< Back to IRS

Destiny Bryant

15 years paid "under the table" - tax newbie needs help with rights & obligations

I've been working for a family member who owns a small business for about 15 years now. I basically run the place while they're stepping back due to age. The issue is they pay me cash only and have always told me "you don't make enough" to file my own taxes. Something about this arrangement doesn't feel right to me. I work 24 hours per week at $16.75/hour, and I'm beginning to realize I probably don't have any legal worker protections, disability coverage (which matters since the work can be dangerous), or unemployment eligibility if I leave. I've missed out on all the stimulus payments over the years, tax refunds, and other benefits. Nothing is being paid toward insurance or retirement for my future. To make matters worse, they also claim me as a dependent on their taxes. From what I understand, they're self-employed with their own business, but I don't know much about taxes or finance myself. I need to know where this leaves me and what options I have. I'm the hardest worker I know, but they're very old-school and won't listen when I bring up concerns. I've asked to be paid minimum wage properly (on the books), but my weekly pay hasn't increased since before the pandemic. I don't want to make things difficult for them, but I want what I'm legally entitled to - no more, no less. Do I have any recourse? I'm trying to understand what they're gaining financially by keeping me "under the table" all these years while claiming me as a dependent. Any help is appreciated.

Dyllan Nantx

•

This is definitely not right, and you need to address this situation for several reasons. Let me break it down: First, if you're working and being paid, you ARE required to report that income to the IRS regardless of how much you make. There's no "too little to file" exception for earned income - that's a myth. Your relative is misinforming you. Second, by claiming you as a dependent while you're working for them, they're getting tax benefits they likely aren't entitled to. For someone to claim you as a dependent, you generally need to live with them, they need to provide more than half of your support, and you must meet certain income requirements. Third, working "under the table" means you're not building Social Security credits. This will seriously impact your retirement benefits in the future. You're also missing out on unemployment protection and workers' comp if you get hurt. What you describe is potentially tax fraud on your relative's part. They're avoiding paying employer taxes (Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance) and possibly improperly claiming a dependent deduction. For your recourse: start by documenting everything - hours worked, cash payments received, etc. Then you should file your own tax returns for the current year at minimum. The IRS has a way to report income even without W-2s using Form 4852.

0 coins

Thank you for the detailed explanation. I had no idea there wasn't a "too little to file" exception. So I've been missing out on potential tax returns all these years? And what about the dependent claim - I actually don't live with them or receive support beyond my pay. Does that make the dependent claim fraudulent?

0 coins

Dyllan Nantx

•

Yes, you've likely been missing out on potential tax refunds all these years, especially if you were entitled to tax credits like the Earned Income Credit. The dependent claim is almost certainly improper based on what you've described. If you don't live with them and they don't provide more than half your support (housing, food, etc.), then claiming you as a dependent is incorrect. This would indeed make their tax filing potentially fraudulent, as they're claiming a tax benefit they're not entitled to.

0 coins

After reading your situation, I want to share my experience with a similar tax mess. I worked "under the table" for years at my uncle's shop, and when I finally tried to sort out my taxes, I was overwhelmed by the backfiling and potential penalties. I found this service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that helped me navigate my complicated situation. You can upload documentation of your work (even if it's just your own records of hours and payments), and they have tax pros who specialize in addressing unreported income and "under the table" employment. They helped me calculate what I should have been paying all those years and created a plan to get compliant without destroying my finances. The best part was they helped me claim tax credits I never knew I qualified for, which offset some of what I owed. They also created documentation I could use when talking to my relative about the situation.

0 coins

Anna Xian

•

Did they help with the back taxes for multiple years? I'm in a similar situation (4 years of unreported income) and I'm scared to even start the process because I don't know how far back I need to go or how big the penalties might be.

0 coins

Sounds like an ad to me. How much did this service cost? And did the IRS actually accept their "documentation" for income that wasn't reported through official channels? I'm skeptical that any service can magically fix years of tax avoidance.

0 coins

They absolutely helped with my back taxes spanning 6 years. Their tax pros created a strategy to address the most recent years first (typically the IRS is most concerned with the last 3-6 years) and helped me prioritize which years needed immediate attention. The service isn't free, but it's worth every penny compared to the stress and potential penalties of continuing to ignore the situation. The IRS actually has established procedures for reporting income that wasn't properly documented - they helped me use Form 4852 (substitute for W-2) and helped document my cash income in a way that satisfied requirements. The IRS cares more about people becoming compliant than punishing every mistake.

0 coins

Anna Xian

•

I wanted to follow up about taxr.ai since I ended up using their service after asking about it here. I was nervous about my 4 years of unreported income, but they made the process WAY less intimidating than I expected. They walked me through creating documentation of my cash payments, helped me file for the recent tax years, and even found some credits I qualified for that reduced what I owed. The tax specialist explained exactly what I needed to do step by step, including how to handle the conversation with my employer. I've now got proper documentation, I'm square with the IRS (on a reasonable payment plan for what I did owe), and I actually got a small refund for the most recent year after applying the credits they found. Seriously relieved to have this weight off my shoulders.

