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5 Something else to consider - are you planning to do the S Corp election yourself or work with a tax professional? I tried doing it myself last year and messed up the form because I didn't realize my operating agreement needed specific language for S Corp compatibility. Ended up having to redo everything and missed the deadline. Also, remember you'll need to run payroll and pay yourself a "reasonable salary" once you elect S Corp status. That means additional payroll tax filings and compliance requirements starting from whatever date you make the election effective.
8 What's considered a "reasonable salary" exactly? I've heard different things - some say 50% of profits, others say market rate for your position. I'm also wondering about the payroll part, do you use a service for that or DIY?
5 The "reasonable salary" requirement is probably the trickiest part of S Corp compliance. There's no fixed percentage or formula - the IRS evaluates it case by case. The most defensible approach is researching what similar positions earn in your industry and location. BLS.gov has salary data that can help document your reasoning. I absolutely recommend using a payroll service rather than DIY. I tried handling it myself initially and it was a nightmare keeping up with all the filing requirements and deadlines. I now use Gusto which costs about $45/month but handles all the calculations, filings, and direct deposits automatically. The peace of mind is worth every penny, especially since penalties for incorrect payroll tax filings can be steep.
19 Sorry to jump in - but wanted to mention that making yourself an S Corp in the middle of the year creates a short tax year, which means filing two tax returns for one calendar year. You'll need to file: 1) Schedule C for your self-employment from Feb-May 2) Form 1120-S for your S Corp from May-Dec That can significantly increase your tax preparation costs. Plus, many accountants charge more for S Corp returns (typically $800-1200) compared to Schedule C preparation. If your projected tax savings are modest, it might make more sense to wait until Jan 1 for simplicity.
16 Interesting point about the short tax year filing. Would that mean two separate state filings as well? And what about quarterly estimated tax payments - would those need to be recalculated mid-year?
Just wanted to add another perspective - I missed the deadline last year while living in Germany. If you're a US citizen living abroad, you might actually qualify for an automatic 2-month extension without having to request it. This pushes your filing deadline to June 15th, but that only helps if you haven't already filed for an extension to October. Also look into whether you qualify for Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (Form 2555) which might reduce or eliminate your US tax liability depending on your income source. When I finally filed late, I ended up owing way less than I thought because of these expat provisions.
Wait, I've been overseas for 8 months now. Does that mean I might have qualified for that automatic extension? Do they just give it to you, or do you need to specifically request it? Also, do you know if that Foreign Earned Income thing requires you to have been overseas for a certain amount of time?
The automatic 2-month extension is given automatically to US citizens living abroad - you don't need to request it. However, it only extends the original April deadline to June, not the October extension deadline. So in your current situation, it wouldn't help unfortunately. For the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, you typically need to meet either the Physical Presence Test (physically present in foreign countries for at least 330 days in a 12-month period) or the Bona Fide Residence Test (establish residence in a foreign country for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year). Since you've been abroad 8 months, you might qualify under the Physical Presence Test depending on your specific dates. It's definitely worth looking into because it could exclude up to $120,000 of foreign earned income from US taxation.
Has anyone here actually mailed a return from overseas? I'm in a similar boat (missed deadline, living in Thailand) and have no idea how reliable international mail is for tax documents. Like, do I need to use USPS specifically or would a courier be better? And which IRS address do I even use?
I've sent tax docs from Japan twice now. Definitely use a courier service like DHL or FedEx rather than regular mail. They're much more reliable and give you tracking info. The IRS address you use depends on whether you're enclosing a payment - it should be listed on the IRS website under "where to file." Make sure to keep copies of EVERYTHING and proof of mailing.
Don't forget that if you can't pay the full amount by April 15th, you should STILL FILE YOUR RETURN ON TIME! A lot of first-time filers think "well I can't pay so I'll just file late" and that's the worst thing you can do. The penalty for filing late is 5% of the unpaid taxes for each month or part of a month that the return is late, up to 25% of your unpaid taxes. The penalty for paying late is only 0.5% per month. Huge difference!
Whoa I had no idea there were different penalties! So if I file on time but can't pay everything, I'll only get the smaller penalty? Is there any way to avoid penalties completely if I just need like an extra month to pay?
