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As someone who's been through this exact transition, I'd recommend reaching out to firms NOW, even before starting any coursework. You don't need to be an expert to have these conversations - in fact, being upfront about researching your options shows initiative. I called about 8-10 local firms and simply said "I'm an experienced accountant looking to expand into tax preparation and I'm researching education options. Could I ask what software you use and what you look for in part-time tax preparers?" Most were happy to chat for 5-10 minutes. What I discovered completely changed my approach. Three firms in my area use UltraTax, two use Lacerte, one uses Drake, and only one uses ProSeries. If I had gone straight into Intuit Academy without this research, I would have been trained on software that only one local firm actually uses! The conversations also revealed that most firms prefer to train business tax skills in-house but want people who already know their software. This insight led me to focus on software-specific training first, then supplement with business tax theory later. One firm even offered to let me shadow during their next busy season if I completed training on UltraTax beforehand. That single conversation opened a door that wouldn't have existed if I'd just blindly picked a program. Do the market research first - it's absolutely worth the time investment!
This is brilliant advice! I wish I had seen this approach outlined somewhere when I was starting my research. The idea of calling firms to ask about their software preferences before investing in any training program makes so much sense. I'm curious - when you made those calls, did you find that firms were generally receptive to these conversations? I'm a bit nervous about cold-calling accounting firms, especially during what I imagine is their busy season. Is there a particular time of year that would be better for these types of informational conversations? Also, for the firm that offered to let you shadow - did that turn into actual employment, or was it more of an observational learning experience? I'm trying to understand what the typical progression looks like from initial contact to actually getting practical experience preparing business returns.
This entire thread has been incredibly enlightening! As someone who's been wrestling with this exact decision for months, I'm realizing I've been approaching this completely backwards. I was focused on comparing course content and pricing, but Charlee's market research approach is genius. I just spent the morning calling five local firms, and what I learned was eye-opening. Four out of five use Thomson Reuters software (GoSystem or UltraTax), and none of them use Intuit's business tax software! One firm told me they'd actually prefer someone with strong Excel skills and basic tax knowledge over someone trained on the wrong software platform. Another mentioned they have a backlog of simple 1120S returns and would consider part-time help if I could demonstrate competency with their software. This has completely shifted my strategy. Instead of enrolling in either Intuit Academy or H&R Block courses, I'm now looking into Thomson Reuters training programs. It's amazing how 30 minutes of phone calls can save months of studying the wrong material. Thanks especially to Nina for starting this discussion and to everyone who shared their real-world experiences. This is exactly the kind of practical advice you can't get from course websites or marketing materials!
For anyone dealing with this situation, I'd recommend downloading IRS Publication 1494 "The IRS Collection Process" and keeping it handy. It's free on the IRS website and explains exactly how different types of levies work. Section 3 specifically covers Notice of Levy (Form 668-A) and confirms what others have said about it being a one-time seizure of property you have on hand. What really helped me when I dealt with this was creating a timeline showing: (1) when I received the notice, (2) exactly what funds I had for that vendor at that moment, and (3) when I sent the payment. This documentation proved invaluable when our auditor reviewed our files later. One thing to watch out for: make sure you're only withholding funds that actually belong to the taxpayer named in the levy. If you have payments due to a different legal entity (like their LLC vs. personal name), those might not be subject to the levy depending on how it's written.
This is incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation but the vendor name on the levy is slightly different from what we have in our system - it shows "John Smith" but our contracts are with "John Smith Consulting LLC". Should I assume these are the same entity or do I need to verify somehow before withholding? I don't want to accidentally hold funds that aren't subject to the levy.
That's a really important distinction you're catching! The levy is very specific about the taxpayer it applies to. If the notice shows "John Smith" (individual) but your payments are to "John Smith Consulting LLC" (business entity), these are legally separate entities and the levy may not apply to the LLC's funds. However, don't make this determination on your own. You need to contact the IRS immediately using the phone number on the levy notice to clarify whether the levy applies to both the individual and their business, or just the individual. Sometimes the IRS will issue levies that cover related entities, but other times they're very specific to just one taxpayer. Document this call thoroughly - get the agent's name, the date/time, and ask them to note your account that you called to clarify the scope of the levy. This protects you legally regardless of their answer. Better to ask now than face potential liability issues later if you guess wrong.