0 coins

Rajan Walker

•

If you need to actually talk to the IRS about your situation (which you probably should), good luck getting through to them! I spent WEEKS trying to reach someone about my "under the table" employment situation. Kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. I finally used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) to get through to an actual IRS agent. They have this system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you, then calls you when an actual human picks up. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent I spoke with was actually really helpful and walked me through my options for reporting past income and getting into compliance without maximal penalties. They even helped me understand which forms I needed and the best approach for my specific situation.

0 coins

Wait, how does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't you do the same thing yourself if you were willing to wait on hold?

0 coins

Yeah right. So some random service can magically get through the IRS phone system when millions of people can't? The IRS is notoriously understaffed and impossible to reach. I'll believe it when I see it. And even if you do reach someone, they're going to throw the book at you for years of unreported income.

0 coins

Rajan Walker

•

They don't just call for you - their system dials in, navigates all the complicated menu options, waits on hold (sometimes for hours), and then calls you ONLY when a real human IRS agent picks up. So you don't have to waste your day listening to hold music or risk getting disconnected after waiting forever. The IRS is absolutely understaffed, that's why it's so hard to get through normally. But the service has technology that keeps trying and waiting while you go about your day. As for your concern about the IRS "throwing the book at you" - that wasn't my experience at all. The agent I spoke with was focused on helping me become compliant going forward and working out reasonable solutions for the past issues. The IRS generally prefers voluntary compliance over punishment.

0 coins

I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I was desperate enough to try it when I couldn't get through to the IRS for 3 weeks straight about my own tax situation. It actually worked exactly as described - I got a call back when they had an IRS agent on the line. The agent was surprisingly helpful about my situation (some unreported income plus confusion about status as a dependent). They explained the Voluntary Disclosure program which can help minimize penalties when you come forward about unreported income before they come after you. They also confirmed what others said here - being claimed as a dependent incorrectly by someone else is their tax issue, not yours. I'm now working with a tax professional to file my back returns properly. The relief of finally dealing with this after years of anxiety is worth it.

0 coins

I've been in a similar situation (family business, cash payments), and here's what you need to know: your relative is saving a TON of money by keeping you off the books. They're avoiding: - Employer portion of Social Security & Medicare taxes (7.65% of your wages) - Federal unemployment taxes - State unemployment insurance - Workers' compensation insurance - Possibly avoiding income tax on the business income they're using to pay you Plus by claiming you as a dependent, they're getting an additional tax deduction they're not entitled to. Depending on your state, there could be additional violations. You should definitely file your own taxes and start documenting everything. If you're worried about family tension, start by having a conversation where you explain you're concerned about YOUR future (retirement, disability protection, etc.) rather than accusing them directly.

0 coins

Thanks for breaking down what they're saving financially. That actually makes a lot of sense now. Do you think there's a way I can approach this without destroying our relationship? I'm thinking maybe I could suggest we transition to proper employment over a few months so it's not a sudden change for the business?

0 coins

A transition approach is smart. I'd frame it as something you need for your future financial security rather than accusing them of wrongdoing. You could suggest starting with proper documentation of your hours and pay while you both look into what's needed for legitimate employment. Mention specific benefits that matter to you - building Social Security credits for retirement, having verifiable income for apartment applications or loans, eligibility for unemployment if needed, and workers' comp protection. Express that you value the business and your relationship, but need the security of proper employment as you think about your future.

0 coins

Ev Luca

•

Just to give you a heads up - once you start filing taxes correctly, DO NOT file a return claiming yourself if someone else has already claimed you as a dependent. This creates a red flag and both returns will likely be reviewed. Instead, file your return on paper (not electronically) and include a note explaining that someone has incorrectly claimed you. The IRS will investigate and determine who is entitled to claim you. If you haven't been claimed yet for the current tax year, file electronically ASAP and claim yourself. This will block them from e-filing with you as a dependent (their return would be rejected).

0 coins

Avery Davis

•

This happened to my friend and it was a MESS. His parents kept claiming him even though he was financially independent. When he filed correctly, they both got letters from the IRS and it caused huge family drama. But honestly it needed to happen, and after the initial blowup things got sorted properly.

0 coins

Harper Hill

•

I want to add some perspective on the Social Security aspect since it's really important and often overlooked. At $16.75/hour for 24 hours per week, you're earning about $20,904 annually. Over 15 years, that's over $313,000 in wages that haven't been reported to Social Security. To qualify for Social Security retirement benefits, you need 40 "quarters of coverage" (basically 10 years of reported earnings). Right now, you have ZERO quarters despite working for 15 years. This means you're not building toward any retirement benefits at all. Even worse, Social Security benefits are calculated based on your highest 35 years of earnings. Missing these 15 years means those will count as $0 years in your calculation, significantly reducing your eventual monthly benefits. The good news is you can still fix this by filing back tax returns. The IRS generally allows you to file returns for previous years to claim refunds (though there are time limits), and this will also report your earnings to Social Security. You're still young enough that getting into the system now and working legitimately for the next 20-30 years can still result in decent Social Security benefits. But every year you wait makes it harder to build up those credits. This isn't just about current taxes - this is about your ability to retire someday. Your relative may be "old school" but they're literally jeopardizing your future financial security.

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today