Exactly! Always file on time even if you can't pay - the filing penalty is 10 times higher than the payment penalty. It's one of the most expensive mistakes new filers make. If you just need an extra month or two, you might qualify for a short-term payment plan with minimal or no setup fee through the IRS website. For extremely short delays (like a few weeks), sometimes you can call and request a one-time extension without penalties, but this is case-by-case and not guaranteed. Your best bet is to pay as much as you can by April 15th to minimize the amount subject to penalties, then set up a formal payment arrangement for the rest.
Anyone know if state tax payment deadlines are different from federal? I always get confused about this.
Here's something nobody mentioned yet - have you checked if your parents already claimed you as a dependent on their return? If they did, and then you file an amendment claiming yourself as independent, it's going to cause problems. Before you go further with fixing the technical form issues, make sure your parents understand you're filing as independent. If they've already claimed you and filed, one of you will need to make an adjustment. The IRS computers will flag conflicting claims for the same person.
That's actually a really good point I hadn't considered. I did talk to my parents before filing the amendment and they agreed I should file as independent since I provided more than half of my own support last year. But now that you mention it, I'm not 100% sure they didn't already claim me on their return that they filed back in February. Should I have them check their return before I fix mine? Would that affect the specific error I'm getting about the credits not matching?
Definitely have them check their return first. The error you're getting about credits not matching could actually be indirectly related to this dependent status issue. When you change from dependent to independent, it affects multiple calculations throughout your return. The issue might be that TurboTax is trying to give you credits that you're eligible for as an independent filer, but the system is getting confused because there's conflicting information about your status in the IRS database. If your parents claimed you, the IRS computers may be rejecting certain credits you're trying to claim on your amended return, causing those total amounts to be inconsistent.
Why not just call TurboTax support directly? They deal with these specific error codes all the time. The error message is clearly about the tax credits not matching up between forms, and they should be able to walk you through exactly which fields to check. I had a similar rejection with a different code last year, and the TurboTax rep actually did a screen share with me and pointed out exactly where the inconsistency was. Much easier than trying to figure it out yourself.
Lucas Lindsey
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that your father needs to be aware of recapture rules if he doesn't maintain 100% business use for the entire recovery period. If business use drops below 50% in future years, he could face significant recapture of the benefit. Also, there are phase-out schedules for both the bonus depreciation and the EV credit depending on the year of purchase. Bonus depreciation under 168(k) is scheduled to phase down 20% each year starting in 2023, and the EV credit has manufacturer sales caps and income limits. Make sure he's working with a tax professional who can help him understand all the implications before making such a large purchase.
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Jason Brewer
ā¢Thanks for bringing up the recapture issue - that's something I wasn't aware of. What exactly is the "recovery period" and how long would he need to maintain business use? He plans to use it exclusively for business for at least 5 years. Also, do you know if there's an income limit that might prevent him from claiming the full EV credit? His 1099 income fluctuates year by year.
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Lucas Lindsey
ā¢The recovery period for vehicles is typically 5 years, so your father's plan to use it exclusively for business during that time would avoid recapture issues. If business use drops below 50% during those 5 years, he would need to recapture the excess depreciation taken and report it as ordinary income. Yes, there are income limits for the EV credit. For a single filer, the credit begins to phase out at $150,000 AGI and is eliminated at $160,000. For married filing jointly, those thresholds are $300,000 and $310,000 respectively. With fluctuating 1099 income, he should do some tax planning to see if he'll fall under these limits in the year of purchase. If he's close to the threshold, he might want to consider timing the purchase or implementing strategies to reduce his AGI for that year.
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Sophie Duck
Another consideration - make sure to check if the specific Tesla model is eligible for the full $7500 credit. Not all EVs qualify for the full amount anymore due to battery sourcing requirements. The IRS maintains a list of qualifying vehicles and their credit amounts. Also, don't forget about potential state incentives! Many states offer additional tax credits or rebates for EV purchases on top of the federal benefits.
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Austin Leonard
ā¢This is an excellent point. The Inflation Reduction Act changed the requirements, and now the vehicle must meet North American final assembly requirements. Additionally, there are critical mineral and battery component requirements that affect the credit amount. Tesla has been adjusting their supply chain to qualify, but it varies by model and can change.
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