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I would like to inquire about those who completed verification approximately 7-14 days ago, specifically those on cycle 05. Is it reasonable to expect that our transcripts will update with an 846 code (refund issued) soon? Additionally, I'm curious if individuals who verified during a similar timeframe but with different cycle codes have already received their transcript updates. I've been monitoring my transcript daily but hesitate to be overly optimistic about timing.
Hey all! I'm starting a dropshipping business using Printful and Amazon, and I'm completely clueless about the tax side of things. I've got the business part figured out, but taxes? Total mystery. First off, what exactly do I need to register for? I know there's a bunch of tax-related things but I have no idea what they are or how many I need. Any links would be super helpful. Let me explain my situation: - Most of my money gets tied up in Printful for order fulfillment. Basically $0 to spend. - By the end of December 2025, I'll probably make around $400 - First quarter of 2026, maybe $750 - I'm guessing I'll make about $675 each quarter generally - But then the second quarter might crash to like $5 (totally unpredictable!) - Then third quarter could jump to $9,500 - Fourth quarter might be $0 again So total for the year would be about $10,255, but it's super uneven. None of that money gets spent or tied up except for paying the actual taxes. It's basically just sitting there for tax payments each quarter. Since I have no clue how 2025 will actually play out, how do I handle filing Income Tax, Self Employment Tax, and State Tax for the first quarter? What forms do I need? And how do I actually calculate and pay everything when my income is so unpredictable?
One thing nobody mentioned yet - you need to track your inventory carefully even with dropshipping. Even though Printful handles fulfillment, the IRS considers you the seller. I use a simple spreadsheet with: - Date of sale - Product cost (what Printful charges you) - Sale price (what the customer pays) - Platform fees (Amazon's cut) - Shipping costs - Net profit This makes filing Schedule C WAY easier and helps you calculate your true profit for self-employment tax purposes. You don't want to overpay by calculating tax on your gross sales!
What about quarterly payments though? Do you make them even if you're barely profitable in a quarter? My first quarters in dropshipping were super slow.
You technically only need to make quarterly estimated payments if you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes for the year. During your slow quarters, if your profit is minimal, you might not need to make a payment. However, be careful with this approach. If you end up having a hugely profitable quarter later (like that $9,500 quarter you mentioned), you could face underpayment penalties if you haven't been making adequate quarterly payments throughout the year. It's often safer to make at least some payment each quarter, even during slower periods.
One thing to consider is setting up as an LLC and electing S-Corp taxation once you're consistently profitable. I did this with my dropshipping business last year. The main benefit is that you can pay yourself a reasonable salary and take the rest as distributions, which aren't subject to self-employment tax. Saved me about 15% tax on a significant portion of my income. Obviously you'll want to wait until your business is consistently making at least $30-40k profit before this makes sense due to the additional costs of payroll services and state LLC fees.
Definitely wait until your business is consistently profitable. With your projected income of around $10K for the year, the LLC setup costs and S-Corp election paperwork would outweigh any tax savings. Focus on getting your basic tax compliance down first - Schedule C, quarterly payments, and good record keeping. Once you're making $30K+ consistently, then look into LLC/S-Corp structures. For now, staying as a sole proprietor keeps things much simpler while you're learning the ropes.
I worked for a gig app called JobFlex last year where I picked up catering gigs and server/busser shifts at various hotels and restaurants. I made around $36k total for the year. Now I'm doing my taxes and it shows I owe about $7k in federal taxes which is freaking me out. I'm trying to figure out what deductions I can claim since I was 1099. Can I write off my monthly cell phone bill? I literally couldn't book shifts without my phone. What about the Uber rides I took to get to some jobs when public transportation wasn't available? Also, I had to buy specific black pants, shirts, and shoes for these gigs - are those deductible? Some other gig workers told me they deduct all of these things, and one person even mentioned deducting makeup since they have to look presentable. But other friends say I can't write these off. What can I legitimately claim as business expenses on my 1099 income? I'm desperate to reduce what I owe!
You might also want to look into setting up a SEP IRA or Solo 401(k) for retirement. As a 1099 contractor, you're eligible for these self-employed retirement accounts which let you put away WAY more than regular IRAs. This won't help with last year's taxes, but could significantly reduce your tax bill going forward. With a Solo 401(k), you can contribute up to $22,500 as an "employee" for 2023 PLUS an additional 25% of your net self-employment earnings as the "employer" (up to combined limits). These contributions are tax-deductible and reduce your taxable income.
