IRS claims I owe $140,000 - Need a CPA, Tax Attorney, or both for help?
So I just received a scary letter from the IRS saying I owe them approximately $140,000 in back taxes, penalties and interest from my small business I ran between 2020-2023. I'm completely freaking out right now. This came out of nowhere! The letter mentions something about underreported income and disallowed business expenses for those tax years. They're saying I didn't properly document some major equipment purchases and that I had cash transactions I didn't report. There's also something about self-employment taxes I supposedly didn't pay correctly. I honestly did my taxes myself using TurboTax because I thought my situation was straightforward enough. I kept receipts for most things but I admit my bookkeeping wasn't perfect. Now I'm terrified and don't know where to turn. Should I hire a CPA to go through all my records? Or do I need a tax attorney at this point since the amount is so large? Or both? I've never dealt with anything like this before and I don't have anywhere near that kind of money to pay the IRS right now. I'm losing sleep over this and need guidance ASAP!
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Ethan Brown
This is definitely a situation where you need professional help. The distinction between when to use a CPA vs a tax attorney is pretty important here. A CPA would be helpful for reviewing your financial records, identifying documentation to support your claimed deductions, and potentially preparing an amended return if errors are found. They can also help organize your records to present the strongest case. A tax attorney becomes necessary when you're dealing with significant liabilities and potential legal implications. Given the amount ($140k), I'd recommend a tax attorney who specializes in IRS controversies. They can represent you before the IRS, negotiate settlements, and provide legal protection. They understand tax law nuances that even experienced CPAs might not. In your situation, I'd actually suggest both - start with a consultation with a tax attorney who can assess your case and recommend next steps. They might work with a CPA on their team, or suggest one they trust. Many tax resolution firms have both professionals on staff.
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Yuki Yamamoto
•Is there a significant cost difference between hiring a CPA versus a tax attorney? And would you recommend getting representation before responding to the IRS at all?
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Ethan Brown
•Yes, there is typically a cost difference. CPAs generally charge between $150-400 per hour depending on experience and location, while tax attorneys often charge $300-600+ per hour. Some offer flat-fee arrangements for specific services though. I absolutely recommend getting representation before responding to the IRS. The initial response can significantly impact the direction of your case. A professional can help ensure you don't inadvertently say something that hurts your position or extends the statute of limitations for assessment.
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Carmen Ortiz
After reading your post, I was in almost the exact same situation last year. I got hit with a $95k tax bill for my consulting business and was completely panicking. I tried handling it myself at first and just made things worse by missing deadlines and not understanding what documentation they needed. What saved me was using https://taxr.ai to analyze all my documents and past returns. Their AI system flagged several issues in how I'd been categorizing business expenses and found documentation I didn't even realize would help my case. The best part was they helped prepare everything I needed for the professional I eventually hired. The platform basically scanned all my tax documents, bank statements, and receipts, then organized everything chronologically and by category. It made it super easy to see where the discrepancies were between what I reported and what the IRS was claiming.
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Andre Rousseau
•How exactly does this service work? Do you just upload all your documents and it figures everything out? I'm dealing with a similar situation but worried about privacy.
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Zoe Papadakis
•Sounds sketchy tbh. An AI system that somehow magically finds tax errors better than professionals? Did it actually reduce what you ended up owing or is this just an ad?
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Carmen Ortiz
•The service works by having you upload your tax documents, receipts, bank statements - basically anything relevant to your tax situation. The AI analyzes everything and identifies patterns, categorizes expenses, and flags potential issues. It's surprisingly thorough and found connections I hadn't noticed. As for the skepticism, I get it - I was hesitant too. But it's not about replacing professionals. In my case, it reduced what I owed by about 40% because it helped me properly document legitimate business expenses I had but couldn't easily organize before. The tax attorney I hired was actually impressed with how organized everything was when I came to him.
