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My uncle was in this exact situation! Never filed for like 30 years, worked mostly construction jobs for cash. He finally got caught when he tried to take out a loan to buy a truck and they needed proof of income. The aftermath was actually less catastrophic than everyone expected. He had to file 6 years of back taxes and pay some penalties, but he worked out a payment plan with the IRS. The scariest part was just taking the first step. The biggest issue now is that he has no social security credits, so his retirement options are really limited. That's the part your friend should be most concerned about - even if they escape IRS notice, they're shooting themselves in the foot for retirement.

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Carmen Vega

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That's a great point about Social Security that I hadn't even considered. Do you know if there's any way to "make up" those credits once you start filing, or is that money just permanently lost for all those working years?

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Unfortunately, there's no way to make up those credits retroactively beyond the statute of limitations. Social Security benefits are calculated based on your highest 35 years of earnings. If you have fewer than 35 years of reported earnings, they fill in the missing years with zeros, which significantly reduces your benefit amount. For my uncle, it means his Social Security benefit is tiny compared to what it could have been. He's basically relying on family support in his old age now. It's one of his biggest regrets - not the penalties or back taxes, but missing out on decades of Social Security contributions.

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StarStrider

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Your friend might be what the IRS calls a "ghost taxpayer" but it's definitely not sustainable! A few thoughts on how this might have happened: 1) If they've worked as an independent contractor and nobody issued 1099s, the IRS might not have automatic records of their income 2) For the mortgage, they're probably not on the loan at all - only their partner with the W2 qualified 3) For hospital bills, if they paid cash or had insurance through a partner/employer without being the primary policyholder, it wouldn't trigger tax flags 4) For the child, the other parent may be claiming them on their taxes The most concerning part is retirement. Without tax records, they won't have Social Security credits for those working years. They're effectively planning to retire with potentially zero Social Security benefits. They need to fix this ASAP, starting with consulting a tax attorney who specializes in non-filer cases.

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Exactly this. I work in financial planning and see this occasionally. The retirement aspect is what will really hurt them in the long run. If they're in their 40s they still have time to accumulate ~20 years of Social Security credits, but they've lost a significant portion of their potential benefits already.

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Another option is to check if your W2 is available electronically! A lot of employers use services like ADP, Paychex, or Workday where you can log in and download your tax forms, even if you don't work there anymore. Do you remember if you ever set up an online account for viewing paystubs? Try logging in there or call and specifically ask if they use an online system for tax documents. Sometimes the managers don't even think to mention this option.

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Aaliyah Reed

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I don't think they had anything like that. It was a pretty small franchise operation and they handed out physical paychecks every two weeks. I never got any login information for viewing stuff online. But that's definitely good to know for future jobs!

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Something similar happened to my son last year. We found that reporting them to the state labor department was actually faster than going through the IRS! Different states have different rules, but many have penalties for employers who don't provide wage statements. It might be worth checking your state's department of labor website to see if you can file a complaint there too. In our case, they contacted the employer within 3 days and we had the W2 by the end of the week.

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Kaylee Cook

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This is great advice! I did the same thing in California and the labor board was super helpful. The business got fined and suddenly they were very responsive about getting me my documents.

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Is it normal for tax preparers to disclaim all liability for mistakes and errors in their contracts?

So I've been using a CPA for about 8 years now after ditching TurboTax when it made a huge error that triggered an IRS audit. The audit was a complete nightmare that dragged on for almost 2 years and cost me thousands in penalties. The whole reason I switched to a professional tax preparer was because I thought they'd take responsibility for their work and I wouldn't have to worry about mistakes sneaking through due to my own tax ignorance. But two things are really bugging me about my current accountant: First, their contract specifically states they are NOT responsible for errors or omissions, NOT responsible for advising against questionable deductions, and NOT responsible for any penalties or additional taxes that might result from their work. This seems crazy to me! Isn't the whole point of hiring a professional that they're accountable for the quality of their work? Second, they send me this massive paper questionnaire every year that's basically identical to the same questions TurboTax asked. I spend hours filling it out, gathering documents, organizing everything, and sending it all in. It feels like I'm doing all the same work as before but paying 4x more for someone to just input what I gathered into their software. Am I missing something here? Why am I paying hundreds more if I'm still doing all the legwork AND they have zero accountability if they screw up? Is this actually standard practice with tax preparers these days?

To answer your original question - yes, it's completely normal for tax preparers to have disclaimers about not being responsible for errors. I've used three different CPAs over the years and they all had similar language in their agreements. The reality is that tax preparers rely on the information YOU provide to them. They can't verify whether the numbers you give them are accurate. The paperwork is actually them covering their own behinds because ultimately, you sign the return and you're responsible for what's on it. That said, a good CPA should be doing more than just data entry. Mine reviews everything for consistency with prior years, asks questions when something looks unusual, and provides actual tax planning advice throughout the year.

