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TechNinja

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Something nobody mentioned yet - if you're dealing with ISOs, you'll need to receive Form 3921 from your wife's employer by January 31. This form shows the exercise price, FMV at exercise, etc. Make sure to keep this for your records! Also, don't forget about state taxes. Some states don't have preferential treatment for long-term capital gains, so you might pay the same rate regardless of how long you hold.

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Thanks for mentioning Form 3921. Will this form show the AMT adjustment amount or do we need to calculate that ourselves? Our state (California) doesn't have different rates for capital gains vs regular income, but I'm still trying to maximize the federal tax benefits and use up those carryover losses if possible.

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TechNinja

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Form 3921 won't calculate the AMT adjustment for you - it just provides the information you need to do that calculation yourself (or that your tax software will use). The form shows the exercise price, fair market value at exercise, and date information you need. California is indeed one of those states that taxes all income at the same rates regardless of whether it's capital gains or ordinary income. But given your federal carryover losses, it's worth talking to a tax professional about timing. Even though the ISO exercise+immediate sale would be ordinary income, there might be other strategies to utilize those capital loss carryovers in the same tax year.

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Has anyone used TurboTax for handling ISO exercises? I've got a bunch I need to exercise this year and I'm wondering if TurboTax handles the AMT calculations correctly or if I need to go to a CPA?

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TurboTax can handle basic ISO scenarios, but honestly, if you're dealing with a significant amount (sounds like you are), I'd go with a CPA who specializes in equity compensation. I made the mistake of using TurboTax last year and missed an AMT credit carryforward that cost me about $3,400. A good CPA will save you more than they cost.

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Have you considered looking for tax relief companies? My brother owed like $12k in back taxes from 1099 work and got help from one of those places advertised on the radio.

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Molly Hansen

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Be REALLY careful with tax relief companies! Most of them charge huge fees and promise things they can't deliver. They basically do the same things you can do yourself (set up payment plans, apply for currently not collectible status, or submit an offer in compromise). The IRS has their own programs that don't require paying a middleman. Check out the IRS Fresh Start program before paying some company thousands of dollars for something you could do yourself for free.

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Brady Clean

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Something else to consider - if you can put the tax payment on a credit card, sometimes that's better than the IRS payment plan depending on your interest rates. The IRS charges both interest and penalties on unpaid balances. Just be careful because there's usually a processing fee of around 2% to pay taxes with a credit card. But if you have a 0% intro offer or a very low interest rate, it might save you money compared to the IRS interest rates + penalties.

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I made this exact mistake last year but with $37 in dividends that showed up after my conversion. My accountant said not to worry about it and just include it in the basis for next year's conversion. Haven't had any issues.

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Did you have to pay any taxes on those dividends though? I'm confused about whether they count as income for the current year even if you're converting them later.

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Mia Green

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One thing nobody's mentioned - you should check if your traditional IRA has a "sweep" feature that automatically moves dividends to a money market fund. If it's set up right, you can have future dividends go directly to Roth if your brokerage allows it! Saved me a lot of hassle with these small amounts showing up randomly.

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Totally agree with using your complete records. I've been selling online for years and I always report my actual sales regardless of what's on any 1099s. A couple things to consider: - Make sure you're tracking everything properly (platform fees, shipping costs, returns, etc.) - Keep spreadsheets showing how your total income breaks down by platform - Save monthly statements from all platforms as backup - If the difference between your records and 1099-K is large, double check your math Tax authorities want accurate reporting, not just matching forms. As long as you're reporting ALL your income and have good records to back it up, you're doing the right thing.

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Do you know if there's a specific place on Schedule C where we should note the 1099-K amount vs our actual total? I'm new to all this and confused about how to show the breakdown.

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On Schedule C itself, you just report your total gross receipts on line 1. There's no specific place on Schedule C to break out 1099-K amounts separately. If you're using tax software, it might have a worksheet where you can enter various income sources and 1099 forms, but the Schedule C will show the combined total. Keep your own separate worksheet that reconciles your total income with the 1099-K amounts in case of questions later.

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Emma Davis

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Has anyone here dealt with returns that happened in different tax years? Like I got a 1099-K for the full sale amount but the customer returned it in January of the next year. How do you handle that?

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If you're on cash basis (most small sellers are), you report income when received and expenses when paid. So if the return/refund happens in the next year, it would be an expense for that next year, not an offset to the current year's income.

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Ezra Beard

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Just want to add - FIRE YOUR TAX PREPARER IMMEDIATELY! Telling you to "wait for an IRS letter" instead of properly handling tax elections is inexcusable and potentially costly negligence. A competent tax pro would have either: 1) Filed Form 2553 within the deadlines if S-corp was truly advantageous for you 2) Advised you to file Schedule E if that was more appropriate for your situation Instead, they put you in this mess. Also, it's questionable whether filing 1120S would even "help offset W2 income" for a simple rental property. That sounds like they were confusing rental real estate with active business income. Find someone who actually understands real estate taxation!

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Thanks for being so direct! You're right, I'm definitely not going back to that preparer. Do you have any tips on how to find someone who actually specializes in real estate tax situations? I'm worried about just finding another generic tax person who might not understand these specific issues.

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Ezra Beard

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Look for a tax professional who is either a CPA or EA (Enrolled Agent) who specifically lists real estate investors as a client focus. Ask potential preparers how many clients they have with rental properties and LLCs. A good test question is to ask them to explain the differences between Schedule E reporting and S-corporation treatment for rental income - if they can't clearly articulate the pros and cons of each approach for your specific situation, keep looking. I also recommend checking with local real estate investor associations or networking groups - these often have recommended tax pros who serve their members. These professionals typically understand both the tax advantages and pitfalls specifically related to rental properties and real estate investments.

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Im confused about one thing - if an LLC files 1120S without ever filing 2553, doesnt the IRS usually reject the return or send a notice? My brother did something similar and got a letter like 6 months later saying his S-corp election wasnt valid. did anyone else experience this?

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Yes, this happened to me! Got a notice about 8 months after filing saying my 1120S was "filed in error" since they had no record of a valid S-election. They gave me 60 days to either file Form 2553 late (with reasonable cause) or file the correct return type. The lesson I learned is don't wait for their letter - it takes them forever to catch these things, and meanwhile you're continuing to file incorrectly.

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