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Looking at my 2022 Form 8812, I notice there are two parts - one for the "regular" Child Tax Credit and another for the Credit for Other Dependents. Did you check both sections? Sometimes people miss that they might qualify for the $500 Credit for Other Dependents for family members who don't qualify for the full CTC. Also, did you account for any advance CTC payments you might have received in 2021? Those would have reduced your 2022 credit if you didn't pay them back.
I did check both parts, and all of our kids were qualifying children under 17, so we didn't have any "other dependents" to claim. And we didn't receive any advance payments in 2021 that would affect the 2022 return - we actually opted out of those. What's confusing me is that with 4 kids, we should have gotten the full $8,000 ($2,000 Ć 4), but when I look at the actual credit amount on our Form 1040, it's significantly less. I'm wondering if maybe our tax software or preparer made a calculation error on Form 8812.
In that case, I would recommend looking specifically at the calculations on Form 8812, particularly around the refundable portion. For 2022, the refundable portion was limited to 15% of your earned income above $2,500. So if somehow your "earned income" was calculated incorrectly (which is different from AGI), that could limit the refundable portion. Another thing to check is if you had any other non-refundable credits that used up your tax liability, potentially limiting how much of the non-refundable portion of the CTC you could use.
Has anyone used TurboTax to amend a return for this specific issue? I think I might be in the same boat with my 2022 taxes and wondering if their amendment process is straightforward.
I used TurboTax to amend my 2022 return specifically for Form 8812 issues. It was pretty simple - they walk you through which forms need to be changed and calculate everything for you. Just make sure you have a copy of your original return handy because you'll need to enter some of the original information first before making changes.
The IRS publication about this (Pub 970) actually explains it but in the most confusing way possible lol. For AOTC, you can claim it for only 4 tax years, AND you have to be in one of the first 4 years of your post-secondary education program. So if you took 5 years to complete a 4-year bachelor's program, you can only get AOTC for the first 4 years. For year 5, you'd need to switch to the Lifetime Learning Credit.
I thought it was just 4 years total regardless of what "year" you're in academically? My advisor told me as long as you haven't claimed it 4 times already you can still get it.
Your advisor is partially right, but there's more to it. You can claim AOTC for up to 4 tax years, but there's also a requirement that you must be enrolled in one of the first 4 years of post-secondary education (what the IRS considers your freshman through senior years). If you're in what would academically be considered your 5th year or greater (like if you're working on a second bachelor's or have been in school longer than the typical 4-year program), you generally wouldn't qualify regardless of how many times you've claimed it before. The Lifetime Learning Credit doesn't have this restriction, which is why it's available for graduate students and lifelong learners.
Quick tip for future reference: Keep good records of which years you claim each education credit! I've been audited before specifically about education credits and had to go back through 5 years of returns to prove my eligibility. I use a really simple spreadsheet now that tracks: 1. Which years I claimed AOTC 2. Which years I claimed Lifetime Learning 3. My qualified expenses for each year 4. Which 1098-T forms correspond to which tax year
How do the 1098-T forms work with this? Mine always seems to have different amounts than what I actually paid because of timing of the payments vs when classes start.
Just wanted to add another perspective here. I was in a similar situation last year, but I went through a Certified Acceptance Agent (CAA) for my spouse's ITIN application. It cost around $250, but they handled everything for us and knew exactly which exception applied and what documentation to submit. The advantage was they could verify the original identity documents themselves (passport, birth certificate, etc.) so we didn't have to send those original documents to the IRS. It was worth the fee for the peace of mind, especially since we were dealing with exception criteria. If you're stressed about getting all the documentation right for Exception 3, finding a local CAA might be worth considering. They deal with these applications daily and know all the little details the IRS is looking for.
I hadn't considered a Certified Acceptance Agent. Is there any downside to using one compared to submitting directly? Does it take longer to process when going through an agent?