Is it worth setting this up if I only made like $36k from gig work? Seems complicated for a small amount.
Actually, yes! Even at $36k, a Solo 401(k) could be worth it. You could potentially contribute around $9,000 (25% of net earnings after self-employment tax adjustments) which would save you roughly $1,000-2,000 in taxes depending on your bracket. The setup isn't that complicated - many brokerages like Fidelity, Schwab, or Vanguard offer them with minimal paperwork. You have until your tax filing deadline (including extensions) to set it up and make contributions for the previous tax year. So you could still potentially reduce your 2023 tax bill if you act quickly! Just make sure you have enough cash flow since retirement contributions tie up your money until age 59.5 (with some exceptions).
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is keeping a mileage log if you drove your own car for any gigs. Even if you took Uber most of the time, any personal vehicle use for work can be deducted at the standard mileage rate (65.5 cents per mile for 2023). Also, don't forget about smaller expenses that add up - things like phone chargers, portable batteries, or even hand sanitizer if it was required for your gigs. These might seem minor but they're legitimate business expenses if purchased specifically for work. Since you owe $7k, you might want to look into making quarterly estimated tax payments for this year to avoid owing a big chunk again. The IRS expects self-employed folks to pay as they go rather than all at once in April. You can set up payments through EFTPS or pay online to avoid penalties next year.
This is really helpful advice! I'm new to gig work and had no idea about quarterly payments. How do I figure out how much to pay quarterly? Is it just my expected tax bill divided by 4, or is there a specific calculation? Also, when are the quarterly deadlines? I definitely don't want to get hit with penalties on top of already owing so much.
Great question! For quarterly estimated taxes, you generally want to pay either 100% of last year's tax liability or 90% of this year's expected tax liability, whichever is smaller. Since you're new to gig work, you might not have much prior year tax to base it on, so focus on estimating this year. A rough calculation: Take your expected annual gig income, subtract estimated business expenses, multiply by your tax rate (including self-employment tax of about 15.3%), then divide by 4. The IRS has Form 1040ES with worksheets to help calculate this more precisely. The quarterly due dates for 2024 are: Q1 (Jan-Mar) due April 15, Q2 (Apr-May) due June 17, Q3 (Jun-Aug) due September 16, and Q4 (Sep-Dec) due January 15, 2025. You can pay online at irs.gov/payments or through the EFTPS system. Even if you miss a quarter, it's better to start paying the remaining quarters than to wait until next April!
I'm really confused and slightly concerned about a random deposit that showed up in my checking account yesterday. The description just says "DEPOSIT TCS TREAS 449" and there's no other information. I wasn't expecting any money from the government that I know of. I did file my taxes back in February and got my regular refund already in March. Could this be some kind of additional refund? The amount is $837.42 which doesn't match anything I can think of. I'm hesitant to spend it in case it's a mistake and they want it back. Has anyone else received something like this? Should I call the IRS or is there a way to check what this payment is for? I tried looking up "TCS TREAS 449" online but didn't find much clear information.
I completely understand your confusion and concern about this unexpected deposit! Based on all the helpful experiences shared in this thread, it's clear that "TCS TREAS 449" deposits are actually quite common and almost always legitimate. As a tax professional, I can confirm that this code is specifically used by the Treasury Department for official tax refunds and credit adjustments. Given that you filed in February and already received your regular refund, this is most likely the result of an automated review where the IRS recalculated one of your credits and found you were entitled to more money. The most commonly adjusted credits include the Child Tax Credit, American Opportunity Tax Credit, Earned Income Credit, and Premium Tax Credit. The amount of $837.42 seems very reasonable for this type of adjustment. My recommendation would be to log into your IRS online account at irs.gov first - this will give you immediate answers about what triggered the adjustment. You can view your account transcript there which will show exactly what the payment represents. This is much faster than calling the IRS or waiting for an explanation letter to arrive. While it's always prudent to verify before spending unexpected money, you can feel confident that Treasury 449 deposits are legitimate. The IRS has been conducting systematic reviews of returns and frequently finds that taxpayers didn't claim all the credits they were entitled to. You should receive a CP notice in the mail within 1-3 weeks explaining the adjustment, but checking online will give you peace of mind right away. Don't stress about this - it sounds like the IRS found additional money you were rightfully owed, which is actually great news!
