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Another thing to consider when looking at CPA prices - ask exactly what's included in both packages. For $1,600 filing only vs $3,000 advisory, make sure you know: - Does the filing package include all state returns for those 4-6 states? - Does advisory include tax planning meetings? How many per year? - Will they represent you in case of audit? (This is HUGE) - Do they help with quarterly estimates calculations? - Will they file extensions if needed at no extra cost? - Do they have expertise in your specific business type? I was quoted similar prices last year and went with the cheaper option, but ended up paying more in add-on fees when things got complicated. The comprehensive package usually ends up being better value if you have a complex situation like yours.
These are great questions I hadn't thought to ask! Do CPAs typically provide some kind of service agreement that spells all this out, or is it more informal? I definitely want to make sure we know exactly what we're getting.
Yes, reputable CPAs will provide an engagement letter that outlines exactly what services are included, their fees, and any potential additional charges. This is a formal document that protects both you and them by setting clear expectations. It's completely normal and professional to ask for this in writing before proceeding. The engagement letter should detail everything - filing which forms, for which states, what happens if you need amendments, audit support terms, and for advisory services, how many consultations you get and what specific planning areas they'll address. If they're reluctant to provide this in writing, that's actually a red flag.
Has anyone considered that $60,000 tax bill might be wrong? Turbotax is good but it can mess up with complex situations like this. My wife and I got hit with a huge bill using turbotax last year but when a CPA looked at it, they found turbotax had double-counted some income and missed several deductions. Our actual bill was less than half what turbotax calculated!
This is a really good point. I've seen TurboTax struggle with multi-state income and self-employment situations. One specific issue to check: TurboTax sometimes doesn't properly allocate income between states when you've moved mid-year, which can lead to double taxation. It also sometimes misses home office deductions for self-employed people.
One thing no one has mentioned yet - the IRS has extraordinary collection powers that other creditors don't have. If you don't file and don't pay, they can eventually: - Place tax liens against your property - Levy your bank accounts (take money directly) - Garnish your wages without going to court first - Seize and sell your property - Take your tax refunds in future years - Sometimes even suspend passports for large tax debts I learned all this the hard way after ignoring my taxes for 2 years. It took me 5+ years to clean up the mess. The interest and penalties more than doubled my original tax debt. Just file your return, pay what you can, and get on a payment plan. The weight off your shoulders will be worth it.
Thank you all for the advice. I'm definitely going to file now after reading everything. I had no idea the failure-to-file penalties were so much worse than failure-to-pay. I'm going to look into both the installment plan and that Offer in Compromise program. One last question - if I get on a payment plan, will they still put liens on my property or anything like that? I'm renting right now but hoping to buy a house in the next couple years.
Generally, if you're on a payment plan and staying current with your payments, the IRS won't file a tax lien. However, this depends partly on how much you owe. For smaller debts (under $25,000) with an installment agreement, they typically don't file liens if you're compliant with the terms. For larger amounts, they might still file a lien as protection, even with a payment plan in place. The good news is that once you've made enough payments to get below a certain threshold, or if you've been in compliance with your plan for a specified period, you can request for them to withdraw the lien. This is something that changed with their Fresh Start program to help taxpayers.
Don't forget about state taxes too! Depending on where you live, state tax authorities can be even more aggressive than the IRS in some ways. I ignored both federal and state taxes one year and my state started collection proceedings way faster than the IRS did. In my case, the state department of revenue put a lien on my bank account just 6 months after I missed the filing deadline. Had NO warning except for letters I was too scared to open. Woke up one day and couldn't access my money!
One tool I don't see mentioned yet is CCH Axcess. If you're going into public accounting, this is used by tons of firms and knowing it is a huge plus. Also worth looking at UltraTax and Drake Software if you're going into tax preparation specifically. But honestly, the best approach is to look at job postings for the specific type of tax role you want and see what they're asking for. Tax technology needs vary wildly between public accounting, industry, and government roles.
