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Mason Stone

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If you filed with a professional tax preparer last year, they might have your PIN or a copy of your return with the AGI on file. Worth giving them a call if that's how you filed. I completely forgot I had used H&R Block last year until I started panicking about my PIN, gave them a call, and they had everything I needed.

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This is good advice! Also works if you used the same tax software as last year - sometimes your AGI is saved in your account info, especially if you paid for the deluxe versions that store your returns.

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Jabari-Jo

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Another option if you're still stuck is to request an Identity Protection PIN (IP PIN) from the IRS if you qualify. This is different from your self-select PIN and can be used for identity verification when e-filing. You can check if you're eligible on the IRS website - they've expanded the program in recent years. Also, just a heads up that if you do end up creating a new self-select PIN this year, consider storing it in a password manager or writing it down somewhere safe along with your AGI. I learned this lesson the hard way after going through the same frustration you're experiencing! The IRS recommends keeping your prior year tax return easily accessible for exactly this reason.

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Alicia Stern

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Great point about the Identity Protection PIN! I didn't know that was an option for verification. Quick question - if I get an IP PIN this year, does that replace the need for a self-select PIN permanently, or would I still need to create one when filing? And is the IP PIN something I'd use every year going forward or just as a one-time solution for this PIN issue? Also totally agree about storing this info better - I'm definitely going to start keeping better records after this stressful experience!

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I'm really sorry you're going through this Katherine - the CRA hold situation is incredibly frustrating, especially when you're a small business owner who needs that refund for essential operations. Based on what I'm seeing in this thread, it looks like several people have had success with different approaches. The supervisor route seems to be working for quite a few people here. When you call the Business Enquiries line (1-800-959-5525), ask immediately to speak with a supervisor about "expedited processing due to financial hardship" - use those exact words. Be very specific about how the delay is impacting your business (like not being able to repair your work vehicle). Document everything with reference numbers. If the supervisor approach doesn't work within a couple weeks, the Taxpayer Ombudsman option that Faith mentioned sounds really promising. Having a "resolution specialist" with actual authority to expedite cases could be exactly what you need when the normal channels aren't working. Have you had any luck yet with the strategies people have suggested? I'm hoping one of these approaches helps you get your $4,570 refund released much sooner than the 10 weeks they originally quoted. Keep us posted on how it goes!

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As someone new to dealing with CRA issues, I'm finding this thread incredibly helpful but also pretty overwhelming. The fact that so many people are dealing with similar hold situations suggests this is a widespread problem with how CRA handles missing GST/HST returns. What strikes me is how much the quality of help seems to depend on which agent you get connected to. Some people are getting standard "10 weeks, nothing we can do" responses while others are finding supervisors who can actually expedite things. It really seems like persistence and knowing the right words to say makes a huge difference. I'm bookmarking the Taxpayer Ombudsman option that Faith mentioned - having a dedicated office to handle situations where the normal process isn't working seems like something every taxpayer should know about. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences and strategies here!

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Carmen Lopez

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I went through this exact same situation about 8 months ago with a $3,400 refund held for missing GST returns. The frustration is absolutely real - you feel like you're being punished even though you filed everything as soon as you found out about the issue. What worked for me was a combination of persistence and escalation. I called the Business Enquiries line every Monday morning at exactly 8:00 AM (right when they open) and always asked immediately for a supervisor. The key phrase that got results was asking about "hardship expediting for essential business operations" - I explained that the delay was preventing me from making critical equipment repairs. After three weeks of weekly supervisor calls, I got connected to someone in what she called the "Business Returns Resolution Unit" who had actual authority to flag accounts for priority processing. She was able to see that my GST returns had been processed but the hold release was stuck in their system backlog. She manually expedited it and I had my refund within 8 business days. The documentation aspect people mentioned is crucial - I kept a spreadsheet with every call date, agent name, reference number, and what was promised. When I finally got the helpful supervisor, having all that information ready showed I was serious and had been working through proper channels. Don't give up on the phone approach before trying the Ombudsman route - sometimes you just need to find the right person within CRA who has the tools to actually help. Good luck!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed, actionable advice that's so valuable for people stuck in these situations! The specific timing strategy (calling at 8:00 AM sharp) and the exact phrase "hardship expediting for essential business operations" are the types of insider tips that can make all the difference when dealing with CRA bureaucracy. I love that you kept a detailed spreadsheet of all your interactions - that level of documentation probably helped demonstrate to the supervisor that you were a serious case deserving of escalation rather than just another frustrated caller. The "Business Returns Resolution Unit" sounds like exactly the type of specialized department that can actually solve these problems once you manage to reach them. For Katherine and others in similar situations, Carmen's approach of weekly supervisor calls combined with specific hardship language seems like it could be really effective. The fact that you got results in 8 business days after reaching the right person shows how much of this comes down to finding someone with actual authority to help. Thanks for sharing such a detailed breakdown of what worked!

