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Confused with different total tax amounts when comparing tax software calculations

I'm not super familiar with taxes but I thought it should be pretty straightforward for me since I'm just a single W2 employee. For the 2023 tax year, my Box 1 wages were $121,254. My interest income on my 1099-INT was $2,986. I used TurboTax and my total tax was calculated at $17,968. Since $17,199 was already withheld, I had to pay an extra $769. After that experience, I started having an additional $130 taken out for federal taxes each paycheck to avoid owing next time. Fast forward to this year (2024 tax filing), my Box 1 wages were $125,164, with $20,396 withheld for federal taxes in Box 2. My interest income on my 1099-INT was $2,427. I decided to try H&R Block since they had a sale going on. Their software calculated my total tax as $20,869 and said I still owed $473. This seemed off, so I went to the IRS website to estimate my taxes. According to their calculator, my AGI is $97,247 and I qualify for free filing. My total income is $127,591 and my taxable income is $110,239. The IRS calculated my total tax as $18,382. Since I already had $20,396 withheld, it showed I should get a refund of $2,014. Now I'm completely confused because we're talking about almost a $2,500 difference between H&R Block and the IRS calculator! My gut feeling is that the IRS calculator is correct and H&R Block made an error, since I earned slightly more this year so my taxes should be a bit higher than last year. That's what I was expecting. Would anyone experienced mind looking at these numbers to confirm? I can share all the details from my W2 if needed. Thanks!

Amina Bah

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One thing to check is if you're itemizing deductions in one calculation but taking the standard deduction in another. With numbers like yours, you're probably right on the borderline where either approach might make sense depending on your specific situation. Also check if both calculators are handling your state taxes the same way. Sometimes the federal calculation gets thrown off by different assumptions about state tax deductibility.

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CyberSiren

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That's a good point I hadn't considered! I'm pretty sure I'm taking the standard deduction in both cases since my mortgage interest and charitable donations probably don't add up to enough to itemize, but I should double check. As for state taxes, I'm in Texas so we don't have state income tax, which makes things a bit simpler. Do you think that could still be affecting the calculation somehow?

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Amina Bah

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If you're in Texas with no state income tax, then that eliminates one possible source of discrepancy. That's actually helpful for narrowing down the issue. Even if you're taking the standard deduction, check if both systems are using the correct amount for your filing status. The standard deduction for single filers is $13,850 for 2023 tax year. If H&R Block somehow miscategorized your filing status, that could explain part of the difference. Another area to check is qualified retirement contributions. Sometimes tax software requires you to manually enter 401(k) contributions even if they're shown on your W2. If H&R Block missed those, it would calculate a higher taxable income than the IRS calculator.

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This happened to me too!! I ended up downloading my return as a PDF from both H&R Block and TurboTax, then going through them line by line to find the differences. It took forever but I finally found that one software was interpreting my retirement contributions differently. One suggestion is to check if there's anything unusual about your W2 - any code in Box 12 that might be interpreted differently by different software?

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This is solid advice! Line-by-line comparison is tedious but effective. I work in payroll and Box 12 codes cause the most confusion with tax software. Codes D, E, F, G, H and S all relate to different types of retirement contributions and sometimes software doesn't categorize them correctly.

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Tax Identity Theft: Nonprofit Used My SSN for Merchant Payments - IRS Demanding Payment

So this is a bit of a mess and I need advice. I volunteered with a community organization from 2016-2023 that claimed to be a nonprofit. For several years, they used my personal Social Security Number for their Square merchant account for processing payments and donations. I had no idea my SSN was being used continuously - they told me it was just a temporary placeholder until they could switch it to their Tax ID number. I never saw a penny of the money processed through Square - it all went directly to their bank accounts. Fast forward to 2023, and I get this terrifying letter from the IRS saying I owe over $19,000 in back taxes from the 2021 tax year! The organization has supposedly "fixed" the 1099 forms for 2021 and afterward, but the damage is done. The IRS has seized my tax refunds two years in a row to pay down this liability that isn't even mine. There's still a huge balance the IRS wants from me. The organization is giving me the runaround about who's responsible for dealing with the IRS. They drafted some sketchy-looking "reimbursement agreement" for my seized refunds, but it doesn't look professionally written at all. I've talked to an attorney who told me not to sign anything from them. They took forever (almost a year) to pay me back for my first seized refund, and it's been over 4 months waiting for reimbursement for this year's seized refund. Should I just file a lawsuit against them? Has anyone dealt with something similar where an organization used your SSN without permission and stuck you with their tax liability?