Just wanted to add something that helped me when I dealt with a similar Notice of Levy situation - make sure you understand the "property in possession" concept clearly. The IRS defines this as money or property that you currently hold that belongs to the taxpayer at the time you receive the levy notice. In my case, we had already cut a check to the vendor but hadn't mailed it yet when we received the 668-A. Our attorney advised that since the check was still in our possession, those funds were subject to the levy. But payments we made after sending in the levy amount were not subject to withholding. Also, keep in mind that interest and penalties can continue to accrue on the taxpayer's debt even after you send in what you withheld. This doesn't affect your obligations, but it's why the vendor should contact the IRS directly to resolve their underlying tax issue rather than just waiting for the levy to be satisfied. One last tip: if you're ever unsure about compliance, err on the side of caution and document everything. The IRS is much more forgiving of businesses that clearly attempted to comply in good faith, even if they made minor procedural errors, than those who ignored the levy entirely.
This is such valuable practical advice! The "property in possession" definition you mentioned is exactly the kind of detail that can make or break compliance. I had no idea that an unmailed check would still be considered "in possession" - that's definitely something to keep in mind. Your point about documenting good faith efforts is reassuring too. It seems like the IRS recognizes that these situations can be confusing for businesses, especially when the forms themselves aren't always crystal clear about the requirements. One question: when you mention that interest and penalties continue to accrue on the taxpayer's debt, does that mean the vendor could potentially owe more than what we're withholding and sending in? Should we be advising them to contact the IRS immediately rather than just letting the levy process play out?
Has anyone used an installment sale to spread out the tax hit? I'm considering selling my small manufacturing business next year and wondered if that approach actually works well in practice.
I did an installment sale for my auto repair shop in 2023. It definitely helped spread the tax burden across multiple years, which kept me from jumping into a much higher bracket. The downside is you're taking on risk if the buyer defaults. Make sure you have rock-solid security agreements in place!
@Yuki Ito - I went through a similar asset sale situation with my electrical contracting business two years ago. One thing that really helped me was getting clarity on the depreciation recapture rules early in the process. Since you mentioned your equipment is mostly depreciated, that's going to be a significant factor. For the $78k in goodwill, that should qualify for capital gains treatment, which is great news for your tax situation. But here's something I learned the hard way - make sure you're accounting for any Section 179 deductions you took on equipment over the years. Those can complicate the recapture calculations. Regarding spreading the tax burden, you might want to explore an installment sale structure if the buyer is open to it. This allows you to recognize the gain over multiple years rather than taking the full hit in the year of sale. However, be aware that depreciation recapture generally has to be recognized in the first year regardless. My advice: don't commit to any purchase price allocation until you've run the numbers on different scenarios. The difference between a smart allocation and a poor one can easily be $15-20k in your situation. Take the extra week to get proper advice - the buyer will understand given the complexity involved.
Just went through ID.me verification two days ago and wanted to share my experience! As someone who's been lurking in this community for a while but never posted, this thread convinced me it was time to contribute. **What I had prepared:** - The IRS letter with verification code (kept it right next to my computer) - Current driver's license - Social Security number on a piece of paper - My tablet with full battery (found the larger screen easier than my phone) - Set up at my home office desk with good overhead lighting **My actual experience:** Total time was about 29 minutes, which included me double-checking everything multiple times! The automated system worked smoothly - no video chat required. The facial recognition worked perfectly on the first try, probably because I followed everyone's advice here about proper lighting and distance. **What really stood out:** - The process felt much more secure and professional than I expected - Clear progress indicators showed exactly where I was in the verification - Error messages were actually helpful when I initially uploaded a slightly blurry photo - The confirmation email arrived within minutes of completion Giovanni, reading through your original question and everyone's responses has been so helpful! Your cautious approach is exactly right. After going through it myself, I can say this community's advice was spot-on - being prepared and taking your time makes all the difference. The horror stories really are the exception, not the rule. You'll do great! š Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here - it made my verification process so much less stressful knowing what to expect!