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Just want to add one more important point that I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you're doing tax-loss harvesting at year end, the trade date rule becomes even more critical. I learned this the hard way when I tried to realize some losses on December 31st to offset my gains, but I forgot about the wash sale rule. Since I had bought the same stock again in early January (thinking it was a new tax year), the IRS treated it as a wash sale because both the sale and repurchase happened within the 30-day window when you count by trade dates. So for anyone doing last-minute tax planning, remember that it's not just about which year your gains/losses fall into - you also need to think about wash sales if you're planning to buy back similar positions early in the new year. The 30-day clock starts ticking from the trade date, not settlement.

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Lucy Taylor

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This is such a crucial point that doesn't get talked about enough! I almost made the exact same mistake last year. Had some losses I wanted to harvest on Dec 30th and was planning to buy back in on Jan 3rd thinking I was safe since it was "next year." Thankfully my tax software flagged it as a potential wash sale when I was doing a practice run. The IRS doesn't care about calendar years when it comes to the wash sale rule - it's strictly about that 30-day window from trade date to trade date. Really glad you mentioned this because it could save someone from an expensive mistake!

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GalacticGuru

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Great discussion here! As someone who got burned by this exact issue a few years back, I can confirm everything said about trade date vs settlement date. One thing I'd add that might help OP and others - if you're using tax software like TurboTax or FreeTaxUSA, they usually have a specific section for "year-end stock transactions" that walks you through this exact scenario. The software will ask you to enter the trade date specifically, not the settlement date. Also, for future reference, if you want to push capital gains into the next tax year, you need to execute the trade in the new year, not just have it settle then. So if you had waited until January 3rd to actually place the sell order (not just let December 30th trade settle), then it would count for next year's taxes. OP, since your trade happened December 30th, you'll definitely need to report that $8,400 gain on this year's return. Might want to start setting aside about 15-20% for capital gains tax depending on your income bracket. Better to be safe than sorry come April!

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Olivia Clark

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm definitely going to start setting aside some money for taxes now rather than waiting. Quick question though - you mentioned 15-20% for capital gains tax. Is that rate the same regardless of how long you held the stock? I held mine for about 9 months, so I'm wondering if that affects the rate at all.

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Great question! Since you held the stock for 9 months, that's considered a short-term capital gain (anything held for less than a year). Short-term gains are taxed as ordinary income, so your rate will depend on your total income and tax bracket - could be anywhere from 10% to 37%. Long-term capital gains (held over a year) get the preferential rates of 0%, 15%, or 20% depending on your income. So unfortunately, your 9-month holding period means you'll likely pay a higher rate than my 15-20% estimate. You might want to budget closer to 22-24% to be safe, especially if you're in a higher income bracket. The exact amount will depend on your other income for the year.

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CyberNinja

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Brady, I'm really sorry to hear about your terrible experience with US Tax Files LLC. This sounds like a complete nightmare, and you have every right to be furious about their incompetence. I've been following this thread and the advice from everyone has been spot-on. I wanted to add one more suggestion that might help speed up the resolution: consider reaching out to your local news station's consumer advocacy segment. Many stations have "Problem Solvers" or similar investigative segments that love stories about tax prep companies taking advantage of people, especially during tax season. These segments often get faster responses from businesses than individual complaints because no company wants negative publicity. I've seen them help people get refunds from bad contractors, car dealers, and yes, tax preparers. Having a local reporter call US Tax Files LLC asking about their pattern of errors might suddenly make them very motivated to fix your situation properly and quickly. You've already got all the documentation you need - the missed education credit, the wrong bank account, the extra fees, their refusal to properly correct the issues. That's a perfect story for consumer advocacy journalism. Plus, it might help warn other people in your area to avoid this company during next tax season. The more attention you can bring to their shoddy practices, the better chance you have of preventing other taxpayers from going through what you're experiencing. Keep fighting - you're doing everything right by holding them accountable!

