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So I ended up with a hefty refund this past tax season that I wasn't expecting - basically loaned the government $10K interest-free. Frustrating! The main chunk came from the Clean Vehicle Credit ($7,500) which I honestly wasn't sure I'd qualify for until December when all the final guidance came out about income limits and eligible vehicles. The remaining balance was from Social Security tax overpayment from working multiple jobs last year - without that overpayment I actually would have owed money. While I'm annoyed at myself for essentially giving the IRS a free loan, the whole calculation was pretty complicated with the EV credit uncertainty and multiple income sources. I guess I'd rather have this outcome than owing thousands with penalties and interest. Planning to adjust my withholding so I get much closer to a zero balance for next filing season.
So I think I got a bit too aggressive with my quarterly tax payments for 2023. I was paranoid about getting hit with underpayment penalties since this was my first year freelancing full-time. Turns out I way overestimated what I would owe! I'm using FreeTaxUSA to file my return now and I'm not sure exactly how to handle this situation. Will the software automatically calculate that I'm owed money back from those overpayments? Or do I need to fill out some special form to claim those overpayments? I paid about $14,500 in estimated quarterly payments throughout the year but my actual tax liability is looking like it's only around $9,200. I'd really like to get that $5,300 difference back without any issues! Any help would be super appreciated because I'm kinda lost in the tax wilderness here...
One thing to watch out for - make sure the estimated payments were actually credited to the correct tax year. I once had an issue where one of my Q4 payments accidentally got applied to the next tax year instead of the current one. In FreeTaxUSA, double check the year designation when entering your payments. Also, keep in mind that if you paid state estimated taxes too, those are handled separately in the state return section. The federal section only deals with federal estimated payments.
Thanks for mentioning this! How would I know if a payment was applied to the wrong year? I made my Q4 payment in January 2024 but it was for tax year 2023. Should I be concerned?
If you made your Q4 payment in January 2024 but intended it for tax year 2023, you should be fine as long as you designated it correctly when making the payment. The IRS form/payment system usually asks you which tax year the payment is for. To verify this, you can check your payment confirmation from when you made the payment. It should indicate the tax year. If you're still concerned, you can create an online account at IRS.gov and view your payment history, which shows which tax year each payment was applied to. Just make sure when entering in FreeTaxUSA that you include this payment with your 2023 estimated payments, even though you made it in 2024.
Has anyone else noticed that FreeTaxUSA sometimes doesn't clearly show where to enter quarterly payments? I was clicking around forever trying to find it! For anyone else confused, go to the "Payments" section and look for "Federal Estimated Tax Payments" - that's where you'll enter each quarterly payment.
So I've been maxing out my Roth 401k at work every year (plus getting some sweet employer matching). I also max out my TRADITIONAL IRA contributions separately. Here's where I'm confused... I'm doing my taxes through H&R Block and when I get to the IRA section, it's telling me my TRADITIONAL IRA contribution is NOT tax-deductible because I participate in a work retirement plan. But wait - my work plan is a ROTH 401k where I'm already paying taxes on those contributions! Shouldn't my TRADITIONAL IRA contributions be tax-deductible in this case since they're my only pre-tax retirement savings? The whole point of having one of each was to diversify my tax situation. I've searched online but all the examples I find are either Roth with Roth, or Traditional with Traditional, or Traditional 401k with Roth IRA. I can't find a clear answer about my specific Roth 401k + Traditional IRA combo. Is H&R Block's guidance wrong here? Just want to make sure I'm getting any deduction I'm entitled to! Anyone dealt with this specific situation before?
Another option to consider is whether you're eligible for a Roth IRA instead of the Traditional IRA. If your income is below the Roth IRA limits (higher than the Traditional IRA deductibility limits), you could switch to contributing to a Roth IRA. That way, you'd still get tax advantages, just on the withdrawal end instead of the contribution end. For 2024, Roth IRA contributions phase out between $146,000-$161,000 for single filers and $230,000-$240,000 for married filing jointly. Worth considering if you're in that income range!
Thanks for this suggestion! My income is actually within the Roth IRA eligibility range but below the higher threshold. I was trying to diversify between pre-tax and post-tax retirement savings, but if I can't deduct the Traditional IRA contributions anyway, switching to Roth IRA might make more sense. Would there be any advantage to keeping non-deductible Traditional IRA contributions rather than just going with the Roth IRA directly?
If you can't deduct your Traditional IRA contributions and you're eligible for a Roth IRA, there's generally little advantage to making non-deductible Traditional IRA contributions instead of contributing directly to a Roth IRA. The main exception would be if you're planning to use the "Backdoor Roth" strategy in the future. Some people make non-deductible Traditional IRA contributions and then immediately convert them to Roth. This can be useful for those who exceed the Roth IRA income limits. However, this gets complicated if you already have other pre-tax money in Traditional IRAs due to the "pro-rata" rule.
Has anyone used TurboTax for this situation instead of H&R Block? I'm wondering if different tax software handles the Roth 401k + Traditional IRA combination differently or if they all follow the same logic.