Is CCH Axcess something you can learn on your own though? I thought you needed to work at a firm that uses it to get access. Are there any training resources available for people who don't already work somewhere with these specialized tax software packages?
You're right that it's difficult to get hands-on experience with CCH Axcess without working somewhere that uses it. However, CCH does offer some free webinars and training materials on their website that can at least familiarize you with the interface and capabilities. For specialized tax software, your best bet is to look for YouTube tutorials and documentation online. Many vendors have published training materials that you can access. While it's not the same as hands-on experience, being able to speak intelligently about the software and its capabilities can still give you an edge in interviews. Some universities also have partnerships with these vendors to provide student access - worth checking if your school offers this.
Honestly most of what I've seen is that Excel is still the primary tool used in like 90% of tax departments, even at big companies. All these fancy tools sound great but I've worked at 3 different companies and it's always Excel hell with maybe some basic SQL or Access if you're lucky.
I'm a tax preparer and just want to clarify that while the home office deduction isn't available for W-2 employees currently, if you do ANY self-employed work (even small side gigs), you might be able to allocate a portion of your home office expenses to that business. You'd need to track time spent on self-employment vs. employee work carefully. Also worth noting - some states have their own provisions for home office deductions that don't match federal rules. California, for example, still allows employee business expenses in some cases.
That's interesting about the state provisions. Do you know which states besides California allow home office deductions for employees? I'm in New York if that helps.
New York does allow itemized deductions for unreimbursed employee expenses, including home office expenses in some cases. You'd need to file IT-196 to claim these deductions on your state return. Other states that may allow employee business expense deductions include Alabama, Arkansas, Hawaii, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and several others. Each has different rules and thresholds though, so you'll need to check your specific state's guidelines or consult with a tax professional familiar with your state's tax code.
Has anyone tried asking their employer to set up an accountable plan for home office expenses? My company just started doing this - they reimburse my internet and some utility costs for my home office, and it's not taxable income to me but is deductible for them. Seems like a win-win.
Kaitlyn Jenkins
Former CPA here. There are basically three types of tax preparers: 1) Data entry folks who just put your info in software (most chain places) 2) Compliance-focused CPAs who ensure everything is correct but don't proactively plan 3) Tax planners who actively look for ways to optimize your situation Most people end up with #2 but want #3. The problem is many CPAs are overwhelmed during tax season just keeping up with compliance work. Real tax planning should happen in the summer/fall, not March/April. If you want more proactive advice, specifically ask for a tax planning session OUTSIDE of tax season. Be prepared to pay for this separately, but it's worth it. And if your current CPA doesn't offer this service, then yes, find one who does.
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Caleb Bell
โขThis is super helpful! Do you have any specific questions we should ask when interviewing a new CPA to determine if they're more of a #2 or #3?
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Kaitlyn Jenkins
โขAsk them: "Do you provide mid-year tax planning meetings?" and "Can you describe your process for identifying tax saving opportunities throughout the year, not just at filing time?" A good #3 tax planner will have clear answers about their proactive approach. Also ask: "What tax planning strategies have you implemented with clients in situations similar to mine?" They should be able to give specific examples without hesitation. Finally, inquire about their fee structure for planning services versus compliance work. True tax planners typically have separate engagement options for planning versus just tax preparation.
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Danielle Campbell
One thing nobody's mentioned is that you should also look at the size of the firm. I've had better luck with small/medium firms (3-10 CPAs) rather than solo practitioners or huge firms. Solo CPAs are often too overwhelmed with work volume to be strategic, and at massive firms you're often just getting a junior person who's following a checklist unless you're a high-net-worth client paying premium fees. The mid-size firms seem to hit the sweet spot where they have enough staff to handle the workload but you still get personalized attention from experienced CPAs.
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Rhett Bowman
โขThis matches my experience too. I switched from a solo CPA to a mid-size firm last year and the difference is night and day. They caught several things my previous guy missed including HSA contribution strategies.
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