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Just wondering - does being in CNC status stop penalties and interest from accruing on the tax debt? I'm considering applying for it myself.
No, it doesn't stop penalties and interest unfortunately. Your debt keeps growing while in CNC, but at least they're not actively trying to collect from you. It's a temporary solution, not forgiveness.
I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago! Got the 433-F request after being in CNC for about 20 months. I was terrified they were going to kick me out because my freelance income had gone up slightly. Here's what I learned: The key is being thorough and honest about ALL your expenses, not just focusing on income changes. Document everything - rent, utilities, groceries, car payments, insurance, medical costs, childcare, etc. The IRS uses standard allowable living expense amounts, but they'll consider documented expenses above those standards if you can prove they're necessary. In my case, even though my income increased by about $6k annually, my rent had gone up significantly and I had new prescription costs that weren't there before. I made sure to include every receipt and explanation. They kept me in CNC status because my actual ability to pay hadn't really improved. The review process took about 6 weeks total from when I submitted the form. Don't ignore it - that's the one thing that will definitely get you kicked out of CNC. But don't panic either. If your financial situation is still legitimately tight, you'll likely be fine.
It seems, perhaps, that there might be a possible workaround worth exploring. In some cases, the IRS Taxpayer Assistance Centers can potentially accept alternative documentation for children in lieu of the actual Social Security card. This might include a birth certificate along with medical records showing your child's SSN, or possibly school records with the SSN listed. I was, quite frankly, surprised to learn this when I faced a somewhat similar situation. You would likely need to call ahead to the specific TAC office where you plan to verify and ask if they can accommodate this exception given your circumstances. The flexibility varies significantly by location and individual IRS employee discretion.
I'm going through something very similar right now - filed in late January and have been stuck in verification limbo for weeks. What's been most helpful for me is keeping detailed records of every call, including the representative's ID number and exactly what they told me. The inconsistent information is maddening, but having those records helped when I finally reached someone who could actually see my full account status. One thing that might help while you're waiting for the Social Security card - call your local SSA office directly and ask about expedited processing due to IRS verification needs. Some offices can flag your request as urgent for tax purposes. Also, if you have any other documents with your child's SSN on them (like tax documents from previous years, insurance cards, or medical records), bring those as backup even though they might not accept them. I've heard some TAC offices are more flexible than others depending on your specific situation. The financial strain is real - I totally get it. Have you looked into whether your state has any emergency assistance programs while you're waiting? Some states offer short-term help specifically for tax refund delays.
Has anyone else noticed that the IRS sometimes flags returns with newly issued SSNs for review? This happened to my sister. It didn't mean anything was wrong, but her refund was delayed by like 8 weeks. Might want to file early if you can!
Yes! This happened to me too. I think they do additional verification for first-time filers with new SSNs. I filed in February and didn't get my refund until early May. Definitely file as early as possible.
I had a very similar situation when I got my SSN in late 2023! Just wanted to confirm what others have said and add a few practical tips: You're absolutely eligible for both credits. The Child Tax Credit has no timing requirements for when YOU got your SSN - only that your daughter has a valid SSN (which she does). For EIC, as long as you have your SSN by the filing deadline, you're good. A few things that helped me: 1. Keep all documentation showing when you received your SSN - sometimes they ask for verification 2. If you're using tax software, it might flag your return as "unusual" but don't worry, that's normal for first-time filers 3. Consider filing a paper return if the software gives you trouble - I had issues with TurboTax not recognizing my situation properly Also, make sure you understand the income limits for both credits. EIC has pretty generous limits especially with a qualifying child, but CTC starts phasing out at higher incomes. Good luck with your filing!
One thing no one has mentioned - if your OIC gets approved, you'll be on a compliance period for 5 years. You have to file all returns on time and pay all required taxes when due, or they can revoke the OIC and reinstate the full original debt plus interest. Also, any tax refunds you would get during the year your OIC is accepted will be kept by the IRS.
Lucas, I was in a very similar situation - owed about $18k from a 1099 mix-up and was paying $300/month that felt like it was going nowhere. The OIC process is definitely worth exploring, but you need to be realistic about your chances. The key thing is your "reasonable collection potential" - basically what the IRS thinks they can realistically collect from you over the next 1-2 years through your current payment plan. If you're healthy, employed, and can maintain that $250/month payment, they might not see you as a good OIC candidate. That said, if your financial situation has changed since you started the installment plan (lower income, increased necessary expenses, health issues, etc.), you might have a stronger case. The IRS approved my OIC for about 40% of what I owed, but my income had dropped significantly due to a job change. Before you dive in, I'd suggest getting on the phone with the IRS to discuss your options. They can sometimes modify your existing installment agreement to lower payments if your circumstances have changed, which might be easier than going through the whole OIC process. Just be prepared for the phone system nightmare - it took me multiple attempts to get through to someone who could actually help.
KingKongZilla
One option nobody's mentioned yet - have you considered an Offer in Compromise? If your financial situation truly doesn't allow you to pay the full amount, even over time, you might qualify to settle the debt for less than you owe. The 433-F is actually part of that application process too.
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Rebecca Johnston
ā¢Offers in Compromise are REALLY hard to get approved though. The IRS rejects most of them. They want to see that you have no possible way to pay the full amount over time. Since OP mentioned having enough assets to potentially pay down to $50k, I doubt they'd qualify.
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Sofia Martinez
I went through almost the exact same situation last year with an inherited 401k that created a huge tax bill. Here's what I learned from experience: The IRS will definitely scrutinize your Form 433-F carefully when the amount is over $50k, but they're not necessarily looking to reject your installment plan - they just want to make sure you're paying what you reasonably can afford each month. That said, if you have the ability to pay down to $50k first, I'd strongly recommend doing that. The streamlined installment agreement process for amounts under $50k is SO much simpler. You'll avoid the 433-F entirely, get faster approval (often automatic), and have fewer ongoing compliance requirements. One thing to consider: even if you pay down to $50k initially, you can always request to modify your payment plan later if your financial situation changes. The IRS is generally willing to work with taxpayers who are making good faith efforts to pay. Also make sure you're factoring in the setup fee for the installment agreement ($31-225 depending on how you apply and pay) and the ongoing interest/penalties. Sometimes it's worth exploring other financing options first if you have good credit.
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AstroAce
ā¢This is really helpful advice, thank you! I'm curious about the setup fees you mentioned - is there a way to get those waived or reduced? I've heard that low-income taxpayers might qualify for fee reductions, but I'm not sure what the income thresholds are or if that would apply to someone with a large tax bill from a one-time event like an inheritance. Also, when you say the IRS is willing to modify payment plans later - how difficult is that process? Do you have to go through the whole application again or is it more straightforward?
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