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I went through something similar. The "financial guy" your friend is working with sounds sketchy. Nobody should need 6-7 months to investigate this! Tell your friend to call the IRS directly at 800-919-9835 and request a Payment Trace. They'll likely need to fill out Form 3911. Another thing - is this "financial guy" charging a fee? Because getting help with a missing stimulus payment should NOT cost anything. The IRS will help directly and for free.
Your friend should definitely bypass that "financial advisor" - 6-7 months is way too long and honestly sounds like they might be trying to charge unnecessary fees. The IRS has specific procedures for this exact situation. Here's what worked for me when my stimulus went to a closed account: First, have your friend get their IRS account transcript online (not just the tax return transcript). This will show exactly when and where the payment was sent. Then call the IRS Payment Trace line at 800-919-9835 and request a formal payment trace using Form 3911. The key is being persistent with the phone calls - try calling first thing in the morning (8am) when hold times are shorter. When they reach an agent, they should specifically mention that the payment was sent to a closed bank account and the funds were never received. The IRS can usually reissue these payments within 4-6 weeks once they confirm the original payment was returned by the bank. Don't let anyone charge you for this service - it's completely free through the IRS directly!
This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my stimulus went to an old account. Quick question - when you called that 800-919-9835 number, did you have to provide any specific information beyond just explaining the situation? I want to make sure I have everything ready before I spend time on hold. Also, did they ask for any documentation to prove the old account was closed?
Congrats on finally getting your DDD! That identity verification wait can be nerve-wracking but sounds like everything worked out. Thanks for sharing your timeline - it really helps those of us still waiting to know what to expect. Enjoy that refund when it hits! š
Have you considered the option of renouncing just before the 8-year mark? If you haven't hit that threshold yet, the exit tax situation is considerably simpler. It's worth looking at exactly where you are in that timeline.
I went through a similar situation about 3 years ago when I moved to Dubai (also 0% crypto tax). The key thing to understand is that as long as you maintain your green card, you're stuck with US tax obligations regardless of any tax treaty benefits. What really caught me off guard was the timing aspect - if you're planning to sell during a bull market, you need to factor in estimated quarterly payments to the IRS even while living abroad. I made the mistake of thinking I could just settle up at year-end and got hit with underpayment penalties. Also, don't overlook state tax implications if you haven't properly established non-residency from your previous state. Some states (looking at you, California) are notoriously aggressive about claiming you still owe state taxes even after moving internationally. My advice: get professional help BEFORE you make any moves. The exit tax calculations are complex, and there are strategies around timing your departure and asset sales that can save you significant money. I wish I'd consulted a specialist earlier instead of trying to figure it out myself.
I see the "just keep calling" advice a lot, and honestly, it reminds me of the time I tried to reach my ex at 2am after a breakup... persistent but not very effective! š Seriously though, I used to be in the "just use the free tools" camp until I had a complicated issue last year. The free tools are great for basic stuff, but they don't really explain what's happening with your specific situation. The IRS transcript looks like it was designed by someone who hates humans - all codes and dates with zero explanation. Sometimes paying a few bucks to save hours of frustration is worth it. But hey, if you've got unlimited time to sit on hold or decipher IRS hieroglyphics, more power to you!
Thanks for asking this question! I'm dealing with something similar and it's good to see I'm not alone. Based on what everyone's saying, it sounds like we're both stuck waiting for the refund to go to our old accounts (if they're still open) or getting paper checks if not. One thing I'm wondering - has anyone here actually tried to contact their bank to see if they can help redirect the deposit once it hits? I know some banks have policies about forwarding funds to new accounts for a certain period after closure. Might be worth a shot before we resign ourselves to the paper check wait time. Also @CosmicCruiser, I saw you mentioned switching banks for medical bills - have you considered just transferring the money once it hits your old account? That might be faster than waiting for a paper check if your old account is still active.
Chloe Martin
Pro tip: if you have to mail in documents, send them to the SPECIFIC address for 5447C letters. It's different from the regular IRS mailing address. Made that mistake and it delayed my process by weeks. š¤¦āāļø
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Oliver Zimmermann
ā¢Oh wow, I didn't know that! Do you happen to have the specific address handy?
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Chloe Martin
ā¢It should be on your 5447C letter, but if not, you can find it on the IRS website. Just make sure it says it's specifically for identity verification docs.
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Keisha Johnson
I went through this exact same process about 6 months ago and it was definitely stressful! One thing that really helped me was creating a timeline and keeping detailed notes of every step. I'd also recommend checking the IRS website for processing times - they usually update it regularly so you know what to expect. The whole identity verification thing is a pain, but once you get through it, your refund should process normally. Hang in there! šŖ
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Keisha Williams
ā¢That's really helpful advice! I never thought about creating a timeline to track everything. Did you find the IRS processing time estimates on their website to be accurate, or did it take longer than they said it would?
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