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Lucas Parker

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Another option is to contact the company you worked for in 2018. Their HR/payroll department should have records of your W-2 from that year. Even if they don't have the full tax return, having your W-2 would show your state withholding amounts, which seems to be what you need to disprove the state's claim. Most companies keep payroll records for 7-10 years (even though they're only required to keep them for 4), so there's a good chance they still have this information. Reaching out to them might be faster than waiting for the IRS.

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Mikayla Brown

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I actually tried this already but unfortunately the company I worked for in 2018 was bought out in 2020 and the new owner purged a lot of the old records. They told me they only kept the "legally required minimum" which apparently didn't include my 2018 W-2. Really frustrating since this would've been the easiest solution!

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Lucas Parker

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That's definitely frustrating! In that case, your next best option is to request a Wage and Income Transcript from the IRS, which will show all reported W-2 information. This is different from the Tax Return Transcript you tried to access online. You can request this specific transcript using Form 4506-T (check box 8 on the form). Even though the online system only goes back to 2020, the IRS can provide Wage and Income Transcripts going back 10 years when requested via mail or fax using this form. This would show exactly what was reported to them on your W-2, including state withholding information.

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Donna Cline

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Just FYI - I deal with state tax audits for a living, and you should know that the burden of proof is actually on THEM to show you didn't pay taxes, not on you to prove you did. Ask them what evidence they have that you paid $0 in state taxes that year. Also, double-check the statute of limitations in your state. Many states have a 3-year limitation on tax assessments unless they suspect fraud. A 2018 audit in 2025 is outside that window unless they're alleging fraud or non-filing.

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This is not entirely accurate. While the burden of proof does shift in certain circumstances, the general rule is that taxpayers bear the burden of proving their income, deductions, and credits. If the state is claiming you had income but paid no tax, they usually have some evidence of the income (like W-2 reporting) but are claiming you never filed or paid. The statute of limitations point is valid though - worth checking your state's specific rules.

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Amara Nnamani

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One important thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you check if your stock is ACTUALLY worthless before claiming it as such. I had Washington Mutual stock years ago that I thought was completely worthless after their collapse, but there was actually a small liquidation trust that was paying out pennies on the dollar to shareholders. If there's ANY value whatsoever or possibility of future recovery through bankruptcy proceedings, the IRS might challenge a complete worthless security deduction. You might need to actually sell the shares for whatever minimal value they have rather than claiming them as completely worthless. Your broker should be able to tell you if there's any residual value or ongoing bankruptcy proceedings related to your bank's stock.

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This is excellent advice. I worked in banking for years, and many people don't realize that even after a bank fails, there are often residual assets that get distributed over time. How would someone check if there are any bankruptcy distributions still happening for a failed bank from a few years ago?

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Amara Nnamani

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You can check a few different ways. First, contact your broker and ask if there are any bankruptcy proceedings or liquidation trusts associated with the stock. They usually have this information. Second, you can look up the bank's name plus "bankruptcy claims" or "shareholder recovery" online. Most failed banks will have information about any ongoing asset distribution processes. For larger bank failures, there are often dedicated websites set up by the administrators handling the liquidation. If the failure was FDIC-managed, you can also check the FDIC website as they typically publish information about the resolution status of banks they've taken over. Sometimes there are multiple phases of distribution that happen over several years.

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NebulaNinja

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Has anyone used TurboTax to claim a large worthless stock loss like this? I'm wondering if the regular version handles this or if I need to upgrade to their premium version. Last time I tried to enter something complicated like this, it kept giving me errors.

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I tried using TurboTax for a similar situation and it was a nightmare. The program kept asking me for information I didn't have and wouldn't let me proceed. I ended up having to use the desktop version of H&R Block software which handled it much better. It had specific fields for worthless securities and inheritance basis.

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I'm an accountant and I see this question a lot from gig workers this year. Here's what's happening: there was supposed to be a new $600 threshold for 1099-K forms starting in 2023, but the IRS delayed implementation at the last minute, keeping the threshold at $20,000. This created a lot of confusion because some companies had already updated their systems for the new threshold, then had to switch back. The different approaches by companies like Uber vs. DoorDash come down to how they interpret their role - payment facilitator vs. direct payer. Regardless, you ARE required to report all income even without a 1099. Your best approach is to: 1) Download annual summaries from your Uber driver account 2) Keep track of all your deductible expenses (mileage is the big one!) 3) Report everything accurately on Schedule C

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Klaus Schmidt

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Is there any way to get the IRS to force Uber to send me a 1099-NEC instead of treating themselves as a payment processor? It seems like they're just trying to make things harder for drivers and save money on paperwork.