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That's a brilliant idea about contacting local news consumer advocacy segments! I never would have thought of that approach, but you're absolutely right that businesses tend to respond much faster when there's potential for negative publicity. The pattern of issues with US Tax Files LLC really does sound like something a "Problem Solvers" type segment would be interested in - especially with multiple people in this thread mentioning similar experiences with various tax prep companies. It's clearly a broader consumer protection issue, not just one isolated incident. I love that this approach could also help warn other taxpayers in the area before next tax season. Brady shouldn't have to suffer through this mess just to protect others, but if sharing his story publicly helps prevent more people from getting scammed by incompetent preparers, that's a real silver lining. The documentation Brady has collected sounds perfect for this kind of story - clear evidence of multiple errors, financial impact, and the company's failure to properly resolve their mistakes. That's exactly the kind of concrete evidence that makes for compelling consumer advocacy reporting. Thanks for this creative suggestion! Sometimes the best solutions come from thinking outside the box beyond just filing formal complaints.

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Miguel Ortiz

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Brady, I'm so sorry you're dealing with this mess! Reading through all these responses really highlights how common these issues are with tax prep companies - it's honestly shocking how many people have similar horror stories. I wanted to add one more resource that might help: if US Tax Files LLC is part of a franchise system, you can also file a complaint with the corporate headquarters. Franchisors usually take these complaints seriously because they don't want one bad location damaging their brand reputation. Also, when you're tracking your time spent fixing their mistakes (which several people mentioned - great advice!), don't forget to include things like time spent researching your options, reading IRS forms, and even time spent here getting advice on how to handle the situation. All of that is time you wouldn't have had to spend if they had done their job correctly in the first place. The collective wisdom in this thread is incredible - from the retired tax preparer's technical advice to the suggestions about consumer advocacy journalism. It really shows the power of community support when dealing with incompetent service providers. Hang in there and keep us updated on how things progress. Your experience is helping a lot of people (myself included) make better decisions about tax preparation going forward!

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Yuki Ito

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Miguel, that's a really smart point about checking if US Tax Files LLC is part of a franchise system! I hadn't even thought about that angle, but you're absolutely right that corporate headquarters would be very interested in protecting their brand reputation. That could add serious pressure to get this resolved quickly. Your reminder about tracking ALL time spent is so important too. I've been focused on the obvious stuff like phone calls to the IRS, but you're right that researching solutions, reading forms, and even getting advice here represents real time costs. When I add it all up including everything, I'm probably looking at 25+ hours of my time that should never have been necessary. This whole thread has been incredibly eye-opening about how widespread these problems are with tax prep services. It's both comforting to know I'm not alone in dealing with this kind of incompetence, and really concerning that so many "professionals" are failing at basic aspects of their job. Thanks for the additional suggestions and encouragement! I'll definitely look into the franchise angle and make sure to document every minute I spend on this mess going forward. The support and practical advice from everyone here has been invaluable during a really frustrating situation.

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State tax implications for Master Limited Partnerships (MLPs) - anyone know the rules?

I've been trying to diversify my portfolio and recently started looking into Master Limited Partnerships (MLPs). From what I understand, these are traded like stocks but the partnership itself doesn't pay taxes - instead, earnings and losses get passed to partners via K-1 forms rather than 1099-DIVs. I've been eyeing Energy Transfer (ET) as a potential MLP investment, but I'm confused about the state tax implications. Since MLPs can generate income across multiple states, it seems like this could create a filing nightmare for small investors. A few questions that I can't seem to find clear answers on: 1. If an MLP has a small loss or minimal income apportioned to my state (let's say Virginia), am I really expected to file state taxes there? Does anyone actually do this for just a few dollars of income or loss? 2. Many MLPs seem to structure distributions as return of capital, which lowers your cost basis but isn't immediately taxable until you sell or basis goes negative. Are these distributions treated like regular capital gains at the state level outside your home state? 3. For MLPs in IRAs - I understand there's a $1000 threshold for Unrelated Business Income that triggers taxes. Does the IRA custodian handle all the state filings too? What happens if you have multiple IRAs at different custodians that collectively exceed the threshold? 4. In an IRA, is return of capital considered Unrelated Business Income, or is it untaxed? Investment sites seem to discuss MLPs as if they're straightforward investments, but the tax implications, especially at the state level, seem incredibly complex for individual investors. Anyone have experience with this?

