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Ravi Sharma

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This is exactly the kind of detailed breakdown I was looking for! Thank you everyone for the clarification on combining Section 179 with bonus depreciation for 2023. Just to confirm I understand correctly - since my Escalade weighs over 6,000 lbs GVWR, I can take the full $28,900 Section 179 deduction, then apply 80% bonus depreciation to the remaining $63,100 basis ($50,480), giving me a total first-year deduction of $79,380. That leaves only $12,620 to depreciate over the remaining years. This is way better than I expected! My accountant made it sound like I'd be limited to much less. I'm definitely going to double-check my mileage logs to make sure I have proper documentation for 100% business use - that recapture warning is noted. One quick follow-up: do I need to make any special elections on my tax return for the bonus depreciation, or does it apply automatically once I elect Section 179?

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Carmen Vega

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You need to make a separate election for bonus depreciation - it doesn't happen automatically when you elect Section 179. On Form 4562, you'll need to check the box on line 14 to elect bonus depreciation, and then report your Section 179 deduction on line 12. Make sure you also attach a statement to your return listing the specific property you're electing bonus depreciation for (your Escalade in this case). The IRS wants to see that you're making a conscious choice to use bonus depreciation rather than just taking regular MACRS depreciation. Your calculation looks spot-on though - $79,380 total first-year deduction is a great result for your $92,000 purchase!

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Great discussion everyone! I just wanted to add one important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you're aware of the recapture rules if you're financing the vehicle. If you're making payments on the Escalade, you need to be extra careful about maintaining that 100% business use percentage throughout the loan term. The IRS can challenge your deduction if your business use drops significantly in future years, and with such a large first-year deduction ($79,380), the recapture taxes could be substantial. Also, don't forget that you'll need to reduce your Section 179 deduction by any personal use percentage. Since you mentioned 100% business use, you're good, but if that changes in future years, you'll need to adjust accordingly. One more tip: consider setting up a separate business bank account just for vehicle-related expenses (insurance, maintenance, gas, etc.) to make tracking easier during an audit. The IRS loves clear documentation trails for expensive business vehicle deductions.

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Sophia Long

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This is really helpful advice about the recapture rules! I hadn't thought about how financing could complicate things if business use drops later. The separate business bank account is a great tip too - I've been mixing vehicle expenses with other business costs and that could definitely create headaches during an audit. Quick question though - if I'm using the vehicle 100% for business now but anticipate maybe using it personally in a few years (like when my kids get older), would it be better to claim a lower business use percentage upfront to avoid potential recapture issues? Or is it better to maximize the deduction now and deal with recapture if/when it happens?

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Nia Watson

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For the W4 specifically, don't overlook the "Additional income" section in Step 4(a). If you leave this blank, the system assumes your current job is your only source of income. If that's true, then your withholding will be calculated assuming all your income is in lower tax brackets. But if you have a second job or significant investment income, you should fill this out to avoid a surprise tax bill. For someone with only one job trying to maximize take-home pay, make sure this section is blank (unless you do have other income).

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Derek Olson

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So I just have the one job, no investments or side gigs - that sounds like leaving 4(a) blank would help me? Would claiming additional deductions in 4(b) also help increase my paycheck, or is that more complicated? I'm honestly not even sure what deductions I qualify for.

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Nia Watson

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Yes, leaving 4(a) blank is correct for your situation with just one job. That helps ensure you're not being over-withheld based on assumptions about multiple income sources. For 4(b), you could list deductions that exceed the standard deduction amount (which is $13,850 for single filers in 2025). This includes things like mortgage interest, large charitable donations, or certain medical expenses. If you don't itemize deductions or your itemized deductions don't exceed the standard amount, then you wouldn't put anything in 4(b) either. For most people with straightforward tax situations, the standard deduction is higher than their itemized deductions would be.

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My company's payroll system has an option where you can just request a specific additional dollar amount to be withheld, rather than messing with all the dependent stuff. Maybe look for something like that? I just put in "-$100" and got an extra hundred bucks per paycheck. Been doing it for years with no issues.

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That's really dangerous advice. You can't just put in whatever random negative number you want. That could lead to serious underwithholding and penalties. The IRS redesigned the W-4 specifically to prevent people from manipulating their withholding like that.

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Pedro Sawyer

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I'm sorry you're going through this - the combination of family health crises and financial stress makes tax issues feel so much more overwhelming. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like contacting the IRS directly might be your best first step, especially given your budget constraints. A few things that might help ease your anxiety about calling: The IRS has specific hardship provisions for situations exactly like yours. When you call, mention the family medical situations (your mom's terminal illness, your dad's passing, your brother's depression) as these are considered reasonable cause for filing delays and can help with penalty relief. For your kids' FAFSA situation, you might not need to file ALL the missing years immediately - sometimes just getting the most recent 2-3 years filed can unblock their financial aid process. You could ask the IRS agent which years are most critical to prioritize. Also, don't feel like you have to solve everything in one phone call. The IRS agents are used to complex situations and can often work with you on a timeline that makes sense for your circumstances. The fact that you're reaching out proactively (rather than waiting for them to find you) will work in your favor. You've already survived incredibly difficult personal circumstances - you can get through this too.

