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I went through a similar situation last year. For 2021-2023, most current software works fine, but for 2017-2020, I had to get creative. I ended up using a combination of approaches: - For 2021-2023: Used current version of FreeTaxUSA (their premium version handles Schedule C well) - For 2018-2020: Found prior year versions of TaxAct Business - For 2017: Had to use an accountant since it was so old One tip: before you start, download all your bank statements for those years and create a simple spreadsheet to track income and expenses by category for each year. Makes the actual tax prep go much faster.
How much did TaxAct charge for each prior year? And did you have any issues with the 2017 filing from the accountant?
TaxAct charged around $60-70 per year for their business editions when I used them, though prices may have changed. I found it reasonable considering the alternatives. For the 2017 return, the accountant charged me $350, which was actually less than I expected. There weren't any issues with the filing itself, but they discovered I had been calculating depreciation incorrectly on some equipment, which affected the subsequent years. This meant I had to make some adjustments to my 2018-2020 returns as well. If you have depreciating assets, make sure you're tracking them consistently across all tax years - that's something the software won't necessarily flag for you.
Quick question - has anyone tried UltraTax for old business returns? My friend recommended it but it seems expensive.
One "loophole" that's actually legitimate is setting up a Solo 401k with mega backdoor Roth capabilities. I contribute $22,500 as employee deferral, then my S corp contributes up to 25% of my salary as employer contribution, AND I can make after-tax contributions that immediately convert to Roth. Totally legit strategy that lets me put away over $60k/year in tax-advantaged accounts. Also, don't overlook that you can potentially deduct 20% of your qualified business income through the QBI deduction, though phase-outs start at higher income levels.
Can you explain more about the mega backdoor Roth through an S corp? My accountant mentioned this but didn't explain how it actually works with the S corp structure specifically.
Sure thing. The key is setting up your Solo 401k plan with the right provisions. Your plan needs to specifically allow for both after-tax contributions (beyond the normal $22,500 employee limit) and in-plan Roth conversions. With an S corp, you wear two hats - employee and employer. As employee, you contribute up to the standard limit ($22,500 for 2023, plus catch-up if over 50). As employer, your S corp can contribute up to 25% of your W-2 wages. Then, if your plan allows it, you can make additional after-tax contributions up to the total annual limit ($66,000 for 2023 combining all sources), then immediately convert those after-tax dollars to Roth. This gives you way more Roth conversion potential than just the standard backdoor Roth IRA.
Don't forget about the home office deduction! I write off 22% of my home expenses (based on square footage) including utilities, internet, mortgage interest, property taxes, and even depreciation. You do need a space used "regularly and exclusively" for business, but if you have that, it's totally legit and can save thousands. My S corp also pays for my cell phone (I document business use at 80%), internet (70% business), and even streaming services I use for research. The key is proper documentation - keep a log of business use percentage.
One important thing to remember with ESPP disqualifying dispositions: the taxable benefit (discount) is reported as ordinary income, not capital gains. I made this mistake my first time and had to file an amended return. When you receive the shares, your company should include the discount amount (difference between what you paid and fair market value) as part of your W-2 income. When you subsequently sell the shares, you only report the difference between your sale price and the fair market value on the purchase date as capital gains. Make sure your cost basis in FreeTaxUSA reflects the fair market value on purchase date, not what you actually paid. The difference has already been taxed as ordinary income.
Wait, I'm confused. The previous comments said to use (what I paid + the discount) as my cost basis. But you're saying to use just the fair market value on purchase date. Aren't those the same thing? Or am I missing something?
You're right to be confused - I didn't explain that clearly. Let me clarify: The fair market value (FMV) on purchase date and (what you paid + discount) should mathematically be the same number. For example, if the FMV was $100 per share, and you got a 15% discount, you paid $85 per share. Your cost basis should be $100 ($85 you paid + $15 discount that's already included in your W-2). Both methods get you to the same place - I just find it easier to think of it as using the FMV as basis since that's usually clearly stated on the supplemental tax form from employers. The key is making sure you're not double-taxed on the discount amount.
Has anyone used the "Gain/Loss import" feature in FreeTaxUSA for ESPPs? I have about 25 lots I sold last year and manually entering each one would be torture.
I tried that feature but it doesn't handle ESPP adjustments correctly. It imports the basis exactly as reported on the 1099-B, which for ESPPs is usually wrong since it doesn't account for the discount reported on your W-2. I ended up having to manually adjust each one anyway.
20 As a fellow Texan, I wanted to add that you should look into state-specific requirements. Texas doesn't have a state income tax, but if you plan to work with clients who have income in other states, you'll need to understand those state tax systems too. Also, most people don't realize that even with all the courses, nothing prepares you for tax preparation like actual practice. Consider volunteering with VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) for a season. It's a great way to get hands-on experience with supervision before striking out on your own.
7 Does VITA actually help with learning business tax prep though? I thought they only do basic 1040s and don't handle Schedule C filers?
20 You're right that VITA primarily focuses on basic returns, though some sites do handle simple Schedule C returns with limitations on income amounts and deductions. It won't give you comprehensive business tax experience, but it does provide excellent training in the fundamentals and client interaction skills. For business tax experience specifically, you might consider trying to work part-time at a local CPA firm during tax season. Many firms hire seasonal preparers and will train you on their procedures. Another option is finding a mentor through your local chapter of the National Association of Tax Professionals (NATP) or the Texas Society of Enrolled Agents.
6 Anyone have thoughts on the pricing structure for a new tax preparer? I'm also starting out and not sure if I should charge by form, by hour, or flat fees based on return complexity.
13 I started out charging by form and it was a DISASTER. Clients hated the uncertainty and I had to have awkward conversations when additional forms were needed. Now I do tiered flat fees based on return complexity (basic W-2 only, itemized deductions, Schedule C, etc) and both me and my clients are much happier.
Benjamin Kim
Don't forget you might need to pay state taxes on that unreported income too! The IRS typically shares this information with your state tax authority, so you might get a similar notice from them in a few months.
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Samantha Howard
ā¢This is a really good point. My brother ignored the state notice after resolving the federal one and ended up with state penalties that were worse than the federal ones.
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Megan D'Acosta
Make sure you respond by the deadline even if you don't have all your documentation yet! You can send a partial response explaining that additional documentation is coming. If you miss the deadline without any response, they may assess the full tax amount automatically. I had a CP2000 for unreported stock sales last year, and the key was keeping communication open with the IRS. They're actually pretty reasonable if you're responsive and can explain your situation.
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Lucy Lam
ā¢That's really helpful, thanks! If I tell them I'm waiting on more documentation, do you know approximately how much extra time they typically give?
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Megan D'Acosta
ā¢In my experience, they usually give an additional 30 days if you ask for an extension and explain why. Be very specific about what documents you're waiting for and when you expect to receive them. I included a line in my response letter that said "I am awaiting final documentation from XYZ Casino which they have confirmed will be sent by [specific date]. I respectfully request an extension until [date + 1 week] to provide this final documentation." They approved my extension request without any issues. The key is being specific rather than vague about what you're waiting for and when it will arrive.
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