Ethan Clark

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You're absolutely right that the state tax implications for MLPs can be overwhelming for individual investors. I went through this exact situation a few years ago when I started investing in pipeline MLPs. Here's what I learned from experience and working with a tax professional who specializes in MLPs: For your specific questions: 1. Technically yes, you're required to file in states where you have income allocation, but many states have de minimis thresholds (usually $1,000-$2,000) below which filing isn't required. Virginia, for example, has a $300 threshold. Always check each state's specific rules. 2. Return of capital distributions generally follow federal treatment at the state level - they reduce your basis but aren't immediately taxable. However, a few states (like Pennsylvania) have their own rules, so research is crucial. 3. For IRAs, most major custodians will handle 990-T filings when UBTI exceeds $1,000, including state versions. But you're right to be concerned about the aggregate threshold across multiple custodians - this is something you need to monitor yourself and communicate to your custodians. 4. Return of capital itself isn't UBTI, but the underlying business income that generated it might be. My advice: start small with one well-established MLP (like Enterprise Products Partners) to get familiar with the K-1 process before diversifying. The tax complexity is real, but once you understand the workflow, it becomes much more manageable.

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Lauren Wood

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This is really helpful advice, especially about starting with one established MLP first! I'm curious about the de minimis thresholds you mentioned - do these apply even if you have a loss allocated to a particular state? For example, if Energy Transfer had a small loss allocated to, say, Texas, would I still need to file there even though there's no tax liability? And do you happen to know if these thresholds are based on gross income allocation or net tax liability? I'm trying to figure out if I can reasonably invest in MLPs without creating a filing nightmare.

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Liam Duke

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Great question about losses! The de minimis thresholds typically apply to absolute income amounts rather than tax liability, so even losses might technically require filing in some states. However, the practical enforcement varies significantly. For losses specifically, many states don't require filing if your only activity is a small allocated loss from an MLP, especially if it's under their minimum thresholds. But this varies by state - some are more aggressive about requiring filings for any activity, while others focus on positive income. Texas actually doesn't have a state income tax, so Energy Transfer losses allocated there wouldn't create a filing requirement anyway. For states that do have income taxes, I'd recommend checking each state's specific guidance on partnership losses and filing requirements. The thresholds are usually based on gross income allocation rather than net tax liability, but again this varies by state. Some states look at the absolute dollar amount of allocated income/loss, while others have minimum tax thresholds. My practical advice: if you're concerned about filing complexity, consider starting with MLPs that operate primarily in states without income taxes (Texas, Florida, etc.) or those with higher de minimis thresholds. Enterprise Products Partners, for example, has significant Texas operations which simplifies things considerably.

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Ella Cofer

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Having dealt with MLP taxation for several years, I can confirm that the complexity is real but manageable with the right approach. Here are some additional considerations that might help: For Energy Transfer specifically, they typically provide excellent investor relations materials including state-by-state breakdowns that make filing much clearer. They also offer a composite filing service in some states where they handle the filing on behalf of unitholders for a small fee - this can eliminate much of the multi-state headache. Regarding your Virginia question, Virginia has relatively investor-friendly rules with a $300 de minimis threshold, so small allocations likely won't require filing. However, Virginia also allows you to elect composite filing through the MLP in many cases. One strategy I've used successfully is to limit MLP investments to those with significant operations in no-income-tax states (Texas, Florida, Wyoming) or states where I was already filing returns. This dramatically reduces the compliance burden while still allowing access to the sector. For the IRA UBTI issue, I'd strongly recommend setting up a tracking spreadsheet across all your retirement accounts. The $1,000 threshold applies to your total UBTI, not per account, and custodians don't communicate with each other. I learned this the hard way when I had to file amended 990-T forms after discovering I'd exceeded the threshold across multiple accounts. The tax complexity shouldn't necessarily prevent you from investing in MLPs, but it should factor into your position sizing and diversification strategy. Many investors find that 5-10% of their portfolio in MLPs provides good exposure without creating unmanageable tax complexity.

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This is incredibly helpful information! I hadn't heard about the composite filing services that some MLPs offer - that could be a game changer for simplifying the multi-state filing requirements. Do you know if Energy Transfer specifically offers this, or would I need to contact their investor relations to find out? Your point about limiting investments to MLPs with operations in no-income-tax states is really smart. I'm based in Virginia, so focusing on MLPs with Texas/Florida operations would definitely reduce my compliance burden. The IRA tracking spreadsheet idea is brilliant too. I have accounts at both Fidelity and Schwab, so I definitely need to monitor the aggregate UBTI across both. Do you track this monthly, quarterly, or just at year-end? I'm wondering how early in the year you can predict whether you'll hit the $1,000 threshold. Thanks for the practical advice on position sizing - 5-10% seems like a reasonable allocation that provides exposure without creating a tax nightmare. I was initially thinking of going heavier into the sector, but the complexity factor is definitely making me reconsider.

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