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Don't forget to consider cost segregation! Instead of depreciating the entire building over 39 years, you can have a study done that breaks out components that can be depreciated over 5, 7, or 15 years. Things like carpet, fixtures, specialized electrical, etc. On a distressed property with major renovations, this can be HUGE for your early year tax benefits. We did this on a similar property and were able to depreciate almost 30% of the value over 5-7 years instead of 39. The study cost us about $12k but saved over $200k in taxes in the first 5 years.
I've heard about cost segregation but wasn't sure if it applied to smaller commercial properties. Mine is only about 15,000 sq ft. Is there a minimum size where it makes financial sense? Also, does the fact that I'm getting it significantly below market value affect how cost segregation would work?
There's no specific minimum size where cost segregation makes sense - it's more about the potential tax savings versus the cost of the study. For a 15,000 sq ft property, it's definitely worth considering, especially if you're doing significant renovations. The below-market purchase price doesn't negatively impact cost segregation benefits. In fact, it might actually make the percentage benefit greater. Cost segregation works on your actual basis in the property (purchase price plus improvements), so while your basis might be lower than market value, the percentage of that basis that can be accelerated might be higher due to the renovation component. When you're putting significant renovation dollars in, those improvements often contain many items that qualify for 5-7 year depreciation.
Just a heads up - make sure you check if your renovations qualify for any energy efficiency tax credits on top of the depreciation benefits. We installed new HVAC, lighting, and insulation in our commercial rehab last year and got almost $75k in additional tax credits (not just deductions). Worth looking into before you finalize your renovation plans!
I did something similar on my last building. Which specific energy credits did you claim? I used the 179D deduction but heard there were others that might stack.
One important thing nobody mentioned - you need to track your gambling by SESSIONS, not just overall. The IRS considers each gambling session separately. So if you played blackjack on Monday and won $500, then played on Tuesday and lost $400, you have $500 in gambling income and $400 in losses (if you itemize). You can't just report the net $100 as your winnings. Also keep a "session log" with dates, locations (even if online), types of gambling, amounts won/lost per session. If you ever get audited, you'll need to show this detailed tracking.
Thanks for bringing this up! My tracking spreadsheet just has deposits and withdrawals with dates, but not broken down by actual playing sessions. If I play multiple times in one day, do I need to track each individual session or can I just track by day?
Each distinct playing session should be tracked separately, even if they occur on the same day. The IRS considers a session to end when you stop playing a particular game for a significant period. For online gambling, a good rule of thumb is that if you log out or stop playing for several hours, that ends a session. If you play blackjack for an hour, take a break for several hours, then play again, those would be two separate sessions. Some tax professionals recommend documenting the start and end times of each online gambling session to make this clear. The more detailed your records, the better position you'll be in if questions ever come up.
Watch out with online gambling - friend of mine won about 8k last year on an offshore site and didn't report it thinking they wouldn't know. Got a letter from IRS this year asking about large deposits to his bank account that didn't match his reported income! They noticed when he transferred winnings to his bank. Don't mess around with this stuff.
This is true! The IRS has reporting requirements for banks too. Any deposit over $10k gets automatically reported, and they also look for patterns of smaller deposits that might be trying to avoid that threshold. Plus with the new reporting for payment apps like Venmo and PayPal, there's a lot more visibility into money movement than people realize.
With your income levels, it's definitely worth looking into an S corp. I made the switch when my business hit about $180k and saved around $10k in self-employment taxes the first year. Just remember there are some downsides too: 1) You'll need to run payroll (even if it's just for yourself) 2) Separate tax return for the business (Form 1120-S) 3) More strict record-keeping requirements 4) Potential state fees and franchise taxes Also, the tax savings comes from the split between salary and distributions. If your reasonable salary is $150k and business profit is $270k, you'd save approximately 15.3% on the $120k difference. That's over $18k in potential tax savings, minus the extra costs of maintaining the S corp.
Thanks for breaking down the numbers! So even with the extra costs of payroll processing and additional tax filings, I'd still come out way ahead. Do you recommend using a payroll service or trying to handle it myself?
