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Don't forget about the state extension too! In many states, the federal extension automatically extends your state filing deadline too, but some states require a separate extension form. Google "[your state] tax extension" to make sure you're covering both bases.
California automatically grants you the same extension as federal (6 months) without requiring a separate form - but ONLY if you don't owe additional tax. If you do owe CA tax, you need to file Form FTB 3519 and make a payment by the original due date to avoid penalties. New York also gives an automatic extension matching the federal timeframe. Texas doesn't have state income tax so no worries there. Most states follow federal extensions but there are definitely exceptions, so always double-check your specific state's requirements.
I know most people are saying use the IRS Free File for extensions, but honestly just go through TaxAct or TaxSlayer. They let you file extensions completely free without income restrictions and their interface is wayyy more user friendly than the IRS direct option.
Quick warning: if your employer paid you as a 1099 contractor instead of a W-2 employee (which some shady companies do), you might be waiting for a W-2 that was never created. Check your last paystub to see if they were withholding taxes. If not, you might need to look for a 1099-NEC instead of a W-2. This happened to my wife and she wasted weeks trying to get a W-2 before realizing they had misclassified her as an independent contractor.
Thanks for bringing this up! I checked my paystubs and they definitely show federal and state tax withholding, so I should be getting a W-2. They were taking out Social Security and Medicare too. I'm thinking maybe they just don't have my current address since I moved shortly after leaving? But still, they should've responded to my emails asking about it. So frustrating.
That's good you confirmed they were withholding taxes! In that case, they're definitely required to provide a W-2. The address issue could definitely be part of the problem - sometimes companies just mail them to the last address they have on file. You might want to check if your former employer used a third-party payroll service like ADP, Paychex, or Gusto. If they did, you might be able to create an account directly with that service and access your W-2 electronically. Many of my past employers used these services, and I could get my tax forms even years later by logging into those platforms.
Has anyone tried going to the physical location of their former employer? I had a similar situation last year and after all electronic communication failed, I just showed up at the office and refused to leave until someone helped me. Miraculously, they "found" my W-2 within 15 minutes.
This actually works surprisingly well! When my husband's former employer was ignoring his requests, he physically went to their HR office. Amazing how quickly they produced his W-2 when he was standing right in front of them. Sometimes the old-school direct approach is still the most effective.
About those payment lines specifically - here's what each one typically means on an IRS balance due notice: 1. Assessed Tax: The total tax you owe based on your return and any adjustments 2. Penalties: Can include failure-to-file, failure-to-pay, underpayment, or accuracy penalties 3. Interest: Compounds daily on unpaid amounts starting from the original due date 4. Payments: Any payments you've made toward this tax debt 5. Credits: Any credits applied to your account (like overpayments from other years) 6. Remaining Balance: The total amount you currently owe If the math seems off, it's usually because of how they calculate and compound the interest, or because they've made an adjustment to your original return amount.
Do you know if interest is calculated on the penalties too or just on the original tax amount? This feels like such a scam if they're charging interest on penalties...
Yes, unfortunately, the IRS charges interest on both the unpaid tax amount AND on the penalties. So you're paying interest on your interest, essentially. They calculate interest daily using the federal short-term rate plus 3 percentage points, and it compounds daily. This is why tax debts can grow so quickly if left unpaid. If you're seeing a higher balance than expected, this compounding effect is often the culprit.
Has anyone actually successfully disputed these payment line charges? My balance due statement shows penalties that seem really unfair since I filed on time but had a bank error that made my payment late.
I successfully got a failure-to-pay penalty removed last year using something called First Time Abatement. If you've had a clean record for the past 3 years (filed and paid on time), you can usually get penalties waived once as a courtesy. Just call and specifically ask for "First Time Penalty Abatement." They don't advertise this but it's a real thing!
Don't overlook state taxes and fees in your decision! I went with a C Corp for my investing activities and got hit with $1,200 annual franchise tax in California, plus extra compliance costs. The federal tax benefits got eaten up by state-level expenses. Also, if your investing activity isn't regular enough to be considered a "trade or business," you might face the Personal Holding Company tax as a C Corp, which is another 20% on undistributed investment income. My accountant missed this until we got flagged by the IRS. The LLC probably makes more sense unless you're doing very high-volume trading that clearly qualifies as a business rather than investment activity.
