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Thanks for starting this discussion! I'm in a similar boat with about $28k in back taxes from my consulting business. Reading through everyone's experiences has been really eye-opening. I've been leaning toward trying the DIY approach first using some of the tools mentioned here. The idea of paying $4-5k upfront to a company like TaxRise when I might be able to handle it myself (or with a local CPA for much less) makes a lot of sense. One question for those who've gone the self-representation route: how did you handle the intimidation factor of dealing directly with the IRS? I keep imagining worst-case scenarios where I say the wrong thing and make my situation worse. Any tips for building confidence before making that first call? Also, has anyone used the Taxpayer Advocate Service? I've seen it mentioned on the IRS website but not sure if it's relevant for situations like ours.
Great question about the intimidation factor! I was terrified of my first IRS call too, but here's what helped me: First, remember that IRS agents are just people doing their jobs - they actually want to help you resolve your situation because it closes cases for them. Second, prepare beforehand by writing down your key points and having all relevant documents ready. Third, if you get an agent who seems unhelpful, politely end the call and try again later - you'll often get someone different. Regarding the Taxpayer Advocate Service, they're definitely worth knowing about but typically only get involved when you've already tried normal IRS channels and hit roadblocks, or when you're facing significant hardship. For straightforward installment agreements or offers in compromise, you probably won't need them initially, but it's good to know they exist as a backup if things get complicated. One tip that really helped my confidence: start by calling the IRS just to request transcripts or basic account information before diving into resolution discussions. It's low-stakes practice that gets you comfortable with their phone system and procedures!
I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here! As someone who's worked in tax resolution for over a decade, I want to add a few thoughts that might help you make the best decision for your specific situation. The $36k debt with multiple unfiled returns definitely makes your case more complex than a simple installment agreement. Companies like TaxRise can be worth it IF you truly don't have the time or capacity to handle it yourself, but you're right to be cautious about the costs. Here's what I'd recommend: Start by getting your tax transcripts from the IRS (you can order these online) and filing those missing returns yourself or with a local preparer. Once you have a complete picture of what you actually owe (penalties and interest can be negotiated), then decide if you want professional help. The Fresh Start program mentioned earlier is real and has helped millions of taxpayers. For your debt level, you'd likely qualify for a streamlined installment agreement without extensive financial disclosure if you can pay it off within 72 months. One red flag to watch for with ANY tax relief company: if they guarantee specific outcomes or tell you to stop communicating with the IRS while they "handle everything," run. Legitimate professionals will always be upfront about what they can and cannot promise. Your health crisis and business complications might actually work in your favor for penalty abatement - the IRS has reasonable cause provisions that many taxpayers don't know about.
This is incredibly helpful advice! I hadn't considered that my health crisis might actually help with penalty abatement - that's definitely something I want to look into. The idea of starting with tax transcripts and getting the complete picture before deciding on professional help makes a lot of sense. One follow-up question: when you mention "reasonable cause provisions," what kind of documentation would typically be needed to support a health crisis claim? I have medical records from that period, but I'm not sure what the IRS would specifically want to see to justify the unfiled returns. Also, for the streamlined installment agreement you mentioned - is there a significant difference in terms or approval likelihood compared to a regular installment agreement that might make it worth pursuing?
Before you even consider an OIC, have you looked into whether you qualify for Currently Not Collectible status? If your financial situation is really tight, you might qualify for CNC which would pause your payments until your finances improve. It doesn't make the debt go away, but it gives you breathing room without the lengthy OIC process.
I went through the OIC process about 6 months ago with a similar debt amount ($12k from freelance work). Here's what I learned: First, the IRS really does look at your entire financial picture - not just the debt amount. They calculate your "reasonable collection potential" which includes your assets, income, and necessary living expenses. If you can demonstrate genuine financial hardship or that paying the full amount would prevent you from meeting basic living expenses, you have a shot regardless of the debt size. My biggest mistake initially was trying to do it myself. The forms are incredibly detailed and one small error can get your application rejected. I ended up working with a tax professional who helped me properly document my case. We showed that my current income barely covered my necessary expenses and that the monthly payment plan was actually causing me to go deeper into debt with credit cards just to cover basics. The process took about 8 months total, but I ended up settling for about 35% of what I owed. The key was proving that this was truly the most the IRS could reasonably expect to collect from me given my circumstances. One warning though - during the application process, you can't miss any payments if you're currently on a payment plan. They'll reject your OIC if you become delinquent while it's being reviewed.
Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful. I'm curious - when you mention working with a tax professional, did you go with a CPA, enrolled agent, or tax attorney? I'm trying to figure out what type of professional would be best for an OIC case like mine. Also, did the IRS require any specific documentation to prove your financial hardship beyond the standard forms?
