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I've had my 16yo and 14yo working in our family restaurant for years. Both are on payroll, have proper work permits (check your state laws!), and actual job duties. My 16yo works the register and my 14yo does dishes and prep work. Three things that have kept us audit-free: 1. We pay them reasonable wages for our area for teens doing those jobs 2. We have actual timecards and schedules 3. The money goes into custodial accounts we set up at our bank Don't get greedy with it - the IRS definitely looks at whether you're paying your kid $50/hr for sweeping floors. But paying normal wages for actual work is completely legitimate.

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Molly Hansen

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Do you withhold taxes from their paychecks or is there some exemption since they probably don't make enough to owe taxes anyway?

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We do withhold federal income tax as normal, but they both typically get it all refunded when they file their returns since they earn under the standard deduction. For FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare), there's an exemption for children under 18 working in a parent's business if it's a sole proprietorship or a partnership owned only by the parents. Since our restaurant is set up that way, we don't have to withhold FICA taxes from their wages, which saves everyone money. If your business is incorporated, different rules apply and you would need to withhold FICA.

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Brady Clean

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Does anyone know if this strategy works for a 9-year-old? My daughter helps me stuff envelopes and organize materials for my home-based mail order business. I've been paying her $20 each time she helps but never thought about making it official.

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Skylar Neal

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There's no minimum age requirement in federal law for working in a parent's business (though state laws may vary). But what matters is whether the work and pay are reasonable. A 9-year-old stuffing envelopes occasionally should be paid what you'd pay any kid that age for that task - not an adult wage.

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Jamal Brown

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Make sure you're tracking your mileage correctly going forward! For it to be valid for tax purposes, you need: - Start and end odometer readings - Date of each trip - Business purpose - Destination I use MileIQ app which does most of this automatically. Worth every penny for the peace of mind.

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Mei Zhang

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Are there any free alternatives to MileIQ? I'm trying to keep expenses down while starting my business.

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Jamal Brown

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Stride is a good free alternative that many of my clients use. It doesn't have all the premium features of MileIQ, but it covers the basics the IRS requires. Some people just use Google Maps to calculate distances and keep a simple spreadsheet with dates and purposes. That works too as long as you're consistent and record everything promptly.

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Important question: when you refile, make sure you check if you qualify for the Qualified Business Income Deduction (Section 199A). As a 1099 contractor making under $170,050 (single) or $340,100 (married), you likely qualify for an additional 20% deduction on your net income AFTER expenses like mileage. This can save you thousands more!

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Wait what?? I've been filing self-employed for 3 years and never heard of this. Is this something new?

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My accountant mentioned this last year. It's not new, been around since 2018 but many self-employed people miss it. Definitely worth looking into if you're filing a 1099.

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Has anyone considered the mortgage implications of transferring title? If there's still a mortgage on the property, transferring title to a spouse might trigger a due-on-sale clause in your mortgage agreement, potentially making the entire loan balance due immediately.

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Malik Davis

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Good point! But I believe transfers between spouses are usually exempt from due-on-sale clauses under the Garn-St. Germain Act. Still worth checking your specific mortgage terms though.

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Just want to correct something I'm seeing in this thread. Adding your spouse to the title doesn't help with capital gains, but it CAN potentially help with STEP-UP BASIS if one spouse passes away. That's a completely different situation but important to understand for long-term planning. If the property is held jointly with rights of survivorship and one spouse dies, the surviving spouse often gets a stepped-up basis on the deceased spouse's portion of the property, which can reduce capital gains if they sell later.

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Jean Claude

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My sister works at H&R Block and says this is absolutely NOT standard practice. She said they only need to see (not keep) certain documents to verify eligibility for specific credits like EITC or Child Tax Credit. For normal tax filing, they need: - SSNs for you and dependents (viewing the cards is sufficient) - Maybe school records or medical records to verify residency for certain credits - Income documents (W-2s, 1099s, etc.) She said they NEVER keep copies of birth certificates or social security cards - that's a massive security risk and violates their company policy. Most reputable tax prep companies have similar policies. Your tax guy is either misinformed or intentionally misleading you. Either way, I'd find someone else.

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Marcus Marsh

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Thanks for sharing this! It's helpful to hear from someone with insider knowledge. Would your sister recommend just going to a place like H&R Block instead of an independent preparer? Or are there specific credentials I should look for if I decide to find a new independent tax person?

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Jean Claude

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She says the advantage of larger companies is they have standardized training and policies around documentation and privacy. That said, there are many excellent independent preparers too. If you go independent, look for credentials like Enrolled Agent (EA), Certified Public Accountant (CPA), or Annual Filing Season Program participants. These professionals have to meet education requirements and follow ethical standards. Also ask about their privacy policy and data security practices upfront. The most important thing is comfort and trust. If something feels off, it probably is. My sister says a good preparer should be able to clearly explain why they need any document and how they'll protect your information - not just make vague claims about "new IRS requirements.

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Just want to add one thing - while the IRS doesn't require tax preparers to collect and keep all those documents, they ARE cracking down on improper claims for certain credits, especially EITC and Child Tax Credit. Your preparer might be overreacting to these increased due diligence requirements. Some preparers can be fined if they file returns claiming these credits without proper verification, so some are going overboard with documentation. But "verification" doesn't mean "keeping permanent copies." At most, they should be documenting that they've seen proof of eligibility. If your preparer insists on keeping copies, ask specifically how they'll secure this information and how long they'll retain it.

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Josef Tearle

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This is a really good point. My tax guy explained that he needs to document that he's done due diligence for certain credits, but he just takes notes in my file that he's "viewed SSN card" or "verified school enrollment" - he doesn't keep actual copies of these documents. That seems like a reasonable middle ground that protects both him and my privacy.

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From personal experience, I wouldn't bother amending for such a small amount. Last year I received a 1099-INT after filing that showed $12 in interest income. I panicked just like you, but my sister works for H&R Block and told me the IRS has a materiality threshold. The tax on $16 would be so minimal that it's just not worth their resources to pursue. If they do notice (unlikely), they'll just send a letter adjusting your tax by a couple dollars.

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What exactly is this "materiality threshold"? Is that an official IRS thing or just something tax preparers talk about?

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It's not an officially published number, but tax professionals recognize that the IRS has limited resources and doesn't pursue extremely small discrepancies. The IRS uses cost-benefit analysis in their enforcement efforts. They generally focus on issues where the potential tax recovery exceeds the administrative cost of pursuing it. Many tax pros consider amounts under $50 to be below the practical threshold for enforcement, though this isn't a guarantee. The IRS computer matching system might still flag it, but the likelihood of further action decreases with the dollar amount.

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I literally just went through this exact thing! Had a tiny 1099-R with like $20 taxable that arrived after I filed. I called the IRS (took forever to get through) and the agent told me that while technically any income should be reported, they don't typically pursue amounts this small. She said I could file an amended return if it would make me feel better, but that the system might not even generate a notice for such a small amount.

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Good to know! Did they say anything about it affecting future audits or anything? That's what I'd be worried about.

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