Can you explain more about this Personal Holding Company tax? I've never heard of this and I'm currently using a Wyoming C Corp for my investments. Is this something that applies to all investment income in a corporation?
The Personal Holding Company (PHC) tax applies when a closely held C corporation (few shareholders) has at least 60% of its adjusted ordinary gross income coming from "passive" sources like dividends, interest, royalties, and certain rents. If the corporation doesn't distribute this income to shareholders, it can get hit with an additional 20% tax on the undistributed income. It doesn't apply to all investment income - capital gains from selling stocks aren't PHC income. But interest and dividends are. If you're trading frequently enough to qualify as a "trader" rather than an "investor" in IRS eyes, you might avoid this. But occasional traders often get caught by these rules. Wyoming has no state income tax which is good, but the federal PHC tax would still apply if you meet the criteria.
Curious if anyone's considered the Qualified Small Business Stock (QSBS) exclusion with a C Corp structure? If you start a new C Corp for investing, hold the stock for 5+ years, and it qualifies under Section 1202, you could potentially exclude up to 100% of capital gains up to $10 million or 10x your basis. The tricky part is meeting the "active business" requirement since passive investments don't qualify. But if you're actively trading/investing as a business, it might work? Any tax pros here know if a trading business can qualify?
Unfortunately, the QSBS exclusion specifically excludes businesses where the principal asset is the reputation/skill of employees, and businesses in finance, investing, or similar fields. A C Corp whose primary activity is trading or investing wouldn't qualify for the QSBS exclusion. The QSBS benefit is aimed at operating businesses in qualified sectors like manufacturing or technology, not investment vehicles. There are some creative structures where a portion of activities might qualify, but it's complex and would require very specific planning with a qualified tax attorney.
Thanks for clearing that up! I wondered if there was a way to make it work, but sounds like it's not viable for investment activities. Back to comparing the standard LLC vs C Corp options then. Appreciate the expert insight!
StarStrider
Just wanted to add - if someone has unusually high income without a clear source (like in your movie example), the IRS has a specific division that looks for these discrepancies. It's called the Wealth Squad - officially the Global High Wealth Industry Group. They specifically target high-income individuals with complex financial situations. Also, banks are required to file Suspicious Activity Reports for unusual transactions, and anyone depositing more than $10k in cash triggers a Currency Transaction Report. So someone regularly making large cash deposits without a legitimate business would definitely get flagged.
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Anastasia Popova
ā¢This is super informative! I had no idea about the "Wealth Squad" - is this something regular people with side businesses need to worry about? Or is it more for super wealthy individuals? Like what's the threshold where they start getting interested?
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StarStrider
ā¢The Wealth Squad typically focuses on individuals with income or assets over $10 million, so most regular people with side businesses wouldn't be on their radar specifically. However, anyone with unusual income patterns can still trigger standard IRS compliance flags. For more typical side businesses, it's the regular IRS examination divisions that might notice discrepancies. The important thing is maintaining good records that show the source of your income and legitimate business expenses. Unexplained deposits or lifestyle expenses that don't match reported income are what typically trigger closer examination, regardless of income level.
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Yuki Sato
For the character in the movie, they'd probably be using shell companies and money laundering tbh. Movie characters always seem to have these elaborate financial setups that wouldn't work irl. In reality, the IRS would ABSOLUTELY notice someone with multiple properties and luxury spending with no visible income source. My cousin tried not reporting some side income from online sales thinking it was "too small to matter" and ended up with a $8k penalty. And that was just for like $30k in unreported income!
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Carmen Ruiz
ā¢True about shell companies! I work in banking and you wouldn't believe how sophisticated some fraud schemes are. But even with elaborate setups, people eventually slip up. Either they can't resist flaunting wealth or they make a reporting mistake. That's usually how they get caught.
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