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I think people are overcomplicating this. If you're keeping the digital media, there's no sale, so there's nothing to report on Form 4797. That form is specifically for sales, exchanges, and involuntary conversions. When I closed my business last year, my accountant told me that assets without significant value don't need to be reported if you're just keeping them. Only worry about Form 4797 for assets you're actually selling or for equipment you've been depreciating.

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Amara Okafor

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What's considered "significant value" though? I have some specialized industry software licenses that cost $3000 originally but would probably sell for maybe $500 now if I could even find a buyer. Do those count?

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Significant" value'isn t really an official tax term - I should have been more clear.'It s more about whether'you ve been depreciating the asset and its current fair market value. For your software licenses, it depends on how you treated them for tax purposes previously. If you expensed them when (purchased rather than capitalizing and)depreciating , then'there s likely no need to report them on Form 4797 when closing your business if'you re keeping them for personal use. If you did depreciate them, then technically the conversion to personal use is treated as "a" sale at fair market value, which would need to bereported.

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I just went through this exact scenario! The key thing is whether you deducted or depreciated the digital assets when you got them. If you expensed them (deducted the full cost when purchased), there's no need to report anything when closing your business. If you depreciated them as capital assets, then you need Form 4797. For my graphic design business, I had purchased some expensive font packages and stock photo collections. Since I had fully expensed them under Section 179 in the year I bought them, my tax preparer said I didn't need to report them at all when closing my business.

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Thanks for explaining - this makes sense! My accountant mentioned Section 179 but I didn't really understand what it meant for closing my business. So basically if I already got the full tax benefit when I bought the assets, there's nothing more to report when keeping them?

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Anna Kerber

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Exactly right! If you took the full deduction upfront through Section 179 expensing, you've already received the complete tax benefit for those assets. When you close your business and keep them for personal use, there's no additional reporting required since you're not selling them and there's no remaining basis to recover or depreciation to recapture. This is different from assets you depreciated over time, where you'd need to report the conversion to personal use. The IRS has already "been made whole" through your original deduction, so to speak.

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Could someone clarify if the verification method is tied to specific credits claimed? It's like the IRS is using different levels of security - online is like the standard door lock, phone is a deadbolt, and in-person is the bank vault. I'm wondering if claiming certain credits (like EITC or CTC) automatically triggers the higher security levels.

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Jay Lincoln

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I did some digging into this because it seemed so random (and frustrating!). Turns out the IRS uses something called the Return Review Program (RRP) which has different risk scoring models. šŸ˜‚ Your "verification path" is assigned based on your risk score and available verification channels in your area. Fun fact: they actually increased in-person verifications by 25% this tax season according to the National Taxpayer Advocate report. So if you got stuck with the in-person option, you're definitely not alone!

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That's interesting about the 25% increase. Do you know if there's any way to request a different verification method if the assigned one is causing hardship? I live 2 hours from the nearest IRS office.

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Zara Ahmed

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@Jessica Suarez Unfortunately, the IRS doesn t'typically allow you to switch verification methods once assigned. However, you might be able to request a hardship accommodation if the distance creates genuine difficulty. I d'recommend calling the Taxpayer Advocate Service at 1-877-777-4778 - they can sometimes help with situations like yours where the assigned method creates undue burden. Also worth checking if any mobile IRS offices will be in your area during tax season.

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Zara Malik

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Don't overlook the fact that the CP3219A means the IRS has officially rejected the explanation you provided for the CP2000. The automatic generation theory might be true, but you need to treat this seriously. I recommend sending a formal protest letter along with your response. Include a timeline of all communications, copies of everything you've sent before, and specifically request abatement of any penalties since you responded timely to the CP2000. Also specify that you're contesting their determination on the basis that you properly reported your crypto transactions and actually incurred losses, not gains.

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Luca Marino

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This happened to me in 2022. My CP3219A was generated about 4 weeks after I responded to the CP2000. I called the IRS and they confirmed they hadn't even looked at my CP2000 response yet when the CP3219A automatically went out. The system is completely broken.

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Freya Ross

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I dealt with this exact situation last year with my 2020 crypto taxes. The key thing to understand is that the IRS computer systems don't talk to each other very well. Your CP3219A was likely auto-generated before your amended return response was processed - this is incredibly common. Here's what worked for me: I immediately called the IRS using the number on the CP3219A notice and asked them to check if they had received my previous response to the CP2000. The agent confirmed they had it but it was sitting in a different department's queue. She was able to put a "hold" code on my account to stop any further automated notices while my case was being reviewed. The most important thing is NOT to ignore the CP3219A deadline. Even though you already responded once, treat this as a separate notice that requires a response within 90 days. Send copies of everything you sent before, but also include a cover letter that references both notice numbers and explains the timeline of your responses. One more tip - make sure you're sending your response to the correct address listed on the CP3219A notice, as it's often different from the CP2000 response address. Good luck!