Went through this last year and let me tell you, it's like the IRS version of dating - just when you think they're ghosting you, they text back! š But seriously, watch out for what happened to me: status changed to processing, I got excited, then BAM - got hit with the dreaded 60-day review letter two weeks later. Apparently my employer submitted my W-2 with a typo in my SSN. The moral of this tragic tax tale: even when it goes back to processing, keep checking your transcript for codes 570/971 which might indicate additional reviews. Not trying to be a downer, just saying don't celebrate until you see that 846 refund issued code!
This happened to me too! I thought I was in the clear after verification, then got slapped with a 120-day review. Called in and found out someone had filed a fraudulent return using my SSN earlier in the season. Took forever to resolve.
I'm going through this exact situation right now! Filed early February, got stuck in ID verification hell for about 10 days, and just switched back to processing yesterday. Reading through everyone's experiences here is actually really reassuring - sounds like this status change is generally a good sign that things are moving forward. For those asking about transcripts showing N/A - mine is still showing that too, but from what I'm reading here it sounds like that's normal during this transition period. I'm going to try to be patient and check again in a few days. @Melina Haruko - thanks for starting this thread! The PCS timing stress is real. We're military too and have had our fair share of verification delays over the years. Fingers crossed we both get some movement soon!
Welcome to the waiting game club! I'm a newcomer here but going through the exact same thing. Filed in late January, got the ID verification page for about 12 days, and it just switched to processing status yesterday morning. Reading through all these experiences is honestly the most helpful information I've found anywhere - way better than the vague IRS website updates. It's reassuring to see that most people are getting their DDDs within 1-3 weeks after this status change. The military PCS timing adds extra stress for sure, but it sounds like we're on the right track now. Keeping my fingers crossed for all of us waiting!
Has anyone used their home gym for both in-person training clients AND filming content for online coaching? I'm wondering if I can write off the entire room as a home office if it's used for both purposes?
I do exactly this! I use my home gym for 1-on-1 clients and filming workout content. My tax guy said I can deduct the square footage of that room as a home office since it's used exclusively for business. But you CANNOT use that space for personal workouts at all or it disqualifies the entire deduction. I literally have a separate area in my basement with a few dumbbells for my own workouts to keep everything clean for tax purposes.
Great question! I'm in a similar situation - planning to launch my personal training business early next year but want to get my equipment sorted now. From what I've researched, the key is showing "active preparation" for your business launch. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given - consider getting your business license and EIN now if you haven't already. Even if you're not actively earning revenue yet, having these official documents helps establish your business intent timeline for the IRS. Also, I'd recommend creating a detailed business plan that includes your equipment needs and how each piece will be used for client training. This documentation becomes really valuable if you ever get questioned about the business purpose of your purchases. Keep in mind that if you're buying higher-value equipment (like a $3,000 home gym setup), you might want to spread some purchases into 2025 to maximize your deduction benefits across tax years. Good luck with the launch!
ThunderBolt7
Has your brother filled out a FAFSA for college? If your mom can't claim him as a dependent due to his investment income, he should file the FAFSA as an independent student, which might actually help him qualify for more financial aid since only his income and assets would be considered, not your mom's. This could potentially offset some of the tax disadvantages of not being able to be claimed as a dependent. Just something to consider for the bigger financial picture.
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Jamal Edwards
ā¢This is terrible advice. If he's 24, he's automatically considered independent for FAFSA purposes regardless of whether he's claimed as a dependent on taxes. The dependency rules for taxes and financial aid are completely different systems.
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Ava Garcia
Based on everything discussed here, it sounds like your mom unfortunately cannot claim your brother as a dependent due to his $19k in investment income exceeding the $4,850 gross income limit for 2024. Since he's over 24, he can't qualify as a "qualifying child" where investment income wouldn't matter. However, this might actually work out better financially for your family overall. Your brother should definitely file his own return and will be able to claim his full standard deduction. More importantly, he'll likely qualify for education tax credits like the American Opportunity Credit (up to $2,500) or the Lifetime Learning Credit, which could provide significant tax benefits that your mom wouldn't be able to claim for him anyway. For your mom's situation, make sure she explores other tax benefits available to retirees. Since she retired mid-year, she should check if she qualifies for the Retirement Savings Contribution Credit on any 401k contributions she made before retiring. Also, if she hasn't already, she should review her withholding on any pension or Social Security benefits to avoid underpayment issues next year. Sometimes what looks like a tax disadvantage initially can actually work out better when you look at the whole picture!
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Mason Davis
ā¢This is really helpful - I hadn't thought about the education credits angle! Since my brother will be filing his own return anyway, those credits could definitely help offset the loss of being claimed as a dependent. Do you happen to know if there are any income limits on the American Opportunity Credit? With his $19k in investment income, I want to make sure he'd still qualify. Also, are there any other tax benefits for students that we should look into for his situation? Thanks for pointing out the bigger picture perspective - sometimes these tax situations are more complex than they initially seem!
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