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Do you think there's a major difference between CPAs and non-CPA tax preparers in terms of quality and services? I've been using an Enrolled Agent and wondering if I should switch to a CPA.

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There can be significant differences between CPAs and other tax preparers, but credentials alone don't tell the whole story. CPAs have broader accounting knowledge and must meet strict education and continuing education requirements, which can be helpful for complex situations or if you need accounting services beyond tax preparation. Enrolled Agents specialize specifically in taxation and are licensed by the IRS, so many EAs are actually more knowledgeable about tax matters than some CPAs. What matters most is finding someone with experience in your specific tax situation - whether that's small business issues, investment properties, foreign income, etc. Ask about their typical clients and whether they have specialized knowledge relevant to your circumstances.

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Has anyone here tried going back to tax software after using a CPA? I'm considering it after paying $825 last year for what felt like them just plugging my info into their own version of TurboTax.

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Max Knight

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I did! Went back to TurboTax after 3 years with a CPA. For my relatively simple situation (W-2 income, mortgage, some investments), it worked fine and saved me about $650. The software has gotten better over the years. Just make sure you don't have anything super complicated.

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Yara Abboud

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OP, I think you might be overthinking this. The substantial presence test is really meant for people who split time between countries. You've been here 23 years straight - you're definitely a resident alien for tax purposes. When I was doing payroll, we had lots of folks in similar situations. The key thing the IRS cares about is where you're physically living and earning money, not your immigration status. Just select "US citizen or resident alien" on your W-4.

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Thanks for the confirmation! I was definitely overthinking it, but it's my first time seeing this specific question so directly on a form. I'm going to select "US citizen or resident alien" option. Do you know if there are any other special considerations I should be aware of for the rest of my W-4 since I'm a resident alien and not a citizen?

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Yara Abboud

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Not really! Once you select "US citizen or resident alien," the rest of the W-4 is identical regardless of citizenship status. You'll fill out the standard deductions, multiple jobs section, and dependents information just like everyone else. The only time you'd have different tax paperwork is if you were a nonresident alien, which would involve some different withholding rules. But as a resident alien, you're treated exactly the same as a US citizen for tax purposes.

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PixelPioneer

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I was actually in the opposite situation - lived in the US for years but traveled outside the country frequently for work. Make sure you keep detailed records of any time you leave the US even for short trips (if you ever do). I got audited once because the IRS thought I didn't meet the substantial presence test due to my travels.

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How did the audit go? Did you have to prove each day you were in the US? I travel internationally a lot and now I'm worried about this!

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Javier Cruz

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For what it's worth, I'm an academic advisor at a university with lots of veteran students, and this confusion with education credits and GI Bill happens constantly. Two tips that might help: 1) Ask your school's Veterans Affairs office for a "Student Account Summary" that clearly separates GI Bill payments from your out-of-pocket expenses. This documentation is crucial if you ever get questioned. 2) The computer might qualify as an education expense, but you need to prove it was required for your specific program, not just convenient. Some programs explicitly require certain tech specs, which makes this easier to document. Most tax software struggles with the nuances of military education benefits. The default calculations often underestimate legitimate credits.

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Thanks for the tips! Do you know if my school's required materials list would be enough documentation for the computer purchase? My program handbook says students must have a laptop with certain minimum specifications.

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Javier Cruz

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Yes, a program handbook or syllabus that specifically states students must have a laptop with certain minimum specifications is excellent documentation. Save that documentation with your tax records. If your program has that kind of explicit requirement in writing, it significantly strengthens your case for counting the computer as a qualified education expense. Just make sure you're only claiming the portion of computer use dedicated to your education if you also use it for personal activities.

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Emma Wilson

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Just a heads up that education credits are one of the most commonly audited items on tax returns, especially when GI Bill or other education benefits are involved. The IRS system often flags returns where both education benefits AND education credits appear. Make sure you keep ALL documentation for at least 3 years: - Receipts for every qualified expense - Course requirements showing materials were required - Financial aid statements showing what was covered by GI Bill - Statements showing what you paid out of pocket TurboTax isn't necessarily wrong - it's calculating based on the info you provided - but it might not be asking all the right questions to maximize your legitimate deductions.

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Malik Thomas

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I learned this the hard way. Got audited in 2023 for my 2021 education credits while using Post-9/11. The IRS wanted documentation I didn't have anymore and I ended up having to pay back the credit plus interest. Now I scan and save EVERYTHING.

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