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Just to add another perspective on QBI - remember that if your taxable income is below the thresholds mentioned above, the calculation becomes MUCH simpler. You just take 20% of your qualified business income without worrying about all the W-2 wage limitations or specified service business rules. Also, many states don't conform to the federal QBI deduction rules, so don't assume you get the same benefit on your state taxes. Here in California, for example, we don't get the QBI deduction at all on our state returns.
What about retirement contributions? Do those reduce your qualified business income? I contribute to a SEP IRA and I'm wondering if that affects my QBI calculation.
Retirement contributions like SEP IRA, Solo 401(k), or SIMPLE IRA contributions do not directly reduce your QBI. These deductions are taken "above the line" on your personal tax return, but QBI is calculated at the business level before these personal deductions. However, retirement contributions do lower your overall taxable income, which can be beneficial if you're near the QBI phase-out thresholds. By reducing your taxable income through retirement contributions, you might avoid or reduce the phase-out limitations on your QBI deduction, potentially making more of your business income eligible for the full 20% deduction.
Anyone else confused about how to handle the QBI deduction with multiple businesses? I have a consulting LLC (which is an SSTB) and a separate rental property LLC. Do I aggregate them or keep them separate for QBI? Using TurboTax and it's super unclear.
22 Make sure you're keeping ALL your receipts for anything remotely related to your business! I learned the hard way that you can deduct things like: - Portion of internet/phone if used for business - Home office space if used regularly and exclusively for business - Shipping materials - Website hosting - Advertising costs Also track mileage if you're driving to post office or buy supplies. The IRS loves documentation so save everything!
17 Quick question - for the home office deduction, does it matter if the space is also sometimes used for other things? Like, I have a desk where I package all my items, but sometimes my kids do homework there too.
22 For the home office deduction, the space needs to be used "regularly and exclusively" for business purposes to qualify. If your kids are doing homework at the same desk, unfortunately that area wouldn't qualify for the deduction since it's not exclusively business use. However, you might be able to claim a portion of your utilities, internet, and phone as business expenses based on the percentage used for business activities without taking the formal home office deduction. Just make sure you can reasonably justify the business percentage you're claiming if ever questioned.
2 anyone know if theres a minimum amount before u need to report this kinda stuff? like what if u only made like $500 selling things online? do u still gotta do all this tax stuff??
5 Technically, the IRS requires you to report ALL income, regardless of the amount. There's no minimum threshold for self-employment income. If you earned $500 from your side business, you should report it. That said, self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare) only kicks in when your net earnings are $400 or more. But income tax could still apply to amounts less than that, depending on your overall tax situation.
Just to add another perspective - I was in a similar situation two years ago. One important thing no one's mentioned is that if you owned the LLC before becoming a US resident, make sure you're properly documenting the basis in the entity as of your residency date. This becomes super important if you later sell the foreign LLC or take distributions. I'd recommend getting a formal valuation of the entity as of your US residency date so you have documentation of your starting basis.
That's a great point I hadn't considered. Do you know if there's a specific form or method for documenting the basis value as of my residency date? Did you use a particular service for your valuation?
There's no specific IRS form for documenting your starting basis, but you should create your own detailed records. I used a business valuation service in my home country that was familiar with US tax requirements. They produced a comprehensive report that I keep with my tax records. The method used depends on your business type - for my service-based LLC, they used a multiple of earnings approach. For businesses with more assets, they might use different methods. The key is having a defensible, third-party valuation you can produce if ever questioned. It cost me about $1,500 but was absolutely worth it for the peace of mind.
Has anyone used TurboTax for filing these forms? Their website says they support 5471 but I'm wondering if it can handle the dual status resident situation properly.
I tried TurboTax last year for my 5471 with dual status and it was a disaster. The software doesn't really handle the dual status situation well with foreign entities. It kept trying to report my full-year income even though I clearly indicated my residency date. I ended up having to use a tax professional instead.
One thing no one's mentioned yet - your brother should check if he's even required to file! The filing threshold depends on whether he's claimed as a dependent on someone else's return. If your parents claim him as a dependent and he only earned $7,500 with no other income types, he might not be legally required to file. But if he had federal taxes withheld from his paychecks, he should still file to get that money back.
Thank you for bringing this up! My parents do still claim him as a dependent. But he definitely had taxes taken out of his checks - I remember him complaining about it lol. So even if he's not required to file, he'd basically be giving free money to the government by not filing, right?
Exactly right! Even if he's not legally required to file, any federal income tax withheld from his paychecks is essentially an interest-free loan to the government. Filing would get that money returned to him. At $7,500 income as a dependent, he'd likely get most or all of his federal withholding back as a refund. Many young workers don't realize they're leaving hundreds of dollars on the table by not filing. Plus, getting into the habit of filing annually is a good practice for his financial future.
Just to add something important - if your brother is expecting a refund (which is likely), there's actually NO PENALTY for filing late! The IRS only penalizes people who owe money and file late. He has 3 years from the original due date to claim a refund. So for 2022 taxes, he has until April 2026 to file and still get his money. For 2023 taxes, he'll have until April 2027.
Aileen Rodriguez
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - keep an eye on the date on that second notice. The IRS often sends out notices that were generated BEFORE they processed your payment. So check the date on the notice - it might have been created/mailed before your payment was fully processed, even though you received it afterward. Also, did you make the payment directly to the specific tax year and form? Sometimes people just make a general payment and it doesn't get applied correctly.
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Natalia Stone
ā¢Thanks for bringing this up! I checked and the second notice is dated about 3 weeks after my payment was processed. So unfortunately it's not just a timing issue. And yes, I specifically selected tax year 2018 Form 1040 when making the payment online - I was very careful about that since I didn't want any mix-ups. I think what might have happened is that the payment went through but wasn't applied to the specific CP22A balance. Maybe it was applied to the original tax liability but not to the additional assessment? The whole thing is so confusing and there's no way to check exactly where the payment was applied online.
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Aileen Rodriguez
ā¢That's definitely more concerning then. You're probably right about the payment being misapplied within the same tax year. The IRS has different "buckets" for different types of assessments, even within the same tax year. When you do manage to speak with someone (either through regular calls or using one of the services mentioned above), specifically ask them to check ALL modules for tax year 2018 to locate your payment. Make sure they know it was in response to a CP22A so they can properly apply it to the additional assessment rather than just the original tax liability. Be sure to have your payment confirmation number handy when you call. That's the fastest way for them to trace where your money actually went in their system.
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Zane Gray
Has anyone mentioned checking your tax transcript? You can get it online through the IRS website and it sometimes shows more details than the account summary. It might show your payment and where it was applied.
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Maggie Martinez
ā¢This is great advice. The transcript will show all transactions for the tax year including payments, assessments, penalties, and interest calculations. Look for transaction code 670 which indicates a payment was received and applied. The date and amount should match your payment.
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