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Anyone know if there's a way to import W-2 data directly into Excel? My company provides an electronic W-2 and I'm tired of manually typing all these box 12 codes and values.
Some tax software allows you to download your W-2 info as a CSV file which you can then import to Excel. Check if your employer's W-2 provider offers this. I use H&R Block and they have a feature to export the data.
Thanks for the tip! Just checked and our payroll provider (ADP) actually does have an export option. This will save me so much time on my spreadsheet setup.
You might be able to avoid the penalty entirely even if you were underwithholded! There's a "safe harbor" rule that says you won't get penalized if you paid at least 90% of this year's tax OR 100% of last year's tax (110% if your income is over $150,000). So if your total withholding for this year will at least equal what you owed LAST year, you're safe from penalties even if you end up owing again when you file.
Oh that's really good to know! So if we owed $2000 for 2024, as long as our withholding for 2025 is at least $2000, we won't get penalized even if we end up owing again? That seems more manageable than trying to predict exactly what we'll owe.
That's exactly right! As long as your total withholding for 2025 equals or exceeds what you owed for 2024 ($2000), you'll meet the safe harbor requirement and avoid penalties even if you still end up owing when you file. This is often the simplest approach because you don't have to predict your exact tax liability. Just make sure your withholding meets or exceeds last year's total tax (not just what you owed at filing time, but your total tax liability from last year's return). Many people find this much easier than trying to calculate quarterly payments.
Something similar happened to me and I realized it was because my spouse and I both selected "Married" on our W-4 forms. This can cause underwithholding when both spouses work! You should both check the box that says "Married, but withhold at higher Single rate" or use the new W-4 form's two-earner worksheet.
For hospital workers specifically, remember that night differential and call pay bonuses are treated as supplemental wages by some payroll systems, which might be withholding at the flat 22% supplemental wage rate rather than your normal progressive tax rate. Check your paystub to see if they're breaking out the withholding differently for regular vs. supplemental pay.
I never thought to check that! I just looked at my most recent stub and you're right - they ARE separating regular pay from my call bonuses and withholding at different rates. So does that mean I should leave it alone since they're already handling it correctly?
In that case, your payroll department is actually handling it correctly! The 22% flat rate for supplemental wages (like bonuses, overtime, etc.) is the standard IRS method. For most people in the 10%, 12%, or even 22% tax brackets, this might result in slight overwithholding, but it's generally pretty accurate. I'd suggest keeping things as they are for now. If you want to fine-tune it further, track your pay for 3-4 months and then use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator to see if any adjustments are recommended. But from what you're describing, your payroll system is already doing what it's supposed to do.
Does anyone know if it makes sense to increase your 403b contributions during pay periods with lots of call pay? I'm wondering if that could help with the tax situation while also boosting retirement savings.
Absolutely! That's what I do. When I have a paycheck with tons of call pay that I know will be taxed higher, I temporarily increase my 403b contribution for just that pay period. It brings my taxable income down and boosts my retirement. Just remember to change it back for your next regular paycheck.
Have you considered asking Job A if they can match the salary of Job B? With your skills as an orthodontist in this market, you might have more leverage than you think. $20k is exactly the kind of gap that's often negotiable, especially if you frame it as "I prefer your retirement benefits but have a competing offer with higher base pay." I was in a similar situation last year (different field but similar choice between retirement plans), and when I asked, my preferred employer ended up splitting the difference and offering me $10k more. Made my decision a lot easier.
That's a great suggestion I hadn't even thought of. I've been so focused on analyzing the retirement options that I forgot I could just try negotiating! Do you have any specific tips on how to approach that conversation? I don't want to come across as just trying to get more money.
Frame the conversation as wanting to join their team but needing to make a financially responsible decision. Be specific about what you like about their practice and the 401k plan, then mention you have another offer with a higher base but that you'd prefer to join them if the compensation gap wasn't so wide. If they can't budge on salary, see if there are other benefits they might be flexible on - maybe productivity bonuses, continuing education allowance, or more vacation time. Sometimes practices have more flexibility with these benefits than with base salary.
Everyone's focusing on the retirement accounts, but don't overlook the everyday tax implications of that extra $20k in salary from Job B. At your income level, that's likely an extra $6-8k in your pocket each year after taxes. With your high savings rate, you could invest that difference in a taxable account. Yeah, you lose some tax advantages, but that's still significant money over two years. Plus, having more in taxable accounts gives you more flexibility for early retirement, since you won't face penalties for accessing that money before 59½. Given your goal to retire in your late 40s or early 50s, having accessible funds is important.
This is a good point about early retirement accessibility. But remember that Roth contribution portions (not earnings) can be withdrawn penalty-free anytime, which helps with the early retirement ladder strategy. And 401k funds can be accessed penalty-free before 59½ using Rule 72t SEPP distributions. The tax-advantaged growth over decades usually outweighs the flexibility of taxable accounts, especially at OP's high savings rate.
Emma Thompson
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - keep REALLY good records of all your business expenses! I got audited last year for my Etsy shop because I claimed a lot of deductions without proper documentation. The IRS wanted receipts for everything. Also, don't forget you can deduct Etsy fees and transaction costs on your Schedule C. Those can add up to a big chunk of your income.
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AstroAlpha
ā¢Thanks for the heads up about documentation! I've been pretty good about keeping receipts but definitely need a better organization system. Do you use any specific apps for tracking business expenses? And do you separate your business and personal bank accounts?
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Emma Thompson
ā¢I use QuickBooks Self-Employed now and it's been a lifesaver. You can connect your accounts and it automatically categorizes most transactions, plus you can snap photos of receipts and attach them to expenses. Absolutely separate your business and personal accounts! This was actually one of the red flags that triggered my audit - I was mixing personal and business expenses in one account. Open a separate checking account for your business transactions, even if it's just a free one. Makes tax time so much easier and looks more legitimate to the IRS.
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Malik Jackson
Does anyone know if you have to file state taxes too? I'm in Texas so I think we don't have state income tax but do I still have to file something for my online business at the state level?
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Isabella Costa
ā¢You're lucky! Texas doesn't have state income tax so you don't have to file state income taxes. But you might need to look into sales tax collection depending on what you're selling on Etsy. Some states require you to collect sales tax from buyers in your state.
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