with just the Deluxe version. Please let me know what you find out about transferring it.

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Has anyone tried FreeTaxUSA? It's way cheaper than TurboTax and handles all the same forms. I switched last year and it was honestly better than TurboTax for my needs (W2 plus rental property). The interface isn't as pretty but it gets the job done for like 1/5 of the price.

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StarStrider

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I second this! Been using FreeTaxUSA for 3 years now. It handles my freelance work and investment accounts perfectly. Federal filing is free and state is only like $15. No idea why people still pay $100+ for TurboTax.

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Quick tip for anyone still looking - Form 3895 in Proseries 2023 can also be accessed through the Smart Worksheet function. Just type "3895" in the Smart Worksheet search bar and it will take you to the right input screen. Saved me a ton of time once I figured this out!

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Ali Anderson

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Does this Smart Worksheet trick work for finding other hidden forms too? I'm new to Proseries and still learning all the shortcuts.

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Yes! The Smart Worksheet search is actually the fastest way to find any form in Proseries. It works for pretty much everything - just type the form number or even keywords like "depreciation" or "health insurance" and it pulls up relevant forms and input screens. For new Proseries users, I also recommend using the "Recent Forms" dropdown which shows the last 10-15 forms you've accessed. Between these two features, you'll rarely need to dig through the regular menus once you get comfortable with the software.

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Zadie Patel

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Is anyone else noticing that even after entering the Form 3895/1095-A information, the Premium Tax Credit calculation seems off? I've entered everything correctly but the numbers don't match what my clients received on their actual forms.

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I had the same issue last week. There's actually a known bug in the current version that affects the PTC calculation if you enter the information through certain screens. Try entering it directly through Form 8962 instead of the Federal Information Worksheet and see if that fixes it.

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NebulaNomad

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I switched from a CPA ($550/year) to doing my own taxes with software 4 years ago and haven't looked back. My situation is similar to yours - W-2 income, investments, and a rental property. The first year took me about 5 hours because I was learning, but now I can finish in about 2 hours. The software walks you through everything, and there are tons of forums online where you can ask questions about specific situations. The big advantage is that I actually understand my tax situation better now. My CPA never explained why he was making certain choices, but now I know exactly where my money is going and how different decisions affect my tax liability. I did have my old CPA review my self-prepared return the first year (paid him for an hour of time), and he only found a minor issue that wouldn't have triggered an audit anyway.

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Luca Ferrari

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Did you find any good resources for learning about rental property tax treatment? That's my biggest concern with switching from my CPA.

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NebulaNomad

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The IRS Publication 527 (Residential Rental Property) is actually pretty readable and covers the basics well. I also found the BiggerPockets forums invaluable for specific rental tax questions - there are both CPAs and experienced landlords who can help with real-world situations. For me, the key was learning about depreciation (which is usually the trickiest part) and keeping meticulous records of expenses. I created a simple spreadsheet where I track every expense by category, which makes tax time much easier. Most tax software has decent guidance on rental properties, but I found that learning the basic concepts first made the whole process less intimidating.

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Nia Wilson

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Honestly, if you have a rental property AND a side business, I would NOT recommend doing your own taxes. I tried to save money last year and did my own with TurboTax. Ended up missing some key deductions and had to file an amended return that my friend (who's a CPA) caught. Cost me more in the long run. Maybe try negotiating with your current CPA? Or find a less expensive one? But with rental depreciation and business expenses, there's just too many places to mess up if you don't know what you're doing.

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What kinds of deductions did you miss? I'm curious because I'm in a similar boat and wondering what I might be overlooking.

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Honorah King

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Virginia resident here! Just wanted to add that updating your name with Virginia DMV and tax department can be done separately from your federal tax filing. You'll need to update your name with Social Security first, then DMV, then everything else. For Virginia state taxes, you'll file under whatever name is on your federal return for consistency. The Virginia tax department actually recommends filing under your old name if that's what your W-2 and Social Security records still show, even if you have a court order.

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Oliver Brown

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Do you know if Virginia requires any specific form to be filed with state taxes when you've had a name change? I'm in a similar situation but in North Carolina.

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Honorah King

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Virginia doesn't require any special forms with your state tax return for a name change. As long as you file consistently with your federal return, you're good. They just care that your SSN matches what's in their system. For North Carolina, I'm not certain, but most states follow the same principle - file under whatever name is on your Social Security record, and update your state records after you've updated with the SSA. You might want to check North Carolina's department of revenue website for any state-specific requirements.

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Mary Bates

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Honestly the worst part of changing your name is updating EVERYTHING. I changed mine last year and taxes were the least of my worries lol. Had to update my bank, credit cards, mortgage, car title, insurance, utilities, email addresses, subscriptions, professional licenses... the list goes on forever 😩 The key with taxes is definitely making sure your W-2 name matches your Social Security card name. Otherwise it'll get flagged in the system.

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So true! I'm still finding random accounts in my old name 2 years later. Did you make a checklist? I wish I had been more organized about it.

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