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One important detail I haven't seen mentioned yet - there's a difference between being self-employed and being an S-corp owner who's technically an employee of their own corporation. If you're operating as an S-corp (as you mentioned), technically your corporation would establish an accountable plan that reimburses you, the employee, for travel expenses using the per diem rates. The corporation then deducts these amounts. This is slightly different from how sole proprietors handle it. Just worth noting since your business structure matters for exactly how you implement this.
That's a great point I hadn't thought about. So should I be submitting some kind of expense report to my own S-corp for reimbursement? Or is it enough to just document everything in my company records?
You should definitely be submitting formal expense reports to your S-corp for reimbursement. This creates the proper documentation that shows you're following an "accountable plan" which is critical for this arrangement to work properly with the IRS. The expense report should include the business purpose, dates of travel, locations, and calculation of the per diem amounts based on the State Department rates. Your S-corp should then reimburse you directly for these expenses. In your company records, these would be logged as business travel expenses, and on your personal taxes, the reimbursements wouldn't be considered income since they're under an accountable plan.
Has anyone used H&R Block or TurboTax for situations like this? I'm in a similar situation but don't have an accountant and wondering if the tax software can handle foreign per diem calculations.
I tried using TurboTax for this last year and it was a nightmare. The software doesn't have clear guidance on foreign per diems. I ended up manually calculating everything and entering it as "other business expenses" with detailed notes. Not ideal but it worked.
Don't forget about self-employment tax! That's an extra 15.3% on top of regular income tax for your freelance earnings. That's probably why you're owing $1600 - it's not just income tax. The good news is you can deduct 50% of the self-employment tax on your 1040, which helps a bit. And PLEASE make sure you're tracking all business miles if you ever drive for your freelance work - those add up fast at 65.5 cents per mile for 2023!
Thanks for mentioning this! I had no idea about the self-employment tax being that high. Do I get any credit for the social security/medicare taxes I'm already paying through my W2 job? And for the mileage deduction, does driving to client meetings count?
There's a cap on Social Security tax (not Medicare) - if your W2 job already withholds the max Social Security tax ($9,932 for 2023, which happens at $160,200 of income), then you won't owe additional Social Security tax on your freelance income, just the Medicare portion. Driving to client meetings absolutely counts as deductible business mileage! Keep a log with dates, starting/ending mileage, and purpose of each trip. Commuting to a regular workplace isn't deductible, but since your freelance clients aren't a regular workplace, those trips qualify. You can also deduct trips to buy business supplies, attend work-related conferences, etc.
Pro tip: get a separate credit card just for your business expenses. Makes tracking SOOO much easier at tax time! I did this and it cut my prep time in half.
A quick tip about scholarships and Form 8615 that might help others. Remember that only the TAXABLE portion of scholarships counts toward the $2,600 unearned income threshold. If your child's scholarship money went directly to qualified education expenses (tuition, required fees, books), that portion isn't taxable and doesn't count toward the $2,600. Only amounts used for room, board, or other non-qualified expenses are taxable and count as unearned income for Form 8615 purposes. This distinction helped us avoid having to file Form 8615 for our daughter last year, even though her total scholarship was substantial.
Wait, I thought scholarships used for room and board counted as earned income, not unearned? This is why tax stuff makes my head explode. Can anyone clarify this? I might have filed wrong last year.
That's a common confusion. For general tax purposes, taxable scholarships (amounts used for room, board, etc.) are considered earned income. However, specifically for the Form 8615 "kiddie tax" rules, these same taxable scholarships are counted as unearned income when determining if the child meets the $2,600 threshold. It's frustrating that the same money is classified differently depending on which tax rule you're looking at. For filing requirement purposes, taxable scholarships are earned income, but for kiddie tax purposes, they're unearned income. This dual classification is exactly why so many people get confused about Form 8615.
Has anyone used TurboTax to handle this Form 8615 situation? My daughter has about $3,400 in taxable scholarship money and $700 in interest from her savings account. She worked part-time but made under $10k. We're trying to figure out if the software handles this correctly?
I used TurboTax for my son's return with almost the exact same situation. The software asked if he was required to file (not if he wanted to file, but if he was required). I answered no, and it correctly didn't include Form 8615. Just make sure you answer the "required to file" question accurately based on the thresholds, not based on whether you're actually filing. TurboTax also correctly included the taxable scholarship as income but didn't trigger the kiddie tax form since he wasn't required to file.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you bought the car in a different state with lower sales tax, you might have paid "use tax" to your home state to make up the difference. That use tax is also deductible as part of your sales tax deduction if you itemize. Just be careful not to double-count if you've already included it somewhere else on your return.
Good point! But how would you document that for the IRS? My brother bought a car in Oregon (no sales tax) but had to pay use tax when he registered it in California.
The receipt or documentation from your state's DMV or revenue department when you paid the use tax serves as your documentation. Usually when you register an out-of-state vehicle, they give you a receipt showing the use tax paid - that's what you'd keep for your records. In your brother's California case, the CA DMV would have provided documentation when he registered the vehicle and paid the use tax. That's what he'd need to keep to substantiate the deduction if he itemizes.
Gonna add something important - if you financed the car, only the sales tax you actually paid is deductible in 2023, not the total sales tax on the purchase price. Like if the dealer rolled your sales tax into your financing, you technically haven't paid all that tax yet, only the portion in your payments for 2023.
Ivanna St. Pierre
Another option nobody mentioned is checking if your W2 is available online. A lot of employers use payroll services like ADP, Paychex, or Gusto that let you access your tax documents online even after you leave the company. Try logging into the payroll portal you used when you worked there, or ask a current employee which service they use. Also, if you filed with them last year, sometimes tax preparation services like H&R Block or TurboTax will have your previous W2 information saved in your account that might help with the estimates.
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Elin Robinson
ā¢This is solid advice! My employer uses UltiPro and I was able to log in and download my W2 even though I left the company in November. Totally forgot I had that access.
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Ivanna St. Pierre
ā¢That's great to hear it worked for you! Many people don't realize these payroll portals often maintain your access for a period of time after employment ends, specifically for tax document purposes. If anyone else is trying this method, also check your email for any invitations to these portals when you were hired. Sometimes the login credentials or reset instructions are still valid. Even if your account appears inactive, customer service for these payroll providers can sometimes help former employees access just their tax documents.
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Atticus Domingo
Just a heads up that if it gets too close to the filing deadline and you still don't have your W2, you can always file for an extension using Form 4868. This gives you until October to file your actual return, though you still need to pay any estimated taxes you might owe by the regular deadline. The extension doesn't solve the missing W2 problem, but it gives you more time to get it sorted out without penalty. I had to do this two years ago and eventually got my W2 in June when my old boss finally got around to sending them.
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Beth Ford
ā¢Won't an extension delay my refund though? I'm counting on that money for some bills coming up in March.
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