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941 vs W2 Gross Wages - Which Box Should Match When Comparing Forms?

Hey everyone, I'm a bit confused about comparing quarterly 941 forms with W2s. When I add up all the quarterly wages (Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4) that were reported on Form 941 for the year, which box on the employee's W2 should this total match up with? I'm trying to reconcile these numbers for our small business and I'm not sure if the 941 quarterly totals should equal Box 1 (wages, tips, other compensation), Box 3 (Social Security wages), or Box 5 (Medicare wages) on the W2. I've been going back and forth on this for hours and getting different answers online. Anyone know the correct answer?

Aisha Mahmood

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The 941 quarterly totals should match Box 5 (Medicare wages) on the W2. Here's why: Form 941 reports total wages subject to Medicare tax each quarter, which has the fewest exemptions of the wage categories. Box 1 on the W2 won't match because it's reduced by pre-tax deductions like health insurance and 401(k) contributions. Box 3 might not match if an employee exceeds the Social Security wage base ($160,200 for 2023, increasing for 2025). Box 5 includes all wages subject to Medicare tax with no ceiling, which is why it should match your 941 totals. If they don't match exactly, check for any taxable fringe benefits, sick pay from third parties, or other adjustments that might be reported differently between the forms.

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Ethan Clark

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Thanks for explaining! So what happens if the Medicare wages on our W2s don't match the 941 totals? We have about a $5,000 difference when I add everything up. Is that something the IRS will flag?

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Aisha Mahmood

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A $5,000 difference is significant enough that you should investigate. The IRS reconciles these numbers and discrepancies can trigger notices or audits. Common causes include: incorrectly reported taxable fringe benefits, third-party sick pay not properly accounted for, or incorrect allocations of tips. Another possibility is timing issues - make sure you're comparing the same time periods exactly. For instance, if you paid wages in December 2024 but didn't issue the checks until January 2025, they belong on different years' forms.

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GalaxyGlider

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Just wanted to add that in some cases Box 3 (Social Security wages) can match your 941 totals UNLESS any employees exceed the Social Security wage base. For 2025, that's expected to be around $168,600 I think? So if none of your employees make over that amount annually, Box 3 and Box 5 should be identical. But Box 5 is always the safest bet for reconciliation since Medicare has no wage ceiling.

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Mei Wong

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What about Box 1 though? I always thought that was supposed to match our 941s, but now I'm confused because it's always lower than our Box 5 amount.

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GalaxyGlider

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Box 1 will almost always be lower than your 941 totals because Box 1 excludes pre-tax deductions like 401(k) contributions, health insurance premiums, HSA contributions, etc. Your 941 reports gross Medicare wages (Box 5 equivalent) before these deductions. This is actually one of the most common reconciliation errors - trying to match Box 1 to your 941 totals. If you have employees with pre-tax benefits, those amounts reduce Box 1 but not Box 5, creating a legitimate difference between the two.

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Liam Sullivan

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Does anyone use QuickBooks for payroll? I'm trying to run the 941 vs W-2 reconciliation report but can't figure out how to get it to show me the comparison by wage type.

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Amara Okafor

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In QuickBooks Desktop Payroll, there's a built-in report called "Payroll Summary" that you can customize to show the different wage categories. For QuickBooks Online, look for "Payroll Tax and Wage Summary" under Reports. You can filter by date range to match your quarters and it breaks down by tax type.

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NightOwl42

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Great question! I've been doing payroll for small businesses for over 8 years and this is one of the most common reconciliation issues I see. The key is understanding that Form 941 reports wages subject to Medicare tax, which should match Box 5 on the W-2. Here's why the other boxes won't match: - Box 1: Excludes pre-tax deductions (401k, health insurance, etc.) so it's typically lower than your 941 totals - Box 3: Has a Social Security wage cap ($160,200 for 2023, $168,600 for 2024) so high earners won't match - Box 5: No wage ceiling and includes all compensation subject to Medicare tax - this is your match! One thing to watch out for: if you have any employees who received taxable fringe benefits (like personal use of company vehicle, group term life insurance over $50k), make sure those are properly included in both your 941s AND Box 5 of their W-2s. That's where I often find discrepancies. If you're still having trouble reconciling, double-check that you're comparing the exact same time periods and that any third-party sick pay is being handled consistently across both forms.

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Omar Hassan

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This is incredibly helpful! I'm new to handling payroll for our family business and have been struggling with this exact reconciliation issue. Your explanation about Box 5 matching the 941 totals makes so much sense now - I was getting confused trying to match Box 1. Quick question: when you mention taxable fringe benefits, does that include things like holiday bonuses or gift cards we give employees? I want to make sure we're reporting everything correctly before we finalize our W-2s.

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