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Lucas Adams

Extended my taxes in April but can't finish by October 15 deadline - what's my best option to avoid tax trouble?

So I'm in a bit of a predicament and could use some advice. Back in April, I filed a personal extension for my 2023 taxes, but here I am with the October 15 deadline staring me in the face, and I just don't have the bandwidth to get everything done in time. My situation got way more complicated last year. My small business that I started in 2022 really took off in 2023, plus I had some real estate transactions including a 1031 exchange that I honestly don't fully understand how to report properly. I've been running at max capacity just keeping the business afloat. Last year I managed to file by the October deadline, but afterward realized I should have hired a CPA to review everything. I kept telling myself I'd find someone to handle my personal taxes this year, but kept pushing it off (totally my fault). The business taxes are fine - we have a separate CPA for that. And I actually have the money to pay whatever I owe personally - that's not the issue. I just literally cannot figure out what I owe by tomorrow's deadline given all the complexity. What should I do right now to minimize penalties and keep myself out of trouble with the IRS? And yes, I DEFINITELY will be getting a personal CPA after this mess is sorted out. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Harper Hill

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The most important thing you can do right now is file another extension request with a payment. While October 15 is generally the final deadline, you can request an additional extension in certain circumstances like living abroad or serving in a combat zone. However, this sounds like it doesn't apply to you. What you should do immediately is estimate what you think you'll owe based on last year's return plus any additional income you're aware of. Then make a payment for that estimated amount using IRS Direct Pay or EFTPS. This won't extend your filing deadline, but it will minimize any failure-to-pay penalties and interest. After the deadline passes, file your complete return as soon as possible. The penalty for filing late is much larger than the penalty for paying late (5% of unpaid taxes per month vs. 0.5% per month), so getting your return in quickly is crucial even if it's already late.

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Caden Nguyen

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But what if they really have no idea what they might owe? Like, if the real estate stuff and business income is totally different from last year, how would they even come up with an estimate? Would it be better to just file something incomplete now and amend later?

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Harper Hill

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Making an educated guess is still better than doing nothing. They can look at their total income from all sources and estimate taxes based on their tax bracket. For the real estate transactions, they should at least know the sale amounts, even if they don't know all the tax implications yet. Filing an incomplete return is generally not recommended. The IRS expects accurate information, and submitting known inaccuracies could potentially lead to more issues. It's better to pay what you estimate now, file late with complete information, and accept the late filing penalty which would be applied to any remaining unpaid balance.

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Avery Flores

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Wait, so does this actually help you file your taxes or just organize your paperwork? I'm in a similar situation and have like a hundred 1099s from different gig work plus some crypto stuff and I'm totally lost.

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Ashley Adams

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Avery Flores

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Aaron Lee

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How does this actually work? Can't you just call the IRS directly? Why would I need another service just to make a phone call?

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Michael Adams

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Quick practical advice that helped me when I missed the extended deadline last year: 1. Pay as much as you can estimate RIGHT NOW through IRS Direct Pay (google it) 2. Get your documents organized ASAP even if you can't complete the return 3. File within 60 days of the missed deadline if at all possible - penalties increase substantially after that 4. If you have a clean payment history for the last 3 years, request "First Time Penalty Abatement" when you do file 5. Include a letter explaining your situation with your late return The 3-year clean compliance history was key for me - got nearly all penalties removed with a simple phone call after filing late by about 3 weeks.

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Lucas Adams

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Thank you for this practical advice! Quick question - for the payment estimate, would you recommend just using last year's total tax amount as a starting point? And for the first-time penalty abatement, is that something I request when I file or after I receive a penalty notice?

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Michael Adams

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Last year's total tax is definitely a good starting point. If you know your income increased, add 25-30% to be safe. It's always better to slightly overpay and get a refund than underpay and face more penalties. For First Time Penalty Abatement, you can request it either way. Some tax pros recommend waiting for the penalty notice before requesting abatement, but I found it helpful to include a letter with my late return specifically requesting it based on my clean compliance history. I used IRS guidance from their website about FTA requirements and referenced it in my letter. You can also call after filing to request it, but having it documented in writing from the start worked well in my case.

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Natalie Wang

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Something important no one mentioned - if you're truly self-employed, don't forget about your quarterly estimated tax payments! Even while sorting out last year's taxes, make sure you're making estimated payments for 2024 if you haven't been. The Oct 15 deadline happens to fall very close to the Q3 estimated payment deadline (Sep 16 this year). Missing estimated payments creates a whole separate penalty issue (underpayment penalty) that exists regardless of extensions. Even if you get filing penalties abated, underpayment penalties for missing quarterlies typically won't be forgiven.

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Noah Torres

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This! I learned this lesson the hard way. Got all my filing extension stuff sorted only to get hit with a separate underpayment penalty for not making proper quarterly estimated payments. It was like solving one problem just to discover another one.

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