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Does anyone know if scholarships count as "income earned in a state"? I get a scholarship from my home state (Ohio) but attend school in Pennsylvania. Not sure how to report this on state returns.
Great question! Scholarships are treated differently than earned income. If your scholarship is tax-free (used for qualified education expenses like tuition and required books), it's not reported as income on any state return. If part of your scholarship is taxable (used for room and board, for example), it's generally considered income in your state of residency, not the state that provided the scholarship. So in your case, if you're a Pennsylvania resident for tax purposes (which most full-time students are for their school state), any taxable portion of your scholarship would be reported on your PA return, even though the scholarship came from Ohio.
Lol I'm in the same boat but more complicated - I'm from California, go to school in Massachusetts, did a summer internship in New York, AND did some online freelance work while traveling in Europe for 3 weeks. My tax situation is a complete disaster this year š
Omg that sounds like a nightmare! Have you figured out how to handle it? I'm stressed just about my two states!
It's been... a process lol. I ended up paying for a consultation with an accountant who specializes in multi-state issues. Definitely worth the $150 for the peace of mind. He said I need to file: - Resident return for Massachusetts (my tax home as a student) - Non-resident returns for California and New York - And the freelance income gets reported on all three (but with credits to avoid triple taxation) The European travel didn't matter tax-wise since I wasn't there long enough to trigger any foreign filing requirements. My advice: if you have more than 2 states, just pay a professional. The stress reduction is worth it!
Something nobody's mentioned yet - have you looked into a 401k LOAN instead of a withdrawal? Usually you can borrow up to 50% of your balance (max $50k) and then repay it over time with interest (which goes back into your own account). The huge advantage is avoiding taxes and penalties completely since it's not considered a distribution. Not a perfect solution since you'd need to make regular repayments, but might be worth considering for part of what you need if cash flow allows. If your husband's plan allows it, of course.
We did look into the loan option initially, but the problem is the repayment terms. His employer requires loan repayments through payroll deductions, and with the ongoing care costs for my mom, we can't afford the biweekly payment amount they calculated. Also, they only allow loans up to $50k, and we unfortunately need more than that to handle the facility's upfront payment and still keep our mortgage current. But you're right that it's definitely something others should consider in similar situations where the amount needed is lower or the repayment would be manageable.
Just sharing my experience - I withdrew from my 401k last year for an emergency home repair. The 20% federal withholding happened automatically. But what nobody told me was that I also had to make quarterly estimated tax payments because the withholding wasn't enough to cover my full tax liability. Make sure you talk to a tax professional about whether you need to submit estimated payments during the year, especially if the withdrawal pushes you into a much higher tax bracket. I got hit with an underpayment penalty because I didn't know this.
Pro tip: Avoid MLPs in your regular brokerage account if you hate tax complications. I learned this the hard way. If you want to invest in energy stocks without the K-1 headache, look for energy companies structured as C-corps or consider ETFs that hold MLPs, as they issue 1099s instead of K-1s. Some good alternatives are tickers like XLE (Energy Select Sector SPDR Fund) or AMLP (Alerian MLP ETF) - both give you exposure to the energy sector but issue a simple 1099 instead of a K-1. Your future self will thank you next tax season!
Are there any disadvantages to holding MLP ETFs instead of the MLPs directly? I know MLPs have some tax advantages with distributions often being partially tax-deferred return of capital.
Yes, there's definitely a trade-off. When you own an MLP directly, a significant portion of distributions is often classified as return of capital, which isn't immediately taxable (it just lowers your cost basis). That tax deferral benefit is one of the main advantages of MLPs. When you own an MLP ETF, it's structured differently for regulatory reasons. The fund itself pays corporate taxes on the MLP income before distributing to you, which creates some tax inefficiency. So while you avoid the K-1 hassle with an ETF, you potentially give up some of the tax advantages that make MLPs attractive in the first place.
Just a heads up that if you end up with lots of K-1s, Turbotax Deluxe won't cut it. You'll need to upgrade to Premier at minimum, and possibly Self-Employed if you have other business stuff. I found this out the hard way last year and had to pay more to upgrade mid-filing. Super annoying.
Does TaxAct or H&R Block handle K-1s better? I've been using TurboTax but I'm getting tired of their upsells every time something slightly complicated comes up on my return.
In my experience, library tax preparers through VITA are great, but sometimes they might enter the wrong bank info or miss something small that delays things. Did they give you a copy of your return? Double-check that your direct deposit info is correct. If there's an error with routing or account numbers, that could really delay things. Also, if your return includes certain credits like Earned Income Credit or Additional Child Tax Credit, the IRS legally can't issue your refund before mid-February, no matter when you filed.
Shoot, I didn't even think to check that! Just looked at my paperwork and everything seems correct with my banking details. They did claim the education credit for my online classes last year, but no EIC or child credits. I'm gonna try that Where's My Refund tool tonight when I get home.
That's good that your banking info is correct! The education credits shouldn't cause any special delays like the EIC or ACTC would. Definitely use the Where's My Refund tool - it'll at least tell you if your return has been received and accepted, which is the first step. Don't worry too much yet - 4 days is really early in the process. Most people I've worked with (I volunteer with VITA too) see their refunds within 2-3 weeks for straightforward returns. It's only been a few business days since Saturday!
Has anyone tried using TurboTax to track refunds? Their app has some kind of refund tracking feature but I'm not sure if it's any better than the IRS site.
Carmen Ortiz
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if you selected "Student" on your W-4 form. This is a common mistake that can cause underwithholding. Being a student doesn't automatically change your tax withholding - in fact, there's no checkbox for "student" on the W-4 at all! Also, at your income level (~$115k), you're in a higher tax bracket than you might realize. The education credits like American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit start phasing out at incomes over $80k for single filers. Your education expenses might not be giving you as much tax benefit as you expect. I'd recommend running a "paycheck checkup" using the IRS withholding calculator and then submitting a fresh W-4 to your payroll department. Make sure to check Box 2 if you have multiple jobs, and consider adding an additional dollar amount to withhold on Line 4(c).
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MidnightRider
ā¢This is so helpful! I had no idea the education credits phase out at higher incomes. Is there any way to still benefit from education expenses if you're above the income limits? I'm in a similar situation making around $105k and taking night classes.
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Carmen Ortiz
ā¢There are still some options available even above the phase-out limits. While the American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit may not be available at your income level, you might qualify for the Tuition and Fees Deduction, which has higher income limits. Another option to consider is whether your education might qualify as a work-related education expense, which could potentially be deductible as an employee business expense in some situations. The rules are strict though - the education must be required by your employer or by law to maintain your current position, or it must maintain or improve skills needed in your current job.
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Andre Laurent
have you checked if ur employer is taking out state taxes correctly too? i had a similar issue and turned out my employer was withholding for the wrong state (i live near a state border and work remotely). ended up owing federal AND state taxes, it was a mess š© when i finally figured it out i had to fill out a new w4 AND a state withholding form. my paycheck went down by like $200 but at least i wont owe a huge amount next year lol
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Zara Ahmed
ā¢I didn't even think about that! I live in Illinois but my company is based in Wisconsin. I'll definitely check my state withholding too. How bad was the hit when you fixed both state and federal withholding? I'm worried about my take-home pay dropping too much all at once.
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