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Help with Schedule C for aircraft leasebacks - filing questions for my aviation business

I'm down to the wire here and need some quick advice. I filed an extension earlier this year to get more familiar with tax laws and find a CPA, but got completely sidetracked. With only 2 days left to file, I'm planning to submit something reasonably accurate, pay whatever I owe, then have a CPA file an amended return later (I'm stuck in training for another week - realized how screwed I was when my calendar reminder popped up today). My situation: I work as an aviation mechanic, but I also have a single-member LLC that owns an aircraft. The aircraft is on a marketing agreement with a local flying club. I also do maintenance work for this club, including on my own aircraft (though I don't take any labor pay when working on my own plane). The flying club handles all the money with customers and vendors, then reconciles with my LLC. I've documented well over 500 invested hours furthering my business, so I'm confident this won't be classified as a hobby. I know I'll owe taxes on payments received from the club, but I'm confused about several aspects of Schedule C. This is my first time filling it out without help, and there's very little tax info specific to aviation businesses. My main questions: 1. What business code should I use? Nothing seems to fit perfectly, so I'm wondering if I should just use 99999? 2. For depreciation purposes, what type of asset would an aircraft on a leaseback arrangement be considered? Any guidance would be hugely appreciated before the filing deadline hits!

Dana Doyle

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Some additional advice from an aviation business owner who's been doing this for years: Keep VERY detailed flight logs that clearly show business vs. personal use. The IRS loves to scrutinize aircraft expenses because they assume planes are toys, not legitimate business assets. Document everything - who flew, the business purpose, hours, etc. Also, make sure your lease/marketing agreement with the flying club is properly structured. It should clearly state responsibilities, insurance requirements, maintenance provisions, and how revenue is split. This document will be crucial if you're ever audited. For maintenance records - since you're doing your own work, document your time separately even if you're not charging for it. This helps establish the business purpose and substantiate your "material participation" for tax purposes.

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Thanks for this advice! For the flight logs, I have a digital system through the club that tracks everything, but should I be keeping separate records specifically for tax purposes? And regarding the marketing agreement - it's fairly basic. Should I look into getting a more detailed contract drafted?

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Dana Doyle

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The digital logs from the club are a good start, but I recommend keeping your own backup records specifically focused on the business aspects. For tax purposes, you want to document not just who flew and when, but the specific business purpose of each flight. For instance, if it was a rental, note the customer and purpose. If it was maintenance-related, document what was being tested or verified. Regarding your marketing agreement - yes, absolutely get a more detailed contract. A basic agreement likely won't provide adequate protection in case of an audit. Have an aviation attorney review it to ensure it properly establishes your relationship with the club, ownership rights, maintenance responsibilities, insurance requirements, and how income/expenses are allocated. A proper contract not only protects your business relationship but also helps establish the legitimacy of your business operation to the IRS.

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Liam Duke

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Quick question - is ur aircraft a single engine or multi? I'm looking at buying a Piper Seminole to put on leaseback with a flight school and wondering what kind of depreciation schedule to expect. Also what state are u in? I heard some states have personal property tax on aircraft that can really add up!

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Manny Lark

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Not OP, but I have a Seminole on leaseback in Florida. Multi-engine aircraft typically follow the same 5-year MACRS depreciation schedule, but your operating costs will be substantially higher than a single engine. The real question is whether you'll generate enough rental income to offset the higher costs of operating a twin. For a Seminole, you're looking at roughly $280-350/hr rental rate depending on your market, but your insurance will be significantly higher than a single engine aircraft. As for state taxes, Florida doesn't have personal property tax on aircraft, but many states do. I know California, Texas, and Georgia all have some form of property tax on aircraft that can run 1-2% of the value annually.

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Amara Chukwu

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3 Don't forget about the ordering rules when amending returns. You should amend 2021 first, then 2022, because any changes to 2021 (especially with carried losses) can affect your 2022 return. I learned this the hard way when I had to amend multiple years for my rental property.

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Amara Chukwu

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1 That's a really good point I hadn't considered. If I amend 2021 to show the losses, would any unused losses potentially carry forward to the 2022 return? I'm trying to figure out the right sequence here.

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Amara Chukwu

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3 Yes, exactly. Any disallowed passive losses from 2021 (amounts that exceed what you're allowed to deduct due to the income limitations) would carry forward to 2022. So first figure out your 2021 situation - how much loss you can actually claim after the Form 8582 calculations, then carry any remaining disallowed losses to 2022. Even if you can't deduct all the losses in either year due to the $150K phaseout, having them properly documented and carried forward is important because you can eventually claim them when you dispose of the property. That's why doing them in the right order matters.

