


Ask the community...
Just wanted to share my experience - I was in a similar situation with unfiled 2017 taxes. When I finally filed, I actually got a REFUND because I had overpaid through withholding, and the IRS doesn't penalize for late filing if they owe YOU money. Might not be your situation since you said you owed, but it's worth checking. Also, the IRS offers something called "First Time Penalty Abatement" that might help reduce some of the penalties if you've had a good compliance history before this. It won't help with the interest, but it could knock off some of the failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties.
How do you apply for that First Time Penalty Abatement thing? Is it automatic or do you have to specifically request it? And what counts as "good compliance history"?
You need to specifically request First Time Penalty Abatement - it's not automatic. You can do this after you file the late return and receive a bill. Call the IRS using the number on your bill and specifically ask for "First Time Penalty Abatement" for your 2019 taxes. For "good compliance history," the IRS generally looks for no penalties in the prior three years and that you've filed all required returns and paid (or arranged to pay) any tax due. So if you didn't have issues with 2016, 2017, and 2018 taxes, you might qualify. Even if you're not sure you qualify, it's worth asking - the worst they can say is no.
Just curious - has the IRS contacted you at all about the unfiled taxes in these 4+ years? I'm surprised they haven't sent notices or letters.
I'm not OP, but I had a similar situation with unfiled 2018 taxes, and the IRS didn't contact me until almost 3 years later. With COVID, they got super backlogged. When they finally did reach out, the penalties had piled up like crazy.
Just wanted to add a specific technical detail that might help: When you have a 1099-Q, the issuer sends the same information to the IRS. However, they don't report HOW the money was used. It's your responsibility to document that the funds were used for qualified education expenses. Make sure you're keeping receipts for tuition, books, required supplies, etc. If you ever get audited, you'll need to prove the money went to qualified expenses. The 1098-T from the school helps, but it may not show everything (like books purchased from the campus bookstore). Also, remember that room and board can be qualified expenses too if the student is enrolled at least half-time!
Does internet service count as a qualified expense? My son lives off campus and needs internet for his classes but I'm not sure if that's covered.
Internet service is a bit of a gray area. If your son lives off-campus, internet service would generally be considered a qualified expense ONLY if it's required for enrollment or courses at the educational institution. If the school requires students to have internet access to complete coursework or access required materials, then it would likely qualify. It's best to get documentation from the school stating this requirement if possible.
The way I fixed this issue last year was to make sure I entered the 1098-T BEFORE entering the 1099-Q in my tax software. For some reason, the order matters!
Is anyone else using TaxSlayer for their business? I can't seem to find where to file the extension in their system and their customer service wait time is over an hour right now.
I used TaxSlayer for my S-Corp last year. In the business version, look under the "Filing" menu and there should be an option for "Extensions" or "File Extension." It's not super obvious, but it's definitely there. If you can't find it, try going through the process as if you're going to file your return, and there should be an option somewhere that says something like "I'm not ready to file" which takes you to the extension option.
Don't forget state extensions too! Depending on your state, you might need to file a separate extension for state taxes. Some states automatically grant extensions if you get a federal one, but others require their own filing. Got burned by this in California last year with my business.
Oh man, I didn't even think about state extensions! I'm in Texas so I think I'm ok on state income tax, but I'll double check about franchise tax requirements. Thanks for bringing this up - these small details are exactly what I was worried about missing.
I hate to be "that person," but I think everyone's missing the forest for the trees here. The mileage to grandma's house is personal, period. And even the library miles are questionable at best. Think about it: if you decided to work at Starbucks instead of at home because you like their coffee, would those miles be deductible? No. You've chosen to work somewhere else for personal preference. The IRS specifically states that commuting miles aren't deductible, even with a home office. What you're describing is essentially a daily commute to a regular workplace (the library). The fact that you're dropping kids off first doesn't change the nature of the trip. I'd be very careful about claiming these. The home office deduction already raises audit flags - adding questionable mileage could make it worse.
I appreciate the perspective, but I think there's a difference between choosing Starbucks for their coffee (personal preference) versus needing an alternative workspace because my home office becomes unusable during certain hours due to childcare issues. It's not preference - it's necessity for my business operations. From what others have shared and my research, it seems like the library miles might qualify under the "temporary work location" rule, especially since I don't go to the same library every time and the trips aren't daily. But I'll definitely make sure to document the business necessity carefully.
I see your point about necessity vs. preference, which is fair. The temporary work location rule might apply, but remember it's usually meant for places you don't visit regularly. If you're going to the same library multiple times a week, the IRS might view it as a regular workplace. My suggestion would be to document extensively why your home office was unusable on specific dates (maybe keep a log of when kids are home and why you needed to work elsewhere) and be prepared to demonstrate the business necessity. The conservative approach would be to not claim the library miles, but if you do, make sure your documentation is rock solid.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned - are you stopping anywhere else between dropping the kids off and going to the library? Because any personal stops would make the entire trip personal. Also, how many days a week do you do this? If it's more than 1-2 times weekly to the same library, the IRS might consider that a regular workplace, not a temporary location. My accountant told me the safest approach is to only deduct miles when: 1. You're driving directly from home office to client/vendor 2. You're doing business errands (bank, post office, supplies) 3. You're visiting truly temporary locations (like one-time meetings) The library situation is definitely in a gray area!
I track my business mileage with MileIQ and it shows you a map of your route. It might help prove you went straight from grandparents to library without personal stops. It's like $6/month but worth it for the peace of mind during tax time.
Brooklyn Knight
One important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet is retirement planning! I kept my LLC as a pass-through entity for the first two years, but when I switched to S-Corp taxation, I was able to set up a Solo 401(k) that allowed for MUCH higher retirement contributions than what I could do as a sole proprietor. With an S-Corp, you can contribute both as the employee (up to $22,500 in 2023) AND as the employer (up to 25% of your salary). This became a huge tax advantage for me once my business was profitable enough. Something to consider in your long-term planning!
0 coins
Owen Devar
ā¢But can't you set up a Solo 401(k) with a pass-through LLC too? I thought the entity type didn't matter for retirement plans, just whether you have employees or not.
0 coins
Brooklyn Knight
ā¢You're absolutely right - I wasn't clear in my explanation. You can definitely set up a Solo 401(k) with a pass-through LLC. The distinction is more about how the contribution limits work. With pass-through taxation, your contributions are limited based on your net self-employment income, and you're essentially wearing both the employer and employee hat on the same income. With S-Corp taxation, because you're paying yourself a formal salary, the calculation can sometimes work out more favorably for maximizing contributions, especially as your business becomes more profitable. It allows for a cleaner separation between salary (which determines employee contributions) and business profits (which determine employer contributions).
0 coins
Daniel Rivera
Has anyone else's accountant told them to just stay as a pass-through LLC until hitting a specific profit threshold? Mine said not to worry about S-corp election until I'm consistently making $80k+ in profit. She said the extra accounting fees and payroll costs would eat up any tax savings before that point.
0 coins
Sophie Footman
ā¢My accountant gave me the same advice but with $100k as the threshold. I elected S-corp status too early (at around $70k profit) and ended up paying about $1,800 more in accounting/payroll services than I saved in taxes that year. Lesson learned!
0 coins
Daniel Rivera
ā¢Thanks for sharing your experience. That makes me feel better about my decision to stay as a pass-through for now. I'm hoping to hit that $80k threshold within the next two years, but until then, I'll keep things simple. Did you find the transition to S-corp status complicated when you did make the switch?
0 coins