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Thank you so much for this compassionate response. You're right that the combination of everything has made this feel completely overwhelming. It's really helpful to hear that the IRS has specific provisions for family medical situations - I wasn't sure if they would consider those circumstances relevant. The point about prioritizing just the most recent years for FAFSA is huge. My oldest is starting college next fall and we've been stuck in limbo with financial aid. If I could get even 2-3 years filed quickly, that would take so much pressure off. I think I'm going to start by calling the main IRS line tomorrow and being completely honest about the situation. Reading everyone's experiences here has given me hope that they might be more understanding than I feared. At this point, anything is better than continuing to avoid the problem.

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I want to echo what others have said about contacting the IRS directly - they really can be more helpful than you'd expect, especially when you're proactive about resolving the situation. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the Taxpayer Advocate Service (TAS). Since you're dealing with significant financial hardship AND your children's education is being affected, you might qualify for their help. TAS is an independent organization within the IRS that helps taxpayers resolve problems when normal channels aren't working. They're free and can sometimes expedite cases where there's educational or economic hardship. You can reach them at 1-877-777-4778 or apply online. Given that your kids' FAFSA is being held up, this could potentially qualify as causing "significant hardship" which is exactly what TAS is designed to help with. Also, when you do call the main IRS line, ask specifically about "reasonable cause" relief for penalties due to your family's medical circumstances. The IRS has specific guidelines that consider serious illness of immediate family members as valid reasons for filing delays, which could save you thousands in penalties. You've got this - the hardest part is making that first call, and you're already mentally preparing to do it.

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Just a personal data point - I had about $2400 in CEQP/P dividends in my IRA last year and my custodian (TD Ameritrade) filed the 990-T for me. They took about $320 from my IRA to pay the taxes. I didn't have to do anything except they sent me a copy of the filing for my records. I've since moved most of my MLP investments to my taxable account because even though there's more personal tax complexity, at least I don't lose part of my retirement savings to taxes before withdrawal.

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Omar Hassan

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to know. Seems like about 13% went to taxes in your case. I'll definitely check with Vanguard to see if they've already handled this for me. Did TD Ameritrade charge an additional fee for filing the 990-T beyond the actual tax payment?

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Yes, they did charge a $49 fee for preparing and filing the 990-T on top of the actual tax payment. So between the taxes and the fee, it definitely cut into my returns. I believe some custodians charge even more, so it's worth checking with Vanguard about their fee structure too.

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Evelyn Xu

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I went through a similar situation with CEQP/P in my Roth IRA last year. The key thing to understand is that your $1,318 in dividends likely generated UBTI since CEQP/P is structured as a Master Limited Partnership. The $43 loss from selling shares won't offset the dividend income for UBTI purposes - they're treated separately. Since you're over the $1,000 UBTI threshold, your IRA custodian should have filed Form 990-T and paid taxes directly from your IRA assets. I'd recommend calling Vanguard specifically and asking to speak with someone about "UBTI and 990-T filings" for your IRA account. Regular customer service reps often don't understand these issues, so you might need to ask for a specialist. Also check if Vanguard charges a fee for 990-T filings - many custodians do. This might influence your future investment decisions about holding MLPs in retirement accounts versus taxable accounts.

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Dylan Baskin

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a very similar situation with CEQP/P in my IRA and had no idea about the UBTI implications until reading this thread. Quick question - when you called about the 990-T filing, did Vanguard proactively send you a copy of the form they filed, or did you have to specifically request it? I want to make sure I have documentation for my records, especially if there were taxes paid from my account that I wasn't aware of.

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As a PA resident myself, just remember that Pennsylvania has a flat tax rate (3.07%) which makes the state portion pretty straightforward compared to other states. That's something to consider when deciding whether to pay someone. For what it's worth, my husband and I paid $180 at a local tax office last year for a similar situation (W-2s, some stocks, and interest). We're doing it ourselves this year because it wasn't complicated enough to justify the cost.

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Don't forget about local taxes in PA though! Depending on where you live, you might have additional local income taxes (usually 1%) that need to be filed separately. Some tax software doesn't handle these well.

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Brian, I totally understand the tax anxiety! I was in a very similar situation last year - W-2, some Robinhood trading, and interest income from my savings account. The stress was real. I ended up going with a local CPA and paid $195 for both federal and PA state returns. What made it worth it for me was the peace of mind and the fact that she caught a deduction I didn't even know existed (home office expenses since I worked remotely part of the year). That said, after seeing how straightforward my situation actually was, I'm planning to try doing it myself this year using one of the software options mentioned here. Your situation sounds manageable for DIY if you're comfortable following step-by-step instructions. One tip: if you do go the preparer route, call around to a few local offices for quotes. I found the local CPA was actually cheaper than the big chains and spent way more time explaining everything to me. Good luck!

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