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Just to add on to what others have said, the Schedule 1 - Additional Income and Adjustments to Income situation applies to physical tax preparation services too. I used H&R Block for years and this year they charged me an extra $45 for "additional schedules" which was just Schedule 1 for my student loan interest. I complained and the preparer basically admitted it was a new pricing policy. They know they can charge more because most people don't understand tax forms enough to question it. Next year I'm using one of the alternatives mentioned here. The pricing has gotten ridiculous for what are basically simple forms.
This happened at Jackson Hewitt too! They wanted $89 more for my "complex return" which was literally just Schedule 1 for student loan interest and an HSA contribution. When I questioned it, they said "additional schedules require additional processing.
I'm dealing with the exact same Schedule 1 - Additional Income and Adjustments to Income issue with TaxAct! They want $95 extra just because I have student loan interest to deduct. What's really annoying is that I called their customer service and they basically admitted this is a new pricing strategy - they moved common forms like Schedule 1 to higher tiers because they know people will pay rather than start over with a different service. After reading through all these comments, I'm definitely switching to FreeTaxUSA next year. It's ridiculous that tax software companies are nickel-and-diming us for basic forms that most working people need. Schedule 1 isn't some exotic tax situation - it covers things like student loans, HSAs, and small side incomes that are super common nowadays. Thanks everyone for the alternatives and explanations. This thread probably saved me from paying that ridiculous upgrade fee!
my brother works at the irs and says theyre backed up like crazy rn. might take longer than usual tbh
This exact thing happened to me last year! Don't stress too much - the bank will definitely reject the deposit and send it back to the IRS. In my case, it took about 3 weeks for the bank to process the rejection, then another 4-5 weeks for the IRS to mail me a paper check. The whole process was around 7-8 weeks total. Make sure your mailing address is current with the IRS because that's where they'll send the check. You can also call the IRS refund hotline to confirm they received the rejection from your bank, though expect long wait times. Hang in there - you'll get your money!
Have you checked if the IRS tried to direct deposit your refund? In my experience, they usually try to refund using the same method you paid with. Since one payment came from your checking and one from savings, maybe check both accounts for a deposit around the same amount? Also, the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool might show the status, although it can be hit or miss for situations like this.
I've checked both accounts multiple times and there's definitely no refund deposit. I also tried the "Where's My Refund" tool but it only shows info for regular tax refunds, not for overpayments like this. Seems like they're just holding onto my money at this point!
Sorry to hear that. In that case, you definitely need to speak directly with an IRS representative. Since it's been over 6 months, you might also consider contacting the Taxpayer Advocate Service - they're designed to help with situations where normal IRS processes aren't working. If you filed electronically, another option is to check with the tax software company you used. Sometimes they can provide insight into payment processing issues, especially if you used their payment processing service.
Just a quick tip - if you're having trouble getting your refund, make sure to request interest! The IRS is required to pay interest on overpayments after 45 days. At current rates that's like 7% annual interest, so for your $1215 over 7 months that's around $50 extra you should get.
Is that really true? I had no idea the IRS paid interest on money they owe you. I thought it only worked the other way around (we pay them interest on late payments).
Yes, that's absolutely true! Under IRC Section 6611, the IRS is required to pay interest on overpayments starting 45 days after the later of: (1) the due date of the return, or (2) the date the return was filed. The current rate is around 7% annually, so definitely mention this when you contact them about your refund. It's one of those things they don't automatically tell you about, but you're entitled to it by law.
lol y'all are overthinking this. if my server doesn't have to pay taxes on tips, I'm still tipping the same 20% cause its not their fault the tax code is messed up. us working folks gotta stick together instead of fighting over scraps.
The problem is when the playing field isn't level. Why should I tip 20% knowing that money is tax-free when I'm paying taxes on every dollar I earn? It's not about workers fighting each other, it's about fairness in the system.
I think there's a bigger picture here that we're missing. The real issue isn't whether tips should be tax-free or not - it's that we have a broken system where service workers are forced to rely on the generosity of customers to make a living wage in the first place. In most other developed countries, servers get paid a proper wage and tips are truly optional. The fact that we're debating tax policy around tips shows how backwards our approach to worker compensation has become. Whether tips are taxed or not, restaurants should be paying their employees enough to live on without depending on tips. That said, until we fix the underlying wage structure, I'd still tip normally regardless of the tax implications. The server didn't choose this system and they still need to pay rent and buy groceries. But maybe this conversation about tip taxes will finally push us toward addressing the real problem - poverty wages in the service industry.
Gabriel Graham
I qualified for ERC based on the government orders test for my restaurant, and the IRS has already processed and paid my claim. The key was having extremely solid documentation. I kept copies of: 1. All state and local orders that affected my business 2. Written explanations of exactly how each order impacted operations 3. Capacity calculations showing more than 10% reduction 4. Financial records showing the impact The companies pushing "easy qualification" often skip this documentation step, which is exactly what triggers audits. If you can't clearly demonstrate and document the impact, you probably don't qualify.
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Drake
ā¢Did you file yourself or use a service? I'm trying to figure out if I should amend the returns myself or hire someone. My bookkeeper says she can do it but I'm worried about getting it wrong.
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Aisha Patel
As someone who went through a similar situation with aggressive ERC marketing calls, I'd strongly recommend being extremely cautious. I run a small medical practice and got the same types of calls claiming I qualified for quarters I hadn't considered. The red flag for me was when these companies couldn't provide specific documentation about which government orders affected my practice or exactly how they calculated the "more than nominal" impact. They kept giving vague answers about "operational restrictions" without being able to quantify the actual impact on my business. I ended up doing my own research and found that while we did have some COVID-related operational changes (temperature checks, increased cleaning, etc.), these didn't actually reduce our patient capacity or service delivery by the required 10% threshold. The extra 10-15 minutes between appointments for cleaning protocols was inconvenient but didn't materially impact our ability to serve patients. The fact that your accountant isn't familiar with these "alternative qualification methods" isn't necessarily a red flag about your accountant - it might be a red flag about the methods themselves. Most legitimate CPAs are very familiar with both the gross receipts test and the government orders test for ERC qualification. Given that you've already claimed ERC for the quarters where you clearly qualified, I'd recommend sticking with that unless you can document a clear, measurable impact from government orders that reduced your operational capacity by at least 10%. The audit risk just isn't worth it for questionable claims.
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