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I converted my primary residence to a rental back in 2022 and learned this lesson the hard way. Make sure you keep VERY detailed records of when the property was first "in service" as a rental! Also, don't forget to take depreciation starting from the month you placed it in service. I messed this up and had to file an amended return. The IRS is very particular about rental property reporting.
Has anyone ever used TurboTax for this scenario? I'm trying to figure out if it automatically prorates property taxes when you enter the "in service" date for a rental conversion or if I need to manually calculate the prorated amount before entering it.
I used TurboTax last year for my rental and it didn't automatically prorate anything! I had to calculate all the prorated amounts myself before entering them. The in-service date is mainly used for depreciation calculations, not for prorating your other expenses like property taxes or insurance.
Something else to consider - apply to multiple types of tax prep companies! I had no luck with the big firms (H&R, Liberty, etc.) but small local accounting offices were much more willing to take a chance on me with no experience. They often need extra hands during tax season and will provide on-the-job training. That first season experience, even at a small firm, makes your resume WAY stronger for next year.
Was the pay decent at the smaller firms? I'm a bit worried about taking a huge pay cut for my first tax season, but I understand I might need to "pay my dues" to break into the industry.
The pay at smaller firms varies widely. Some paid less than the national chains (around $15-18/hr in my area), but others actually paid more because they were looking for people they could train to handle more complex returns. I started at $19/hr with a small local firm and got a $3 performance bonus for each return with no errors. The real advantage was the training quality - I got to work directly with the firm's owner and learned way more than my friends who went to the big chains. After just one season, I was able to command $28/hr the following year because I had experience with business returns, not just basic 1040s.
Don't forget to check which tax software the firms you're applying to use! Most use either UltraTax, Drake, ProSeries, or Lacerte. Is there a way you could get some basic familiarity with one of these before interviewing? Even being able to say "I've completed the Drake Software tutorial" gives you an edge over other newbies.
Former payroll specialist here. Another reason for the delay many people don't realize: payroll systems and tax reporting systems are often completely separate in many companies. Year-end isn't just pressing a button - it's a complex reconciliation process between multiple systems. Some companies also have to deal with special situations like third-party sick pay, allocated tips, or employer-provided vehicle calculations that need additional data from outside vendors before finalizing W-2s. Plus many employers are simultaneously closing their books for the year, running annual financial reporting, AND preparing tax documents.
Is there any advantage to filing these documents earlier than the January 31 deadline? Like do some companies actually send them out early or does literally everyone wait until the last possible day?
Some companies do issue forms earlier, particularly larger organizations with dedicated tax departments. However, there's little incentive to rush since early distribution increases the risk of having to issue corrections if errors are found later. Filing early doesn't provide any tax benefit to the company itself. Many smaller businesses genuinely need that full time period to ensure accuracy, especially if they use external accountants who are handling year-end for multiple clients simultaneously. The deadline exists because the IRS recognizes this process takes time to get right, not because companies are trying to withhold your information.
Quick question - my employer always mails physical W-2s even though everything else is electronic. Is there a way to request electronic W-2s instead? Seems so wasteful and slower!
Sales tax on delivery is super state-specific, but here's what I know for your states: Michigan: Delivery charges are not taxable if they're separately stated on the invoice Ohio: Delivery charges are generally taxable as part of the sale Indiana: Delivery charges are not taxable if separately itemized For the question about buying retail and already paying tax - you're doing it wrong! Get your resale certificate ASAP. You're cutting into your own profits by paying tax twice. The correct flow is: 1. You buy salt tax-free with resale cert 2. You charge customer tax according to state rules 3. You remit that tax to the state
Thanks for breaking it down state by state! How difficult is it to get a resale certificate in these states? And do I need a separate one for each state or is there some kind of multi-state option?
Getting resale certificates for those states isn't too difficult. You'll need to register for sales tax permits in each state separately - there's no multi-state option unfortunately. Michigan and Indiana have fairly straightforward online applications, while Ohio's is a bit more involved but still manageable. For Michigan, you'll apply for a Sales Tax License through Michigan Treasury Online. Indiana uses INTIME for their Registered Retail Merchant Certificate. Ohio requires you to register through their Ohio Business Gateway. Each application typically takes 20-30 minutes to complete if you have your business information ready. Expect to receive your certificates within 1-3 weeks depending on the state.
I literally just went through this exact situation with my mobile pet grooming business! We charge for products (shampoos, conditioners) and then the grooming service. What made it extra confusing was the different rules for each county. Found out that keeping super clear records with separate line items is KEY. When I was audited (yeah, lucky me), having everything clearly separated saved me from a huge headache. Make sure your invoices clearly show: 1) Product cost (taxable in all states) 2) Delivery fee (taxable in some states) 3) The applicable tax rate for the delivery location Keep digital copies of EVERYTHING. Trust me on this one!
Freya Thomsen
If you're computer savvy, there's actually another option nobody has mentioned. You can use tax preparation software meant for professionals like ProSeries or Drake. They often have the forms available earlier because tax professionals need them sooner. The learning curve is steeper, but most have free trials and they're extremely powerful. I switched to Drake a few years ago after getting fed up with consumer tax software limitations, and I've never looked back.
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Omar Zaki
ā¢Interesting! Does this professional software cost a lot more than regular consumer versions? And would a regular person even be able to figure it out without a tax background?
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Freya Thomsen
ā¢They are more expensive if you buy the full package - usually a few hundred dollars. However, most offer a pay-per-return option that might end up around $25-40 for a federal and state return, which is actually competitive with the premium consumer packages. The interface definitely takes some getting used to, but if you're comfortable with your tax situation enough to recognize what forms you need, it's manageable. They're designed to be efficient rather than hand-holding. Drake is probably the most approachable for non-professionals. They have decent help resources and you don't need a tax background - just patience with a less polished interface. If you're technical enough to ask about file imports, you could probably handle it.
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AstroAce
Has anyone just printed out Form 4684 and done it manually? You can still e-file the rest of your return through TurboTax and just mail in the 4684 separately with a 1040-X later when it becomes available. That's what I did last year with a delayed schedule.
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Chloe Martin
ā¢This doesn't work for Form 4684 unfortunately. Since it affects your AGI and potentially other calculations, you can't just add it later. The IRS would reject both returns. I tried something similar last year and it was a massive headache fixing it all.
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