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Amara Chukwu

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19 Has anyone tried using tax software for amendments involving rental properties? I'm looking at TurboTax but not sure if it handles the 8582 form well for amended returns.

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Amara Chukwu

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10 I used TaxAct for a similar amendment last year. It was decent with Schedule E but the Form 8582 calculations were confusing. Had to basically understand the form myself to make sure it was done right. Not super user-friendly for rental property amendments.

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I used OLT (OnLine Taxes) last year for my 1040-NR and it worked pretty well for e-filing. It's not as slick looking as some of the bigger names, but they support nonresident forms and it's cheaper than most options. The interface is a bit clunky but if you have a straightforward situation it gets the job done.

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Nia Thompson

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Did OLT handle state returns for nonresidents too? I'm in California and I heard they have a special nonresident state form that's super complicated.

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Yes, OLT does handle state returns for nonresidents including California's form 540NR which is indeed quite complicated. They have specific sections for California's unique rules regarding nonresident income allocation and deductions. The state portion did require a bit more manual input compared to the federal section, especially for segregating California-source income from non-California income. But they provide decent guidance along the way with popup explanations for the trickier parts of nonresident state filing.

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Has anyone tried using a CPA who specializes in nonresident taxes? I'm considering it this year because my situation is complicated with income from teaching, a research grant, and some freelance consulting work from my home country that I'm not sure how to report.

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I went with a specialized international tax CPA last year and it was expensive ($450) but worth it for my complicated situation. He found deductions I never would have known about and properly applied tax treaty benefits. If you have multiple income sources like you described, it might be worth the investment.

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Adaline Wong

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Have you looked into whether your employer would be open to switching you from W-2 to 1099 independent contractor status? That would allow you to deduct ALL your business mileage. Just something to consider if they won't do an accountable plan.

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I actually asked about that last year, but my company said they can't do it because of how they control my schedule and work processes. Something about the IRS having specific tests for who qualifies as an independent contractor vs. employee. They also mentioned it would mean losing my benefits like health insurance and 401k matching.

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Adaline Wong

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That makes sense. The classification rules are pretty strict and the IRS looks at factors like behavioral control, financial control, and relationship factors. If the company controls when and how you work, provides tools/equipment, offers benefits, etc., they're probably correct that you should be classified as an employee. Be careful pushing for 1099 status just for tax deductions - if misclassified, it could create bigger headaches down the road for both you and the employer. The accountable plan route others suggested is probably your best option at this point.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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One option nobody's mentioned - some companies will pay you a higher commission rate instead of reimbursing expenses. I negotiated this at my last sales job - they bumped my commission from 7% to 9% to cover my vehicle expenses, which actually worked out better for me in the end. Might be worth asking!

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This is what I did too. My company was resistant to dealing with expense reports, so they just increased my commission structure. Just make sure you do the math first - calculate what your annual mileage reimbursement would actually be (miles Ɨ IRS rate) and make sure the commission increase at least covers that amount.

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Ethan Wilson

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Another option is to make quarterly estimated tax payments specifically for your interest income. That's what I do since my interest varies a lot and I don't want to mess with my regular withholding. You can use Form 1040-ES and just pay the estimated tax on your interest each quarter. This way your regular paycheck withholding remains unchanged. Personally I think it's cleaner than adjusting your W-4 since you're separating the two income streams. The downside is you have to remember to make those quarterly payments.

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I hadn't considered quarterly payments. Do you just divide your estimated annual interest tax by 4 and pay that amount each quarter? Are there specific deadlines I would need to remember? I'm worried I might forget and then end up with penalties anyway.

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Ethan Wilson

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Yes, you can divide your estimated annual interest tax by 4 for equal payments. The deadlines are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. I just set calendar reminders. You don't necessarily have to make equal payments though - you can adjust each quarterly payment based on how much interest you've actually earned that quarter. This is especially helpful if your interest income is unpredictable. The IRS Form 1040-ES has worksheets to help you calculate this. The key is making sure you've paid enough throughout the year to avoid the underpayment penalty.

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Yuki Sato

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Why not just put your money in tax-advantaged accounts instead? I moved most of my savings into I-bonds and my Roth IRA. The I-bonds defer the tax until you cash them out, and the Roth grows tax-free. Solved my withholding problem completely!

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Not everyone can just move their money into tax-advantaged accounts though. What if you need access to your savings before retirement? Roth has penalties for early withdrawal and I-bonds have to be held for at least a year. Some of us need more liquidity than that provides.

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