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Not really. Companies have some flexibility in how they classify themselves within IRS guidelines. If Uber has determined they qualify as a payment processor under current regulations, the IRS typically wouldn't intervene unless there was clear evidence they don't meet the criteria. This classification issue has been debated for years in the gig economy. The upcoming 1099-K threshold reduction (now delayed to 2024) was partly intended to address this gap, ensuring more gig workers receive documentation regardless of how the platform classifies itself. For now, your best option is to maintain your own detailed records rather than trying to force Uber to change their classification.

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Aisha Patel

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I'm in the same boat with Lyft too! I just use the annual summary from the driver portal for my taxes. My tax guy said it's totally fine to use that instead of an official 1099. Just make sure you're tracking your mileage with an app throughout the year cause that's where the big deductions are!

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LilMama23

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TurboTax has an import feature that can pull info directly from Uber and Lyft even without a 1099. Made it really easy for me last year. Way better than manually entering everything!

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Everyone is focusing on whether the return will be processed, but just to be safe, I would recommend filing Form 8822 (Change of Address) with the correct spelling. This creates a paper trail showing you recognized and corrected the error, which could be helpful if questions come up later. In my experience working with clients, minor spelling errors rarely cause problems with processing, but documenting the correction is always good practice for your records and possible future reference.

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Chloe Green

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Is Form 8822 really the right form for this? I thought that was just for address changes, not for correcting a name spelling error. Wouldn't I need to file an amendment (1040-X) instead?

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You're absolutely right that Form 8822 is specifically for address changes, not name corrections. I apologize for the confusion. For a name correction, you generally wouldn't need to file an amendment (1040-X) just for a spelling error if the return was accepted and the first four characters match. If you want to create documentation of the correction, you could send a signed statement to the IRS explaining the error, including your taxpayer information, but most tax professionals would advise that this specific error is minor enough not to warrant additional paperwork.

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Michael Adams

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Just want to add that I had the exact same issue two years ago with my son's last name (typed "Johnsn" instead of "Johnson"). My return was accepted and processed without any issues or delays. As long as the SSN is correct and the first four letters match, you should be fine. The IRS systems are designed to handle minor typos like this. I never had to file an amendment or anything.

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Natalie Wang

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What tax software did you use when this happened? I've noticed some programs have better error checking than others before submission.

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Nina Chan

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One thing that helped me understand this better was thinking of the tax brackets as buckets that fill up. Each bucket has a different tax rate: For 2023 Married Filing Jointly: $0-$22,000: 10% bucket $22,001-$89,450: 12% bucket $89,451-$190,750: 22% bucket And so on... If you and your spouse each make $60,000, individually you'd only fill up the 10% and part of the 12% bucket. But combined ($120,000), you fill the 10% bucket, the entire 12% bucket, and spill into the 22% bucket. The problem is that when your employer withholds based on "married filing jointly" without knowing about your spouse's income, they think you only need to fill those first two buckets. That's why you're underwithholding.

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Tony Brooks

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This bucket analogy is super helpful - I've never thought about it that way before! So if we each make about $65k, we're definitely spilling into that 22% bucket when combined. Would checking that box in Step 2(c) on our W4s like someone mentioned above fix this issue completely, or would we still need to do some additional withholding?

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Nina Chan

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If you both make around $65k, checking the box in Step 2(c) on both your W4s should fix most of the issue. That essentially tells your employers to withhold at the higher single rate, which accounts for having two similar incomes. For even more accuracy, I'd recommend running your numbers through the IRS Withholding Estimator online. Have your latest paystubs handy. The calculator will tell you exactly what to put on line 4(c) if any additional withholding is needed beyond checking that box. Some people find they need a little extra withholding even with the box checked, especially if you have other income sources or particular deductions.

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Ruby Knight

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Just want to add that you don't want to select "married filing separately" on your W4 like you suggested. That's actually a specific tax filing status with its own tax brackets, and it's usually less favorable than married filing jointly. Many tax credits and deductions aren't available when you file separately. What you want is to either: 1. Check the box in Step 2(c) on the W4 form 2. Use the "Multiple Jobs Worksheet" on page 3 of the W4 3. Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online and follow its recommendations Also, it's not as simple as "gross salary minus 22%" because the US has a progressive tax system. You pay 10% on the first chunk of income, then 12% on the next chunk, then 22% on income above that threshold.

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This might be a dumb question, but does it matter if I'm paid biweekly and my husband is paid monthly? Do we both still just check that box on our W4s?

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