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Adriana Cohn

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Just curious - has anyone here used an installment sale for foreign property? The buyer of my land in Mexico wants to pay me over 3 years instead of all at once, and I'm not sure how to report this on US taxes.

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Levi Parker

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Yes, you can use installment sale reporting (Form 6252) for foreign property. You'll report the gain proportionally as you receive payments. This can actually be advantageous tax-wise as it spreads your capital gains over multiple years instead of getting hit with a large tax bill all at once.

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This is a complex situation that definitely requires careful attention to US tax obligations. Since you're a US taxpayer, you'll need to report this foreign property sale regardless of where the proceeds are deposited - the location of the bank account doesn't change your tax liability. A few key points to consider beyond what others have mentioned: 1. **Timing of recognition**: The sale will be taxable in the year it closes, not necessarily when you receive all the money (unless you structure it as an installment sale). 2. **State tax implications**: Don't forget to check if your state has any additional reporting requirements for foreign asset sales. 3. **Record keeping**: Start gathering all documentation now - original purchase/inheritance records, any improvements made to the property, foreign taxes paid, and currency exchange rates on relevant dates. 4. **Professional help**: Given the complexity with inheritance basis, potential foreign tax credits, and various reporting forms (8938, FBAR, etc.), I'd strongly echo the advice to work with a tax professional experienced in international transactions. The cost of professional help is usually much less than the penalties for getting these filings wrong. The fact that payment is coming directly to your US account might actually simplify some aspects, but it doesn't reduce your reporting obligations. Make sure you have a clear paper trail of the entire transaction.

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Can Filing Taxes Separately Help Us Qualify for the $7,500 EV Tax Credit?

Hey tax folks, I'm trying to make sure I'm thinking straight about a potential EV purchase and the tax implications. Could use a sanity check! My husband and I are planning to buy an electric vehicle in the next month or so, and it looks like we could get that sweet $7,500 federal tax credit if we meet the income limits ($300k for married filing jointly or $150k for married filing separately). We can use either 2023 or 2024 income to qualify. Our situation: - For 2024, we're definitely over the $300k joint limit due to a one-time bonus I got, so that's not going to work - For 2023, my husband's income was around $160k and mine was about $105k - If we file 2023 taxes separately, I'd be under the $150k limit and could claim the credit So I'm thinking we should file separately for 2023 if the tax increase from filing separately is less than $7,500 (which would make it worthwhile). Other relevant info: We have a 1-year-old son, mortgage interest of about $28k, and we hit the $10k SALT cap. No student loans, minimal childcare expenses. My rough calculations show we'd pay about $3,800 more in taxes by filing separately: - Extra $2,800 due to how our incomes fall in different tax brackets when separated - Loss of about $600 for the childcare credit - No change to child tax credit (I think? Can I claim the full $2,000 for our son if I'm the one under the income limit?) - Plus some smaller state tax differences (we're in Colorado) Am I missing anything major here? Would filing separately to get the EV credit actually save us money overall?

AaliyahAli

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Has anyone looked into whether you can amend previous years' tax returns to file separately instead of jointly? My wife and I already filed our 2023 taxes jointly a few weeks ago, but now we're considering buying an EV and using our 2023 income to qualify.

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LongPeri

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Yes, you can absolutely amend your 2023 return to change from MFJ to MFS using Form 1040-X. However, there's an important deadline to know: you only have until April 15th of this year to make that change. After April 15th, you cannot switch from joint to separate filing status for 2023. If you've already received a refund based on your joint return, you'll need to pay back any difference before filing the amended returns. Given the tight timeline (less than a month left), I'd recommend getting started on the amendment ASAP if you decide to go this route.

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This is a really smart strategy that more people should know about! I work as a tax preparer and I've helped several clients navigate this exact situation this year. One additional consideration I haven't seen mentioned: make sure you understand the "place of assembly" requirements for the EV credit. Not all electric vehicles qualify for the full $7,500 credit - some only qualify for $3,750 or nothing at all, depending on where the battery components and critical minerals are sourced from. The IRS has a searchable database of qualifying vehicles that gets updated regularly. Also, since you mentioned you're in Colorado, you might want to look into state-level EV incentives too. Colorado has its own EV tax credit of up to $5,000 that stacks on top of the federal credit. The income limits and requirements are different from the federal credit, so you could potentially get even more benefit. Your math looks solid overall - paying $3,800 more in taxes to get a $7,500 credit is definitely worth it. Just make sure to run the numbers one more time closer to your purchase date since tax laws can change, and double-check that your specific vehicle model qualifies for the full credit amount.

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