Definitely use a payroll service. The cost is minimal (usually $50-75/month for just yourself) and the peace of mind is worth it. They handle all the tax deposits, quarterly filings, W-2s, etc. Trying to DIY payroll is asking for trouble - the penalties for missed deadlines or incorrect deposits are steep. I use Gusto for my S corp payroll, but there are plenty of good options like OnPay, QuickBooks Payroll, or SurePayroll. Most accounting software integrates with these services too, making bookkeeping easier.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - the QBI deduction (Qualified Business Income). As a sole proprietor, you currently get to deduct 20% of your qualified business income on your personal return. You still get this with an S corp, but it only applies to the distribution portion, not your salary. With your income levels, you might face phase-out restrictions on QBI deduction anyway since you're married filing jointly and your combined income is above $340k, but it's something to consider in your calculations.
Wait, I thought QBI applied to S-Corp distributions too? My accountant definitely included my S-Corp distributions in QBI calculations last year...
Yes, that's exactly what I said - QBI applies to S corp distributions but NOT to the salary portion. So if you take $150k salary and $120k in distributions from your S corp, only the $120k would potentially qualify for the QBI deduction. Your accountant was correct to include S corp distributions in QBI calculations. I was just pointing out that when you compare sole proprietorship to S corp, you need to account for the fact that the salary portion of S corp earnings won't qualify for QBI, whereas all net income from a sole proprietorship potentially qualifies.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - you could also just set aside money each paycheck in a separate savings account to cover the expected tax bill. That's what I do with my side gig. I automatically transfer 30% of each side job paycheck into a "tax savings" account so I'm not shocked at tax time. Sometimes it's just easier than messing with withholdings, especially if your second job has irregular income. Plus if you overestimate, you've got a nice little bonus after filing.
What's the advantage of doing this instead of just adjusting your W-4 though? It seems like you're giving up interest you could be earning on that money by essentially giving yourself a tax bill.
The main advantage is simplicity, especially if your second income fluctuates. When my side gig earnings vary month to month, it's easier to just save a percentage than constantly update withholdings. You're right about potentially earning interest, but with a high-yield savings account, I'm still earning something on that money until tax time. The peace of mind of knowing I've got the tax bill covered is worth more to me than the small amount of extra interest I might get. Plus, I can adjust my "savings rate" if I think I'm putting too much aside.
One thing that really helped me with my two jobs was using the IRS withholding calculator AND keeping track in a spreadsheet. I set up a simple sheet that tracks my YTD income and withholding from both jobs so I can spot potential problems early. I check it once a month when I get all my paystubs. If I notice withholding getting off track, I can adjust mid-year instead of finding out in April. Super helpful for peace of mind!
Any chance you'd be willing to share a template of that spreadsheet? I'm terrible at creating those from scratch but that sounds super useful.
Paloma Clark
Just wanna throw out a tip from personal experience. I'd recommend printing out a copy of your original return BEFORE you amend. While tax software keeps records, having a physical copy of both versions gives you something to reference if questions come up later. Also, make sure to include a brief explanation with your 1040-X about why you're amending (like "received additional W-2 after filing"). The clearer you make things for the IRS, the smoother the processing usually goes.
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Heather Tyson
ā¢Does including a note or explanation with the 1040-X actually help speed things up? I've got a similar situation but with a 1099-NEC I just received last week.
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Paloma Clark
ā¢The explanation doesn't necessarily speed up processing, but it can help prevent miscommunications or additional questions from the IRS. For 1040-X, there's actually a specific area where you're required to explain the reasons for amendment - it's Part III of the form. If you're filing with a 1099-NEC you just received, definitely note that you received the form after filing your original return. Being specific about dates can help show good faith compliance. While amendments generally take 16+ weeks regardless, clear documentation helps avoid further delays from the IRS asking for clarification.
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Raul Neal
Anyone know if there's a specific cutoff for how small an amount needs to be before the IRS doesn't care? My missing W2 is only for like $120 from a job I quit in 2022 but they paid out final vacation time in January. Seems like a lot of hassle for such a tiny amount that barely changes my tax situation.
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Jenna Sloan
ā¢There's no minimum threshold - technically ALL income needs to be reported regardless of amount. The real question is whether the IRS would notice or pursue it. They'll definitely receive the W-2 info from your employer, so the mismatch will be in their system.
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