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Zoe Papadakis
I need to follow up on my skeptical comment. I actually ended up trying https://taxr.ai after getting hit with a surprise audit. I've gotta admit it was WAY more useful than I expected. It found a pattern of duplicated expenses that my previous accountant had accidentally entered twice (making it look like I was claiming double deductions). Would've taken forever to catch that manually! The organized document system made meeting with my CPA super efficient - cut down our billable hours significantly since we weren't spending time hunting through years of statements. Still needed the professional's expertise, but having everything organized and flagged beforehand saved me thousands in professional fees and helped identify about $23k in legitimate deductions I'd missed.
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Jamal Carter
Having gone through a similar nightmare with the IRS ($85k assessment), I'd strongly recommend getting professional help AND finding a way to actually speak with someone at the IRS. The professionals will help with your case, but actually getting through to the right person at the IRS can speed things up dramatically. After weeks of trying to call the IRS myself (always disconnected or 2+ hour holds), I found https://claimyr.com which got me through to an actual IRS agent within about 15 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c That conversation with the IRS agent was super valuable because they explained exactly what documentation they needed to review my case, and even helped me get a temporary hold on collections while my case was being reviewed. Having that direct information made all the difference.
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AstroAdventurer
•Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phones are notoriously impossible to get through on. Is this some kind of special access service?
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Mei Liu
•This sounds like complete BS. Nobody can magically get you through IRS phone lines when they're overloaded. They're a government agency with set procedures. I've worked with tax issues for years and there's no "secret backdoor" to the IRS.
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Jamal Carter
•It works by essentially waiting on hold for you. They have an automated system that calls the IRS and navigates the phone tree, then when they finally get through to a real person, they connect that call to your phone. So you're not waiting for hours - you just get a call when there's an actual human ready to talk. I had the exact same reaction when I first heard about it. I thought it was either a scam or wouldn't work. But it's not about having "special access" - it's just a service that handles the frustrating waiting process. And honestly, the direct conversation I had with the IRS agent gave me information that even my tax professional found helpful about exactly what documentation was needed for my specific case.
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Mei Liu
I need to publicly eat my words here. After dismissing the Claimyr service as BS, I decided to try it myself when I needed to resolve an issue for a client. I was absolutely shocked when I got a call back with an actual IRS agent on the line after trying unsuccessfully for WEEKS to get through myself. The agent I spoke with was able to explain exactly which forms we needed to submit for reconsideration and gave me a direct fax number for expedited processing. She also put notes in the system about our case that helped prevent automated collection efforts while we were gathering documentation. For anyone dealing with a serious IRS issue like the original poster, being able to actually speak with someone makes a massive difference. I still recommend professional representation, but having that direct line of communication with the IRS alongside professional help is the winning combination.
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Liam O'Sullivan
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - don't ignore the letter or miss the deadline to respond! Even if you haven't hired help yet, send something in writing acknowledging receipt of their notice and stating that you're in the process of gathering records and seeking professional assistance. I made the costly mistake of missing the 30-day window to contest an IRS assessment, and it severely limited my options after that. At minimum, request an extension while you find representation. You can always do this yourself even before hiring someone.
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CosmicCrusader
•Thank you for mentioning this! The letter gives me 45 days to respond or file an appeal. Should I just send a simple letter saying I'm gathering documentation and seeking professional help? Or is there specific language I should use?
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Liam O'Sullivan
•Yes, send a simple letter acknowledging receipt of their notice (include the notice number) and state that you're gathering documentation and seeking professional representation. Request an extension of time to respond fully - typically 30 or 60 additional days. Keep it professional and straightforward - don't try to argue your case yet or make any specific claims about your tax situation until you have professional guidance. The goal is simply to prevent default assessment while you get your team together. Send it certified mail so you have proof of delivery.
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Amara Chukwu
Been through this. For $140k, definitely get a tax attorney first, then let them decide if you need a CPA too. Don't cheap out here - a good tax attorney literally saved me about $70k on a $120k assessment. Make sure whoever you hire specializes in tax controversy/IRS disputes specifically. Regular CPAs who just do tax prep often make things worse in audit situations. Look for someone with at least 10+ years experience dealing with the IRS.
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Giovanni Conti
•How did you find a good tax attorney? Just Google? Any specific credentials to look for?
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