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My crazy tax day story happened when I was living in Chicago. It was pouring rain on April 15th, I had my completed return but my printer broke. Ran to the library which closed early that day, then to a FedEx which had a line out the door. Finally printed at some random hotel business center by begging the front desk person. Then realized I forgot my checkbook for the payment. Had to run 8 blocks home in the rain, grab the checkbook, then catch the last collection at the post office. Made it with 3 minutes to spare, soaking wet with a partially smudged return! Never again waited until the last day.
Couldn't you have just e-filed? Seems like it would have saved you a lot of trouble and rain lol
This was back in 2009 when e-filing wasn't as common or user-friendly as it is today. I was also filing some complicated forms related to foreign income that the e-file systems back then couldn't handle properly. Since that rainy disaster, I've become a huge advocate for filing electronically and doing it at least a month before deadline. Now I e-file in February or March and avoid the stress completely. Best decision ever!
Anybody else notice how the IRS website always crashes on tax day? Last year I waited until the final hours (my fault I know) and the payment system was completely down. Called my accountant panicking and she said "just mail a check tomorrow and you'll probably be fine." I was convinced I'd get hit with penalties but she was right, nothing happened. Tax system is held together with duct tape and prayers.
Just wondering - have you considered using a professional tax preparer who specializes in self-employed taxes? I was in a similar boat last year and paid a CPA who works with gig workers. Cost me about $250 but was totally worth it for the peace of mind. They helped me organize my documentation and told me exactly what I needed to keep for the future. They also told me that most Schedule C audits happen because of wildly inappropriate deductions, not because your income happened to maximize the EIC. As long as your deductions are reasonable and you have some form of records, you're probably fine.
I thought about that but was trying to save money since my income is already pretty tight. Do you think it's worth the cost even if my situation isn't super complicated? Did they find any deductions you missed or was it just for the reassurance?
Yes, I think it's worth the cost even for a relatively straightforward situation, especially in your first year or two of self-employment. The CPA actually found several deductions I had missed - part of my phone bill, a portion of my internet, some office supplies I'd forgotten about. These additional deductions saved me around $400 in taxes, so the service more than paid for itself. The peace of mind was the biggest value though. Having a professional review everything and say "this looks correct" eliminated so much anxiety. They also gave me a simple system for tracking everything this year, which has made the whole process much easier. If money is tight, you might look into VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) which offers free tax help for people who make under $60,000.
One thing to consider is to double check your actual EIC calculation. The maximum EIC benefit varies based on your filing status and number of qualifying children. For 2024 taxes (2025 filing season), the maximum EIC is around $7,430 with three or more qualifying children, $6,604 with two children, $3,995 with one child, and $600 with no children. The income sweet spot for maximum EIC is roughly between $14,800 and $21,560 depending on your filing status and number of dependents. So your income might naturally fall in that range without any manipulation.
This is a good point. The IRS isn't suspicious of people who happen to be in the EIC range - they're looking for people who make up fake income or dependents. Lots of legitimate self-employed people naturally fall into this income range.
Definitely don't use a CPA with an expired license! My husband and I made that mistake last year and got audited because of improper deductions they claimed. It's been a 9-month nightmare trying to fix everything. When we confronted them about their license, they gave excuses about "being in the renewal process" - turns out they had been practicing without a license for 3 YEARS. Complete disaster. Make sure to get references from people who've worked with them for multiple years, not just someone who had a good first impression. And as someone else mentioned, ask specifically about their experience with your situation (marriage, investments, whatever makes your taxes complex).
Yikes, I'm so sorry you went through that! Thanks for the warning - this is exactly the kind of situation I'm trying to avoid. I'm definitely going to verify active licensure before moving forward. Did you end up finding a legitimate CPA after that experience?