So I'm freaking out right now because I filed for a tax extension back in April, which gave me until October 15th to get everything submitted. Well, life happened (family emergency, work crisis, you name it) and here I am past the deadline. I completely forgot about it until yesterday when my sister asked if I'd finished my taxes. My income situation isn't super complicated - regular W-2 from my main job, plus some freelance writing stuff that brought in about $8,500 last year. I don't think I owe a ton, maybe even due a small refund since I usually overwithhold. But I'm worried about penalties now. Does anyone know what happens when you miss even the extension deadline? Are there different penalties depending on if you owe vs are due a refund? And how quickly should I file now - like should I drop everything and do it today, or am I already in trouble so a few more days won't matter?
Just wanted to add - make sure you check if you qualify for "reasonable cause" relief. My mother was hospitalized last tax season and I missed my extended deadline by 3 weeks. I wrote a letter explaining the situation, included some documentation, and the IRS waived all penalties. They're actually more understanding than people think if you have a legitimate reason and documentation.
Do you have any tips for what counts as "reasonable cause"? Would my scenario qualify? And did you just include the letter with your late return or file first and then send the letter separately?
Reasonable cause includes things like serious illness, death in the family, natural disasters, or inability to access records. Your family emergency might qualify depending on the specifics. The more documentation you can provide, the better. I filed my return first (to stop additional penalties from accruing) and then sent the reasonable cause letter separately. I referenced my return and included my tax ID number. Keep the letter concise but include specific dates and explain exactly how the situation prevented you from filing on time.
Honestly the IRS is surprisingly reasonable about this stuff. I missed my extension deadline by over a month last year and just filed as soon as I could. Turned out I was owed a refund so there were no penalties at all. Even if you do owe, first-time penalty abatement is pretty easy to get if you've been compliant in prior years. Don't stress too much - just file ASAP!
So I started an LLC last year that ended up losing about $6,500 overall. Now I'm trying to figure out if I should hire a CPA or just use TurboTax to file everything. I've also got my regular W-2 job and did some side gig driving for Uber/Lyft on weekends to try to make ends meet. I'm leaning towards finding a CPA because I heard they can help spread some of the LLC expenses over multiple years which might be better for me tax-wise. But I've never worked with a CPA before and I'm honestly worried about how much it'll cost me. Especially since the business already lost money! Anyone have experience with a similar situation? Is TurboTax good enough to handle an LLC with losses plus the rideshare stuff, or should I bite the bullet and pay for a professional?
I've been running a small LLC for 5 years now and honestly, the first year is when a CPA is most valuable. They can help you set up everything properly, establish good record-keeping habits, and make sure you're maximizing deductions. After that first year, many people with straightforward LLCs can switch to TurboTax if they want to save money. The most important thing for your LLC that lost money is making sure those losses are properly documented so they can offset your other income (depending on your participation level and the type of LLC). A CPA will definitely get this right the first time.
This is really helpful, thanks! Do you think it would be worth meeting with a CPA for just a consultation to get set up properly, then maybe using software to actually file? And do you have any tips on finding a decent CPA who won't charge an arm and a leg?
A consultation with a CPA is definitely a smart middle ground. Many offer an initial meeting at a reduced rate or even free. This gives you professional guidance on setting up your books and understanding what expenses to track, without the full cost of having them prepare your return. For finding an affordable CPA, I'd recommend asking other small business owners in your area for recommendations. Also look for smaller firms or solo practitioners rather than larger firms, as they often have more competitive rates for small businesses. Some CPAs even offer special rates for startups or businesses that lost money. Don't be afraid to call around and ask about their fee structure - most are very transparent about costs.
Whatever you do, don't try to do the LLC stuff completely on your own if you've never done it before. I messed up my first year filing for my LLC using the cheapest version of TurboTax and ended up with a $1,200 tax bill I shouldn't have had because I categorized things wrong. Had to file an amended return and it was a huge headache.
Dylan Evans
Pro tip for anyone with the EV credit situation - you don't have to wait until tax time. I bought my EV in March last year and immediately adjusted my W-4 to account for the $7,500 credit. Instead of reducing withholding across the remaining 9 months by $833/month, I reduced it by $625/month to build in a small buffer just in case. Ended up with a tiny $380 refund instead of a massive one! Just divide the credit by your remaining pay periods and adjust accordingly.
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Sofia Gomez
What about the Social Security overpayment though? I work two jobs and always end up overpaying. Is there a way to adjust for that during the year too?
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Dylan Evans
The Social Security overpayment is trickier because employers don't coordinate with each other. If you know your total earnings will exceed the Social Security wage base ($168,600 for 2024), you can estimate how much you'll overpay. The calculation is basically 6.2% of the amount you'll earn above the wage base across all jobs. Once you have that number, you can adjust your W-4 at your highest-paying job to compensate by adding that estimated overpayment amount to Step 3 of your W-4 or reducing the additional withholding in Step 4(c). Just be careful not to adjust so much that you end up owing a lot at tax time. It's usually safer to get a small refund than to owe penalties.
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StormChaser
Did anyone else notice OP mentioned they were "unsure if I'd qualify for [the EV credit] until late in the year"? This is a huge problem with the new Clean Vehicle Credit rules! I want to buy an EV but I'm self-employed with fluctuating income, so I have no idea if I'll be under the MAGI limits ($300k joint) until December. Should I just not claim it on my W-4 and get a big refund to be safe?
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Mei Wong
I'm planning on erring on the side of caution. If your income might put you over the threshold, don't adjust your withholding for the credit. Better to get a refund than owe penalties. You could also do a partial adjustment if you're fairly confident you'll get at least some of the credit.
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