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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that your aunt's Social Security might become partially taxable if her income goes up from these IRA distributions. If her only income is $850/month in SS benefits, she's probably not paying federal income tax now. But adding taxable distributions from the inherited IRA might push her into having some of her Social Security become taxable too. There's a calculation for "combined income" (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of Social Security benefits). If that exceeds certain thresholds, up to 85% of SS benefits can become taxable.
Oh no, I didn't even think about that! Is there some way she can plan these withdrawals to minimize the tax impact on her Social Security? She really relies on that money.
Your aunt might want to carefully plan her withdrawals to stay under the threshold where Social Security becomes taxable if possible. For a single filer, Social Security can become partially taxable when combined income exceeds $25,000. She should also check if her state taxes Social Security benefits - some states do while others don't. Given her situation, she might want to talk to a tax professional who specializes in retirement planning for low-income individuals. Some communities offer free tax counseling for seniors through programs like VITA or Tax-Aide that could help her plan this out.
Has anyone mentioned Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) yet? Depending on when the original account owner died and the relationship between them, your aunt might be required to withdraw a certain amount each year according to specific schedules. The SECURE Act changed a lot of these rules in 2020. For most non-spouse beneficiaries who inherited after 2019, there's now a 10-year rule requiring the account to be fully distributed within 10 years of the original owner's death.
The 10-year rule doesn't apply the same way to all inherited accounts though. If the original owner had already started RMDs, the beneficiary might need to continue taking annual distributions AND empty the account within 10 years. It got even more complicated with the SECURE 2.0 Act.
Just want to add that I went through this same thing in 2022 when my restaurant closed suddenly. Form 4852 is definitely the way to go, but don't stress too much about getting the numbers exactly perfect. Make your best estimate based on whatever records you have. What helped me most was looking at my bank statements and counting up all the deposits from that employer. I then worked backward to figure out approximately what my gross wages and withholding would have been based on my tax bracket. The IRS was actually pretty understanding about the whole situation. Just document your good faith efforts to get accurate information.
Did you end up getting any notices or letters from the IRS after filing with the substitute W2 form? That's what I'm most worried about - getting some scary letter months later saying my numbers don't match their records.
I didn't get any notices from the IRS after filing with the substitute form. I was worried about the same thing, but it seems like they handle these situations fairly routinely. If your former employer never reported your wages to the IRS (which seems to be the case based on your wage transcript), then there's nothing for your estimates to "not match" against in their system. The key is making a reasonable, good faith effort to report accurately and keeping documentation of how you arrived at your figures in case questions ever do come up.
Can you try reaching out to any former coworkers? They might be in the same boat and maybe one of them has managed to get their W2 or has better information. Sometimes different employees get different results when pestering former employers. Also, don't forget you can request a tax transcript directly from the IRS as another way to verify if wages were reported under your SSN. Oh wait, you already did that... sorry missed that part. Yeah, sounds like they never filed anything.
This is good advice! I actually had success with this approach. Found a former manager on LinkedIn who had contact info for the payroll company they used. Turns out the payroll company still had all our records even though the business closed.
For what it's worth, I had this exact same issue with Wealthfront and FreeTaxUSA last year. In my case, I found that I needed to look at the supplemental tax information that Wealthfront provides beyond just the 1099-DIV. There's usually a state-by-state breakdown that shows which portion of your dividends are exempt from state taxes for each state.
Where exactly did you find this supplemental information? I've looked all over my Wealthfront account and can't seem to locate any state-by-state breakdown. Is it a separate document they send?
It should be available in your Wealthfront tax documents section when you log in. Look for something called "Supplemental Tax Information" or "State Tax Information." It's often a separate PDF from your main 1099-DIV. If you don't see it there, check your email for tax document notifications from Wealthfront - sometimes they include links to all the supplemental forms. As a last resort, you can contact Wealthfront support directly and request the state tax exemption breakdown.
Anyone know if these state tax-exempt dividend issues work the same way in TaxHawk? I've heard it's basically the same as FreeTaxUSA but with a different name.
Yes, TaxHawk and FreeTaxUSA are actually the same company/software with different branding. The interface and how you enter state tax-exempt dividends would be identical in both.
Another thing to watch for on your K1 is unreimbursed partnership expenses in box 13 code W. I missed this my first year and it cost me. These are expenses you paid personally for the partnership that you can deduct. Common for smaller partnerships where partners sometimes cover expenses out of pocket.
Are those still deductible? I thought the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act eliminated unreimbursed partnership expense deductions? My accountant told me they're not deductible anymore for 2023 taxes.
You're mixing up two different things. The TCJA eliminated unreimbursed employee business expenses (that used to be on Schedule A), but unreimbursed partnership expenses reported on K-1 are still deductible. If you're a partner and you pay for business expenses out of pocket (without being reimbursed), these expenses can still be deducted on your Schedule E. The key is that they must be properly reported on your K-1 in box 13 with code W. This is different from employee expenses - it's because as a partner, you're not an employee of the partnership.
Just a practical tip - check if your K1 has any entries in Box 20 (for partnerships) or Box 17 (for S-corps) labeled as "tax basis capital account." This is super important. If it shows a negative amount, you might have a taxable gain even if you don't receive any distributions! I learned this the hard way.
Could you explain more about why a negative amount creates a taxable gain? I think mine shows negative but I didn't report anything extra and now I'm worried.
Zoe Wang
Hate to be that person, but this marriage tax situation was a major reason my partner and I decided not to get legally married. We did the math with our accountant and realized we'd pay about $4,500 MORE per year in taxes if we got married (we both make similar six-figure incomes). It's bizarre that the tax code effectively penalizes some married couples. We had a commitment ceremony instead and keep our finances and tax filings separate. Not the right choice for everyone, but something to consider if the marriage tax hit is substantial.
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Connor Richards
ā¢Does your accountant take into consideration things like health insurance, Social Security survivor benefits, inheritance laws, etc? The tax piece is just one part of the financial picture of marriage. Curious how those other factors weighed in.
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Zoe Wang
ā¢Yes, we did a comprehensive analysis. For our specific situation (both have good employer health insurance, substantial retirement savings, and have proper estate planning with attorneys), the tax penalty outweighed other benefits by a significant margin. We're fortunate to be in a state that has strong domestic partnership protections. We don't have children and have advanced healthcare directives in place. It's definitely not a one-size-fits-all decision, but the tax impact was too substantial for us to ignore.
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Grace Durand
Everyone's talking about withholdings but what about your mortgage interest? When you were single, whoever claimed the mortgage got a big tax benefit relative to their solo income. Now that $28k interest is spread across your combined higher income, making it proportionally less impactful. Plus, are you still itemizing? Many married couples find they're better off with the standard deduction ($25,900 for 2022) than itemizing, especially if mortgage interest is your main deduction. Could be another part of your surprise tax bill.
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Steven Adams
ā¢This is an excellent point that many people miss. When you combine incomes but have the same deductions, those deductions have less "power" to reduce your overall tax liability.
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