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My sister went through something similar last year. The key thing to understand is that an already-inherited IRA has to stay in the original beneficiary's name with an additional "for benefit of" (FBO) designation for the successor beneficiary. So it would be something like "[Sister-in-law's name] IRA (deceased) FBO [Father-in-law's name] (deceased) FBO [Mother-in-law's name]." This gets super confusing for the custodians because they don't deal with it often. Make sure they don't mistakenly try to do a 60-day rollover (which isn't allowed for inherited IRAs) or reset the distribution schedule. Your mother-in-law has to continue on the same distribution schedule that was established when your father-in-law inherited it.
Thank you so much for this - especially the naming convention! That's exactly what we've been confused about. The custodian kept talking about "reregistering" the account and we weren't sure if that was the right thing. Is there a specific form we should ask for to make this transfer happen correctly?
You'll want to ask the custodian for their "Inherited IRA Successor Beneficiary" form or sometimes it's called a "Death of Beneficiary" form. Each institution has slightly different paperwork, but those terms should help them find the right forms. Your mother-in-law will need to provide a copy of your father-in-law's death certificate and possibly his original inherited IRA paperwork. Be very specific that this is a successor beneficiary situation for an already-inherited IRA, not a new inheritance. If the person you're speaking with seems confused, ask to talk with their inherited IRA specialist - most larger institutions have people who specifically handle these more complex scenarios.
One important thing no one's mentioned - if your sister-in-law passed away BEFORE the SECURE Act implementation date (December 31, 2019), different rules might apply. The SECURE Act changed how inherited IRAs work pretty dramatically, but some inheritances were grandfathered under the old rules. Has anyone confirmed which distribution rules your father-in-law was following? Was he taking required minimum distributions based on his life expectancy, or was he subject to the 10-year rule?
This is such an important point. My family got caught in this exact situation - my uncle passed in 2018 (pre-SECURE Act), then his beneficiary (my cousin) passed in 2022. The financial institution tried to apply the post-SECURE Act 10-year rule to the successor beneficiary, which was incorrect. The original inheritance date is what matters.
Worth noting here that while these expenses are deductible, you should be careful about how you categorize them on your tax forms. I entered mine under "Advertising" on Schedule C (line 8) rather than as "Other expenses" since that's what they essentially are - a modern form of advertising.
Do you need to keep special documentation beyond the invoices from the production company? My accountant mentioned something about needing to document the "business purpose" but wasn't clear what that meant exactly.
Beyond the invoices, I'd recommend keeping a simple log that documents the business purpose of each video. Nothing complicated - just a spreadsheet with video titles, publication dates, and a brief note about how each relates to your business (like "demonstrates expertise in X service" or "explains process relevant to potential clients"). This extra documentation isn't strictly required, but it's extremely helpful if you ever get audited. I learned this the hard way when I had to justify some marketing expenses during a review. Having a clear business purpose documented for each expense makes the process much smoother.
Just to add another perspective - I've been deducting YouTube production costs for 3 years now ($3500-5000 per video) and never had an issue. My videos are educational about financial planning but obviously help me get clients. My tax software (TurboTax) specifically mentioned that content marketing is a legitimate advertising expense when I was entering the deductions.
Which category in TurboTax did you use for this? I'm trying to enter similar expenses and getting confused about where they belong.
11 This might be a response to increased IRS scrutiny of tax preparers. My sister works at a tax firm and they recently implemented stricter documentation policies because they got audited. But they told clients about the policy change well in advance and explained exactly which regulation they were complying with. Your preparer's approach sounds suspicious - why wait until months after tax season? And why not explain the specific requirement?
2 Could it be related to the new preparer requirements that went into effect this year? I heard something about tax professionals needing more documentation, but not sure of the details.
11 Yes, there are enhanced due diligence requirements for preparers, especially for returns claiming certain credits. But these are typically addressed during tax preparation, not months later. And the requirements focus on verifying eligibility for specific tax benefits - not necessarily collecting copies of everyone's IDs after the fact. More concerning is the vague explanation of "fiscal year closing" which isn't a standard term associated with preparer documentation requirements. A legitimate request would cite specific IRS regulations or PTIN requirements that necessitate the documentation.
5 I've been a client at my tax firm for over 20 years and they did something similar last year, but it was because they were implementing new security protocols after a data breach at another office in their network. They clearly explained this was for enhanced security and gave us multiple secure options for providing the information (secure portal, in-person verification, etc). The vague explanation you received is what concerns me most.
7 How did you end up handling it? Did you provide the documents they asked for? I'm really confused about what to do here.
I'm a little confused by what everyone is suggesting. If the sales on eBay were just personal items (like selling old clothes, furniture, electronics you no longer needed), that's usually not taxable if you sold them for less than you originally paid. The IRS calls this selling at a loss. It's only taxable if you made a profit or if this was like a business where you were buying stuff specifically to resell.
Most of what I sold were collectibles I'd been buying and flipping, so definitely not personal items sold at a loss. I was buying things specifically to resell at a higher price, so based on what you're saying, it sounds like I would owe taxes on this income. I'm guessing this would count as a business activity?
Yes, that definitely counts as business activity since you were buying with the intention to resell at a profit. That would be subject to both income tax and self-employment tax (15.3% on top of regular income tax). But the good news is you can deduct all your legitimate business expenses - the cost of the items you purchased to resell, any shipping supplies, eBay and PayPal fees, mileage driven to purchase inventory or ship items, a portion of your internet if you're listing from home, etc. These deductions can substantially reduce the taxable profit.
Just so you know, the IRS has started getting reports from payment processors like PayPal and Venmo for transactions over $600 starting in 2023 (was supposed to be 2022 but they delayed it). So even though you might not have received 1099s for previous years, going forward they'll have more visibility into your online sales income.
That's only for goods and services payments though right? If you use friends and family that doesn't get reported.
Correct, it's only for goods and services payments. But using Friends and Family for business transactions is against PayPal's terms of service and can get your account limited or banned. Plus, as a buyer, you lose purchase protection when using Friends and Family. More importantly, deliberately using Friends and Family to avoid tax reporting could be considered tax evasion if the IRS can prove intent. Many platforms are getting better at detecting when people are trying to circumvent the system, so it's a risky strategy that can lead to bigger problems down the road.
QuantumQuester
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that you might need to file Form 8606 if your Traditional IRA contribution is non-deductible (which is common if your income is above the deduction limits). The recharacterization doesn't change whether the contribution is deductible or not - that depends on your income and whether you're covered by a workplace retirement plan.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
ā¢Thanks for bringing this up! I am actually above the income limit for deductible contributions, so I'll definitely need to file Form 8606. Do I still report the recharacterized amount ($5,300) on that form, or do I need to use the original $6,000?
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QuantumQuester
ā¢You would report the recharacterized amount ($5,300) on Form 8606 since that's what actually went into your Traditional IRA. This becomes your basis in the Traditional IRA for future distributions or conversions. Form 8606 is really important in your situation because it establishes that you've already paid tax on this money. Without it, you could end up being taxed twice on the same funds when you eventually withdraw them.
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Yara Nassar
I think there's some confusion among the replies. When you recharacterize, you're supposed to move the ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION plus/minus any earnings/losses. So in this case, the $5,300 is the correct amount that should have been moved ($6,000 original - $700 loss).
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Keisha Williams
ā¢I agree. The fact that the 5498 only shows the recharacterized amount ($5,300) is exactly right. The IRS treats this as if you had contributed $5,300 to the Traditional IRA from the beginning. The $700 loss is just part of the investment experience, not an excess contribution that needs to be withdrawn.
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