I completely understand your confusion about this unexpected deposit! As a newcomer to this community, I can see from all the helpful responses that "TCS TREAS 449" deposits are actually quite common and usually good news. Based on everyone's experiences shared here, this code is specifically used by the Treasury Department for legitimate tax refunds and credit adjustments. Since you filed in February and already got your regular refund, this is most likely the result of an IRS review where they found you qualified for additional credits you didn't fully claim. The amount of $837.42 seems very reasonable for a credit adjustment. Common ones include the Child Tax Credit, American Opportunity Credit, or Earned Income Credit - all of which the IRS frequently recalculates after processing returns. My suggestion would be to check your IRS online account first at irs.gov - you can view your account transcript there which will show exactly what this payment is for. This is much faster than calling or waiting for a letter. Based on all the positive experiences shared here, you can probably stop worrying and feel confident this is legitimate money you're entitled to keep! The IRS has been doing lots of these systematic reviews lately and often finds people didn't claim everything they were owed. It's actually nice when they find extra money for us instead of the other way around!
I'm planning to order a bunch of hats in bulk for my website, and I'm confused about the tax situation when I use them in different ways: Scenario 1: Customer buys a hat directly for $30 Scenario 2: Customer spends $75 on other products and gets a hat as a free gift Scenario 3: We give away hats at promotional events where no purchase is required My supplier gives me a much better rate when I order all the hats together, so separating the order into different batches isn't really practical. Should I be purchasing all these hats tax-exempt since some will be promotional items? Or should I just pay the sales tax upfront on the whole order? And then how do I handle charging or paying the tax correctly in each of these different scenarios? Any advice would be super appreciated! I'm in the US and this is my first time dealing with promotional item tax issues.
Forgetting all the tax stuff for a sec... curious what website platform you're using to sell hats? I'm trying to start something similar but can't decide between Shopify and WooCommerce. Any recommendations?
This is such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who just went through setting up tax handling for my small business, I wanted to add one more perspective that might help. Consider reaching out to your state's Small Business Development Center (SBDC) - they often have free consultations specifically for tax questions like this. I met with one of their advisors and they walked me through exactly how to handle promotional items in my state, plus they gave me templates for tracking different types of transactions. The advisor also mentioned that some states are getting stricter about use tax enforcement, especially for online businesses, so it's definitely worth getting this right from the start. They emphasized keeping detailed records of promotional giveaways since those are often the transactions that get scrutinized during audits. For what it's worth, I ended up going with the approach Anna mentioned - buy everything tax-exempt with my resale certificate, then self-assess use tax on promotional items. It's been working well and my accountant approved the process when I had my books reviewed. Good luck with your hat business! The tax stuff seems overwhelming at first but once you get a system in place it becomes routine.
Ravi Malhotra
I'm also cycle 05 and verified about 10 days ago through ID.me. Reading through everyone's experiences here, it seems like the timing really varies even within the same cycle. What's been helpful for me is checking my transcript early Friday mornings since that's when cycle 05 typically updates. I've noticed that some people are getting their 846 codes faster this year compared to 2023, but like Mateo mentioned, I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much. Has anyone else noticed if the method of verification (phone vs ID.me) actually makes a difference in processing speed? The IRS agent I spoke with wasn't clear on that detail.
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QuantumQuester
From what I've observed in this community and others, the verification method doesn't seem to make a significant difference in processing speed - both ID.me and phone verification typically follow similar timelines once completed. However, @Ravi Malhotra, you're smart to check Friday mornings for cycle 05 updates! I verified through phone about 8 days ago (also cycle 05) and haven't seen my 846 code yet either. What I find interesting is that @Ethan Taylor mentioned getting his code in exactly 12 days - that gives me hope we re'in that sweet spot window. The key thing I ve'learned from reading everyone s'experiences is that even within cycle 05, individual circumstances like credits, amended returns, or other transcript codes can still affect timing. But you re'right that this year does seem faster overall compared to the horror stories from 2023!
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Lucas Notre-Dame
I'm cycle 05 and verified through ID.me exactly 9 days ago. Still refreshing my transcript every morning like it's my job! ๐ What I've found helpful is tracking the actual update days - @Aisha Khan's highway analogy really resonates with me. I've been keeping a simple log of when other cycle 05 folks get their 846 codes to see if there's a real pattern. So far, I'm seeing most people get theirs between days 10-16 after verification, with Thursdays/Fridays being the most common update days. @Ethan Taylor's 12-day timeline gives me hope since I'm almost there! Has anyone else noticed if having direct deposit vs. paper check affects when the 846 code appears? I know it doesn't change the actual refund timing, but curious if it impacts transcript updates.
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