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Something nobody has mentioned - if you already made unqualified distributions from your Roth IRA for the hard money loan and property purchase, you might want to look into converting your remaining Vanguard Roth to a self-directed IRA for FUTURE investments, not to fix the past ones. Self-directed IRAs let you invest in things like real estate, private loans, etc. directly through the IRA. Might help you avoid this situation in the future. Companies like Equity Trust, IRA Financial, and Rocket Dollar specialize in these accounts. Just a thought!
Do self-directed IRAs have different rules about distributions? Like could OP have done these exact investments but avoided the tax hit if they were already in a self-directed account?
Self-directed IRAs follow the same basic distribution rules as any IRA. The difference is what you can invest in while the money remains inside the IRA. If OP had already set up a self-directed IRA before making these investments, they could have made the hard money loan and purchased the rental property directly through the IRA without taking a distribution. The IRA itself would own the property and loan, keeping everything tax-advantaged. All income and gains would flow back into the IRA tax-free (for a Roth). That's the major advantage - making alternative investments while keeping the tax benefits intact.
Has anyone dealt with trying to put real estate back into an IRA after purchasing it personally? I heard there's some kind of prohibited transaction rule about selling your own property to your IRA. Is that true?
Yes, that's absolutely true and a critical point. The IRS has strict rules against "self-dealing" transactions. You cannot sell property you already own personally to your IRA - that's considered a prohibited transaction and can result in the entire IRA being disqualified. The same applies to transactions between your IRA and any "disqualified persons" which includes yourself, your spouse, parents, children, and certain business partners. So unfortunately, once you've purchased property personally, there's no way to transfer it into an IRA without triggering these prohibited transaction rules.
If you filed with TurboTax or another tax software last year, you can usually log in to your account and view last year's return even if you don't have a PDF saved. That would show the original AGI before the unemployment adjustment.
This is what I did! I logged into my H&R Block account from last year and found my original filing. The AGI was completely different from what I thought it was after the adjustment.
Good point about checking all possible tax software accounts! Sometimes people forget which service they used the previous year, so it's worth checking any tax preparation accounts you might have.
The IRS actually has a special procedure for this exact situation. If you can't get your original AGI, enter $0 as your prior year AGI. This is their official workaround for people who can't access their previous return information.
That $0 AGI workaround only works in specific situations - primarily for first-time filers or in years when the IRS specifically allows it. For most people who filed last year, using $0 will cause another rejection. The IRS has been inconsistent with this policy, so it's better to find your actual AGI if possible.
Another option is to contact your local Taxpayer Advocate Service office. They can sometimes help with IP PIN issues when normal channels aren't working. You can find your local office on the TAS website. They've helped me with similar issues in the past.
Thanks for the suggestion. How long does it typically take to get help from the Taxpayer Advocate Service? Do they have the same backlog as regular IRS services?
The Taxpayer Advocate Service does have some backlog, but generally they can get to you within 1-2 weeks which is much faster than waiting for regular IRS correspondence. They prioritize cases with imminent deadlines, so if you explain you're trying to file before the deadline, they often expedite. When you contact them, be very clear that you've attempted all normal channels for obtaining your IP PIN with no success. They can often issue temporary PINs or provide alternative filing guidance.
Just a note that if you're a victim of identity theft and THAT'S why you have an IP PIN, do NOT file without it, even on paper! That will create a huge mess. If you voluntarily opted into the IP PIN program, paper filing might be ok but still not ideal.
Single-member LLC owner here. Just a heads up that being a "disregarded entity" doesn't mean you're disregarded for ALL tax purposes. You're still treated as a separate entity for: 1. Employment taxes (if you have employees) 2. Certain excise taxes 3. State taxes in some states Also, don't forget that being disregarded doesn't eliminate the liability protection of your LLC - that's a legal protection separate from tax treatment. I made that mistake and almost didn't bother with some liability formalities because I thought "disregarded" meant the LLC wasn't important!
Do you know if this applies to sales tax collection too? I'm in TX with a single-member LLC and I'm confused about whether the disregarded status affects my sales tax obligations.
Good question about sales tax. The disregarded entity status generally doesn't affect your sales tax obligations. In Texas, you still need to collect and remit sales tax based on your LLC's activities, regardless of how it's treated for income tax purposes. Your LLC is still recognized as the legal business entity that's making the sales, so the sales tax registration and collection responsibilities belong to the LLC. Texas doesn't really care that you're disregarded for federal income tax purposes - they just care that you collect the proper sales tax on taxable transactions.
Can someone explain in simple English what "disregarded entity" actually means? I keep seeing this term for my single-member LLC but don't really get it. Is it good or bad?? Should I be worried?
It's actually a good thing! "Disregarded entity" sounds negative but it just means the IRS is ignoring your LLC as a separate tax entity. You report business income on your personal return with Schedule C (same as a sole proprietorship). Benefits: One tax return instead of two, possible loss deductions against other income, simpler paperwork. You still get the legal liability protection of an LLC - that doesn't change!
Mateo Hernandez
Just wanted to add that I've been running a lawn care business for 5 years, and I always record all income together regardless of whether it's a tip or standard service fee. On your Schedule C, it all goes on the same line anyway. The bigger issue is making sure you're tracking all your legitimate business expenses to offset that income! Don't forget things like equipment depreciation, vehicle expenses, insurance, and even a portion of your cell phone bill if you use it for business. The IRS wants all your income reported, but they also allow all legitimate business expenses to be deducted.
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Omar Fawaz
β’Thanks for this advice! Do you use any specific software or app to track your business expenses throughout the year? And how detailed do your records need to be for things like gas or small tool purchases?
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Mateo Hernandez
β’I use a combination of QuickBooks Self-Employed and a separate business credit card that I use exclusively for business purchases. This makes it much easier to track everything come tax time. For expenses like gas and small tools, I keep all receipts and take photos of them with my phone immediately (receipts fade over time). The IRS wants to see that there's documentation for your expenses, so having receipts or electronic records is important. For vehicle expenses, you can either track all actual costs (gas, maintenance, insurance, etc.) or use the standard mileage rate - I find the standard mileage rate easier, but you need to keep a mileage log with dates, destinations, and business purpose.
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CosmicCruiser
Has anyone here dealt with Venmo's reporting thresholds? I heard they changed the rules again for 2025. I'm worried because I do about $30k a year through my Venmo business account for my landscaping service and don't want any surprises.
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Aisha Khan
β’For 2025, payment apps like Venmo are required to issue a 1099-K if you receive more than $5,000 in business transactions for the year. This is down from the $20,000 threshold they had temporarily extended. So at $30k, you'll definitely get a 1099-K that will be reported to the IRS.
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