Yes, we eventually found a great CPA through my coworker who's been using him for years. The difference was night and day - our new CPA provided all his credentials upfront without being asked and even showed us his professional liability insurance certificate. One tip: when we interviewed him, he asked US detailed questions about our situation rather than making generic promises about maximizing refunds. That level of detailed interest was a good sign he actually knew what he was doing. He also explained exactly why the previous deductions were improper and helped us file amendments. Good luck with your search!
Honestly the state databases are sometimes very slow to update. My CPA's license showed as "pending renewal" for like 3 months after she'd actually completed everything. Before panicking, maybe just call or email them and ask about it directly? A good professional will understand your concern and provide proof of current licensure. They might even have a paper certificate or email confirmation they can share while the database catches up.
This is a really good point. Government websites are notoriously outdated sometimes. I'd definitely ask them about it - their response will tell you a lot about how they handle client concerns.
Another thing to consider - make sure you get everything in writing! Even after you pay what they say you owe now and even if you get a stipulated decision, keep ALL documentation from this entire process. I had a similar situation where the IRS agreed with my response to a CP2000, but then two years later, I got a notice about the same issue again because different departments weren't communicating. Having all my previous correspondence, including the written acceptance of my explanation, saved me from having to fight the same battle twice. Also, make sure you send your payment with a clear memo/note referencing your specific case number from the CP2000. This helps ensure it gets applied to the correct tax year and issue.
That's a really good point about keeping all the documentation. Should I also be sending the payment by certified mail or some other trackable method? And do I need to include a copy of the latest CP2000 with my payment?
Absolutely send your payment via certified mail with return receipt requested. That gives you proof of exactly when you sent it and when they received it. I would recommend including a copy of the payment voucher from the CP2000 (not the entire notice), along with a brief letter stating that this payment is for the agreed amount on your CP2000 dated [specific date] for tax year 2019. Include your Social Security number, the notice number, and any other reference numbers on the CP2000. Better to include too much identifying information than not enough.
Has anyone else noticed how often the left hand of the IRS doesn't know what the right hand is doing? Last year I had THREE different departments giving me THREE different answers about the exact same issue. One suggestion I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you can afford it, it might be worth getting a brief consultation with a tax attorney who specializes in Tax Court cases. They might only charge you for 30 minutes and could give you specific advice for your situation. Sometimes spending $150 on a consultation can save you thousands in headaches later.
Totally agree about the IRS departments not communicating. I work at an accounting firm and we see this constantly. The examination department will agree to one thing while the collections department is still pursuing the original amount. For the OP, you might check if your local Low Income Taxpayer Clinic (LITC) can help. If you qualify based on income, they provide free representation.
Nalani Liu
Another thing to consider - if you're having financial difficulties, you can actually elect to report the entire CARES Act distribution in the first year rather than spreading it over three years. This might be beneficial if you had a particularly low income in 2020 compared to later years. You'd pay all the tax at once, but potentially at a lower rate.
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Axel Bourke
ā¢Can you still make that election now? Or was that something that had to be done on the 2020 return?
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Nalani Liu
ā¢Unfortunately, the election to report the full amount in the first year had to be made on your original 2020 tax return. Since you already reported only 1/3 of the distribution as taxable in 2020, you're now locked into the three-year reporting method. The only way to change this would be to file an amended 2020 return (Form 1040-X), but that has risks and costs that likely outweigh any potential benefits at this point. You'd pay interest and possibly penalties on any additional tax from reporting the full amount in 2020, plus you'd draw additional scrutiny to your return.
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Aidan Percy
Has anyone dealt with repaying a CARES Act withdrawal? I took money out in 2020 but now I'm in a better position and wondering if I should put it back to avoid the taxes for 2021 and 2022.
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Fernanda Marquez
ā¢You can repay a CARES Act distribution within 3 years of the date you received it to avoid taxes on the repaid amount. So if you took it out in July 2020, you have until July 2023 to put it back. You'll need to file amended returns to get back any taxes you already paid on the portions reported in 2020 and 2021.
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