Beyond the tax issues, you need to pursue civil action against this organization. What they did is illegal on multiple levels: 1. Unauthorized use of your SSN (identity theft) 2. Tax fraud (reporting income under your SSN) 3. Breach of fiduciary duty (if you were a volunteer) 4. Potential wire fraud (using electronic systems to commit fraud) Don't just accept their reimbursement of seized refunds - you're entitled to damages beyond that. Their actions have damaged your credit, created tax problems that will take years to fully resolve, and caused significant stress. Document EVERYTHING. Save all emails, texts, and record dates/times of phone calls. Note who you spoke with and what was said.

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CyberSamurai

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This is exactly what I've been wondering. Beyond just getting my tax situation fixed, can I sue them for damages? The stress this has caused has been unbelievable. I've had trouble sleeping, my credit score dropped, and I've spent countless hours trying to fix this mess. Would small claims court be appropriate, or should I look for an attorney who works on contingency?

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This case is too complex and the damages potentially too large for small claims court. You need an attorney who specializes in tax identity theft or financial fraud. Many attorneys in this field will offer a free initial consultation. The damages you could pursue include: all tax penalties and interest, compensation for credit damage, costs for credit monitoring services, time spent resolving the issue (calculated at a reasonable hourly rate), and potentially punitive damages since their actions appear willful rather than accidental. Some states also allow for statutory damages for identity theft. I'd recommend contacting your state bar association for a referral to attorneys specializing in identity theft or tax fraud. Look for someone who has experience specifically with business-related identity theft, as this is more complex than typical consumer identity theft cases.

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Dylan Cooper

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Wait, I'm confused about one thing - were you an actual employee or officer of this nonprofit, or just a volunteer? If you were in a leadership position, that might affect how this is handled.

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CyberSamurai

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I was strictly a volunteer. I helped at events and occasionally assisted with marketing materials, but I was never an employee, never received compensation, and had no financial authority or access to accounts. I was not an officer or board member. I just let them use my SSN temporarily to set up the Square account when they were in a rush one day, with the explicit understanding that they would immediately change it to their Tax ID.

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Sofia Perez

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That makes this WAY worse from a legal perspective. As someone with nonprofit experience, I can tell you that what they did borders on criminal fraud. Nonprofits have EINs (Employer Identification Numbers) specifically for financial transactions. There is NEVER a legitimate reason to use a volunteer's SSN for merchant processing.

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Alice Pierce

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One thing nobody mentioned is that you should absolutely file an amended return (Form 1040-X) for that tax year ASAP. Even though you've been audited and received a notice, filing the amended return yourself shows good faith and might help with penalty abatement. Make sure to include a written statement explaining the situation with the late 1099. Also check if you had any additional business expenses related to earning that income - they could offset some of what you owe.

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Tyler Murphy

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Wouldn't filing an amended return be redundant at this point? The IRS already knows about the income and has calculated what I owe. Would there be any benefit to going through that process now?

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Alice Pierce

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Filing an amended return is still beneficial even after receiving an audit notice. When you file your own amendment, you have the opportunity to present the complete picture of your tax situation - including any deductions or credits related to that income that the IRS might not have considered. The IRS calculation in the notice only adds the income they discovered and recalculates your tax. They don't automatically apply any potential deductions you might be entitled to from that business relationship. By filing Form 1040-X, you're taking control of the narrative rather than just accepting their adjustment.