There's really no downside in terms of processing time - in fact, it can be faster because CAAs reduce the likelihood of rejections due to documentation errors. The IRS processes the application the same way regardless of submission method. The only real downside is the cost. Most CAAs charge between $200-300 for their service, which includes document verification and submission. But considering the hassle of potentially having to resubmit if something goes wrong (plus the risk of sending original documents through the mail), many find it worthwhile. In my experience, using a CAA actually shaved weeks off the process because everything was submitted correctly the first time.
A quick data point from someone who just went through this process - don't forget that if you're applying for an ITIN using exception 3, the mortgage interest statement (Form 1098) from the previous tax year is REQUIRED documentation. I didn't include it with my first submission and it was rejected. Also, be aware that ITIN processing times are currently running about 8-10 weeks if everything is in order on your first submission. If you need to resubmit due to missing documentation, add another 7-9 weeks to that timeline. That's why getting it right the first time is so important.
From my understanding, you need the current year's Form 1098, not the previous year's. That's what my tax preparer told me. Maybe that's why it was rejected?
You actually need the most recently issued Form 1098, which would typically be from the previous tax year. When applying early in the year (like now for 2025 filing season), you'd use the 2024 mortgage interest statement since the 2025 one wouldn't be available yet. The IRS specifically wants to see that you have an ongoing mortgage interest situation that creates a tax need. If you're applying mid-year, you might also include recent mortgage statements showing continued interest payments. The key point is demonstrating a continued tax purpose for needing the ITIN, not just a one-time situation.
In my experience, whether a professional is worth it depends on how comfortable you are with taxes and how complex your situation is. For just a W2 and 1099-DIV, you might be fine with good software. HOWEVER - big caveat - if this is your first time owing taxes, that suggests something changed in your financial situation. That's exactly when a pro can be most valuable. They might spot why you suddenly owe (besides the student loan interest deduction you mentioned) and help you adjust your withholding so you don't get surprised next year. Even if you don't go with a full-service professional, at least consider having someone review your self-prepared return. Many offer this service for much less than full preparation.
What's the ballpark cost difference between having someone prepare my taxes vs just reviewing what I've done myself? I'm trying to save money but also don't want to miss deductions.
For simple returns like yours, full preparation might run $200-400 depending on your location and the professional's credentials (CPAs charge more than enrolled agents or tax preparers). A review service typically costs $50-150. The review can be really valuable - they'll look for obvious errors, missed deductions, and red flags that might trigger an audit. They can also advise on adjusting your withholding so you don't end up owing again next year. Many people find this middle ground approach gives them peace of mind without the full expense of preparation.
Something nobody's mentioned yet is that tax professionals have skin in the game if you get audited. Most reputable tax preparers offer some form of audit protection, meaning they'll help represent you if the IRS questions your return. When you self-file, you're on your own. I learned this the hard way when I got a notice questioning some business expenses I claimed. My tax guy handled everything, including gathering documentation and responding to the IRS. Would have been a nightmare to navigate alone.
Sean Matthews
Anyone else notice that the 1040 instructions for line 12 and 14 are really confusing this year? Like they made the explanation even more complicated than before. I had to read it like 5 times before I understood why my standard deduction amount was what it was.
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Ali Anderson
ā¢Omg yes! I thought I was just being dense but the instructions are so much worse this year. I actually called my tax preparer friend to explain the Cash App reporting requirements and she was like "yeah the IRS made everything more confusing this year for some reason.
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Sean Matthews
ā¢Right?! I'm glad it's not just me! I think they rewrote a bunch of the instructions to account for the new tax law changes, but in the process they made simple things like understanding your standard deduction way more complicated than necessary. I miss the clear flowcharts they used to have. I think the Cash App reporting is especially confusing because they don't clearly explain the difference between personal transfers and business income.
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Zadie Patel
Does anyone know if Cash App sends the 1099-K forms directly to the IRS? I didn't get one but I did have some side hustle money come in thru Cash App last year. Like around $800 total.
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A Man D Mortal
ā¢Yes, they do report to the IRS, but there's a threshold. For 2024 taxes (filed in 2025), you should receive a 1099-K if you received more than $5,000 in payments. But even if you don't receive a form, you're still legally required to report all income, even if it's below the reporting threshold.
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