Just completed my ID.me verification this week and wanted to add my experience to this fantastic thread! As a newcomer who was initially intimidated by the whole process, reading everyone's detailed experiences here made all the difference. **What I gathered beforehand:** - The IRS verification letter with code (absolutely essential!) - Current driver's license - Social Security number written down clearly - My smartphone with full charge - Set up at my kitchen counter with excellent natural lighting from a large window **My actual experience:** The entire process took about 26 minutes from start to finish. Like so many others here, the automated system handled everything perfectly - no video chat needed! The facial recognition worked on the first attempt, thanks to following all the lighting and distance advice shared in this thread. **Key takeaways:** - The interface was surprisingly user-friendly and intuitive - Email confirmations at each step provided great reassurance - The system gives helpful feedback if photos need to be retaken - Doing it mid-morning on a weekday felt like the right timing Giovanni, your instinct to prepare thoroughly before starting is absolutely perfect! After reading this entire discussion and experiencing it myself, I can confidently say the preparation advice everyone shared here is gold. The horror stories really are outliers - when you have everything ready and approach it calmly, it's actually quite straightforward. This community's willingness to share practical, real-world experiences has been incredible. Thanks to everyone who took the time to help fellow members feel more confident about this process! š
@c5679417409f Thank you so much for sharing your recent experience! As someone who just discovered this thread today, I'm absolutely amazed by how helpful and detailed everyone's responses have been. Your 26-minute timeline and successful first-attempt facial recognition really add to the consistent pattern of positive experiences when people are well-prepared. I love that you mentioned following the lighting and distance advice from this thread - it's incredible how practical tips from real users can make such a difference compared to just reading official instructions. The detail about mid-morning weekday timing is also really valuable. Giovanni, I know you started this conversation, but as someone who was also feeling anxious about this ID.me verification process, this entire discussion has been absolutely transformative! Reading through everyone's step-by-step experiences, timing advice, and preparation tips has changed this from something I was dreading into something that feels totally manageable. The consistency of positive outcomes when people are prepared, the realistic 25-30 minute timeframes, and everyone's encouraging tone has given me the confidence to finally tackle this myself. This is exactly the kind of supportive community discussion that makes government processes feel less intimidating. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - you've all been incredibly generous with your time and advice! š
Giovanni Rossi
5 I messed up my backdoor Roth reporting last year and had to file an amended return. Make sure you keep track of your "basis" in the Traditional IRA across multiple years if you do this annually. Also, TurboTax really struggled with this - had to manually override some calculations.
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Giovanni Rossi
ā¢10 Which tax software handles backdoor Roth the best? I used H&R Block last year and it was confusing.
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Chloe Robinson
ā¢FreeTaxUSA has been pretty solid for backdoor Roth reporting in my experience. It handles Form 8606 well and asks the right questions to walk you through the process. Much better than some of the bigger names that seem to get confused by the non-deductible contribution part. The interface isn't as fancy but it gets the job done correctly, which is what matters for this type of situation.
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Kayla Morgan
Great question about backdoor Roth reporting! I went through this exact same confusion last year. You're absolutely right that you need Form 8606 - that's the key form you'll fill out yourself to report the non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution. Fidelity won't send you a separate form for that initial contribution, which is why you only got the 1099-R. Here's what I learned: Form 8606 Part I is where you'll report your $6,500 non-deductible contribution, and Part II handles the conversion to Roth. Since you converted right away with no earnings, the taxable portion should be zero. Just make sure to keep good records of your basis for future years if you plan to do this annually. One tip - double-check that you don't have any other Traditional, SEP, or SIMPLE IRA balances anywhere else, as those would affect the pro-rata calculation and make part of your conversion taxable. The IRS looks at all your IRA accounts combined when calculating the taxable portion.
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Oliver Schmidt
ā¢This is really helpful, thank you! I'm new to this whole backdoor Roth process and was getting overwhelmed by all the different forms. Your explanation about Form 8606 Parts I and II makes it much clearer. Quick question - when you mention keeping good records of basis for future years, what exactly should I be documenting? Just the contribution amounts each year, or is there other information I need to track?
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