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One important thing to note about the Lifetime Learning credit that nobody mentioned yet - it's non-refundable, unlike part of the American Opportunity Credit. This means if your tax liability is reduced to zero, you don't get any remaining credit amount refunded to you. Also, there are income limits! For 2024, the credit starts phasing out at modified AGI of $80,000 for single filers or $160,000 for joint filers. If you make more than $90,000 single/$180,000 joint, you can't claim it at all.
Thanks for mentioning the non-refundable aspect - that's really important! My AGI is around $65k so sounds like I'm okay on the income limits. Do you happen to know if I can claim this credit if I already used some tuition reimbursement from my employer? My company covered about $500 of the $1,800 course.
You're definitely under the income limits at $65k, so no problem there! For the employer reimbursement, you can only claim the Lifetime Learning credit on expenses you actually paid yourself, not expenses reimbursed by your employer. So in your case, you could only claim the credit on $1,300 of your tuition ($1,800 minus the $500 your employer paid). Make sure you reduce your qualified expenses by the amount of tax-free educational assistance you received.
i had the exact same question last year! just want to add that you should check your state tax too - some states have their own education credits on top of the federal ones. i got an extra $150 credit on my state return that i almost missed.
Just to add a bit more clarity to this discussion: There's actually a specific order you should follow to avoid confusion: 1. Fill out Schedule A completely first, including all your charitable contributions 2. Compare your Schedule A total to your standard deduction amount 3. If Schedule A total is higher, use that and transfer the amount to line 12 of Form 1040 4. If standard deduction is higher, use that AND you can still claim up to $600 on line 10-B for charitable cash contributions Remember that the $600 special deduction ($300 per person) was temporarily increased for 2021, but check the current year's instructions for the exact limit since it changes.
Is the $600 limit per person or per return? Like if I'm married filing jointly, do we get $1,200 total or still just $600?
The limit is per tax return for single filers, but for married filing jointly, it's per person. So for 2021 (which had the $300 per person limit), a married couple filing jointly could claim up to $600 total on line 10-B if taking the standard deduction. The exact limits have changed over the years as this was a temporary provision, so always check the current year's instructions. The most important thing is that this special deduction on line 10-B is ONLY for people taking the standard deduction. If you itemize, you'll include all charitable contributions on Schedule A instead.
Has anyone had TurboTax give them an error when trying to enter charitable contributions both on Schedule A and Line 10-B? I keep getting a warning saying I can't do both, but my accountant friend said it's possible depending on your situation.
4 Hey, just wanted to share what I did in a similar situation. My husband and I got married mid-2023, and I was working while he was in med school. I actually filled out my W4 as "Married filing jointly" but then used the "Multiple Jobs Worksheet" that comes with the W4 form to calculate additional withholding. It worked perfectly - we ended up with a small refund instead of owing. The key is that Step 2 of the form lets you account for situations where one spouse works or when both work but earn different amounts.
11 Did you have to do the worksheet thing every time you got paid? Or is it just once when you fill out the W4?
4 You only need to do the worksheet once when you initially fill out the W4. The calculations help you determine an extra amount to have withheld from each paycheck, which you'll put on line 4(c) of the form. Your employer then automatically withholds that additional amount along with your regular withholding from each paycheck. When your situation changes (like when your wife starts working in April), you'll want to complete a new W4 with new calculations. But day-to-day or paycheck-to-paycheck, there's nothing additional you need to do once the form is submitted to your employer.
19 Is anyone else annoyed that the W4 became so complicated after they redesigned it? I miss the old simple withholding allowances. Now I feel like I need an accounting degree just to fill out a basic form...
Remember that if this is a Final K-1, you need to check if the distribution exceeds your client's basis in the partnership interest. If it does, the excess is generally treated as capital gain. Section 731(a) covers this. The tricky part with partnership-to-partnership distributions is applying the tiered partnership rules correctly. Make sure you're accounting for any Section 751 "hot assets" in the distributing partnership as well.
Thanks for bringing up Section 731(a)! The distribution amount is actually less than their basis, so I think we're ok there. But can you explain more about these "hot assets" you mentioned? I'm not familiar with Section 751 in this context.
Section 751 "hot assets" refer to unrealized receivables and substantially appreciated inventory. When a partnership distributes cash or property, you need to determine if any portion is attributable to these hot assets. The significance is that distributions attributable to hot assets are treated as ordinary income rather than capital gain, even if the distribution exceeds basis. This prevents converting what would be ordinary income into capital gain. In a partnership-to-partnership scenario, this analysis needs to be done at both partnership levels, which gets complex quickly.
Has anyone mentioned carried interest yet? If this partnership investment involves any carried interest arrangements, that adds another layer to track correctly. The tax treatment can vary significantly.
Lucas Bey
Has anyone tried H&R Block for HSA contributions? I'm wondering if they charge extra for Form 8889 too or if it's included in their basic package.
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Harper Thompson
ā¢I used H&R Block last year with an HSA and they also required an upgrade to their Deluxe version which was around $55 for federal. Not as bad as TaxAct apparently, but still an upsell from their basic/free version.
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Lucas Bey
ā¢Thanks for letting me know about the H&R Block pricing. $55 is still better than $110 but more than I want to pay just for one extra form. Might try FreeTaxUSA or one of the other options mentioned here since my tax situation is pretty simple besides the HSA.
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Caleb Stark
I've been using TurboTax for years and they pull the same trick with HSAs. Started using FreeTaxUSA two years ago and never looked back. They include Form 8889 in their standard package which is completely free for federal filing. You only pay like $15 for state filing which is way cheaper than the $110 TaxAct is trying to charge you. The interface isn't as pretty as TurboTax or TaxAct but it gets the job done and doesn't try to upsell you for every little form.
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Chris King
ā¢Thanks everyone for the suggestions! I'm going to try FreeTaxUSA since so many of you recommended it. Can't believe these companies get away with charging $50+ just to file a simple HSA form. Will report back if I run into any other issues!
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