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Esteban Tate

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You might want to file Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement) to request elimination of the penalties. I had success with this after a similar situation. The IRS can waive penalties for "reasonable cause" - and while the late 1099 isn't a get-out-of-jail-free card, it does support your case that you were missing information.

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I second this. I had penalties waived using Form 843 when I had a similar situation with a late 1099-K from PayPal. Make sure to include dates, copies of when you received the 1099, and a clear explanation. Be super polite and straightforward in your letter!

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Mason Lopez

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Have you considered a hybrid approach? I'm a single-member LLC too, and I use two vehicles. My older car (2018 Civic) is 100% business use - I take standard mileage on that one because it's simple and the car is fully depreciated. Then I have my newer SUV that I use for mixed personal/occasional business when I need to haul equipment. This separation makes recordkeeping way cleaner and avoids the whole business/personal allocation mess. Plus, insurance is often cheaper on a vehicle that's only driving to client sites versus one that's also used for family trips.

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Vera Visnjic

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How do you handle insurance and registration for the 100% business car? Do you put that in your business name? My insurance was weird about covering a personal vehicle used primarily for business.

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Mason Lopez

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I have the business vehicle registered and insured under my LLC name with a commercial auto policy. You're right that it can be tricky with personal policies - many won't properly cover business use or will charge extra. The commercial policy actually ended up being around the same price after shopping around, and it provides better coverage for my situation. The registration in the business name also makes it clearer to the IRS that it's a dedicated business asset. One thing to note though - if you go this route, you need to be disciplined about never using that vehicle for personal trips, not even stopping for personal errands during business trips.

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I lease a car through my single-member LLC and it's been great tax-wise. With a lease, you can deduct the business portion of your payments plus operating expenses OR use the standard mileage rate - whichever is better. Just make sure the lease is actually in your business name if you go this route. The best thing is no worries about depreciation recapture if you sell it later. The downside is those annoying excess mileage fees if you drive a lot, which sounds like you might with 16k business miles.

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Did you have to pay a higher rate for a business lease vs a personal one? I looked into this and the dealer wanted to charge me more when I mentioned it was for my business.

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Andre Moreau

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Maybe check if anything else changed? A few things that caused me to suddenly owe: - Started making too much for certain credits - Had some stock dividends or interest that wasn't taxed - Decrease in mortgage interest (if you're itemizing) - Accidentally checked "exempt" somewhere on your W-4 - Employer messed up your withholding Compare this year's W-2 Box 2 (fed tax withheld) with last year's as a percentage of your income. Bet it's lower.

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Luca Bianchi

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Thanks for the suggestions! I checked and my withholding percentage definitely dropped. Looking at box 2 of my W-2, last year they withheld about 18% of my total income but this year it's only 15%. That seems to be where the problem is. The bonus was about $8500 so that explains a good chunk of the difference.

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Andre Moreau

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Yeah that withholding percentage drop is definitely your answer. For the bonus specifically - they typically withhold a flat 22% from bonuses (called supplemental wages), but if you're in a higher bracket overall, that's not enough. If you expect similar bonuses in the future, you can add an extra withholding amount on line 4(c) of your W-4. Calculate roughly how much more you'd need based on your actual tax rate minus the 22% they'll withhold automatically.

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Pro tip from someone who has deal with this exact thing for years: if you know you're getting a bonus, you can temporarily change your W-4 for just that pay period to withhold extra, then change it back for your regular paychecks. That's what I do every December when bonus time comes around.

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Does your company let you do this? Mine requires submitting W-4 changes like 3 weeks in advance so it's hard to time it exactly with the bonus paycheck.

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Yeah my company lets us make W-4 changes through our online portal and they take effect in the next pay cycle. I just mark myself as "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" and add 0 dependents instead of my usual 2 for the bonus check. I've also started just having an additional $50 withheld from each regular paycheck throughout the year (line 4c on the W-4) which builds a little cushion. I'd rather get a small refund than owe.

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