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Don't overlook the potential of utilizing a Backdoor Roth if increasing your W2 wages pushes you beyond the Roth IRA income limits. Anyone can contribute to a Traditional IRA regardless of income, and then convert it to a Roth IRA.
But if you already have traditional IRA money, doesn't that create pro-rata rule issues with the backdoor? I thought the conversion gets taxed proportionally?
You're absolutely right about the pro-rata rule! If you have any existing traditional IRA balances (including rollover IRAs from old 401ks), the backdoor Roth conversion gets more complicated. The IRS treats all your traditional IRAs as one big pot, so you can't just convert the non-deductible contribution - you have to convert proportionally from all accounts. One workaround for S-corp owners is to roll existing traditional IRA balances INTO your current 401k plan if it accepts rollovers. This clears out your traditional IRA balance so you can do clean backdoor Roth conversions going forward. Not all 401k plans allow this, but many do.
As a fellow S-corp owner who went through this exact optimization process, I'd strongly recommend exploring the defined benefit/cash balance plan route that others have mentioned. You're already doing great with the core strategies, but those additional plans can really move the needle. One thing I learned the hard way: don't just focus on maximizing contributions without considering your long-term cash flow needs. When I first set up my defined benefit plan, I got excited about the huge tax deferrals but didn't fully account for the commitment aspect. These plans require consistent funding for several years, and the IRS gets unhappy if you try to terminate early without good reason. Also, since you mentioned FIRE goals, consider the timing of when you'll need access to these funds. The defined benefit money is generally locked up until 59.5 (with some exceptions), so make sure you have enough in taxable accounts to bridge any early retirement gap. Have you run projections on what your tax situation will look like in retirement? Sometimes it makes sense to balance pre-tax deferrals with some Roth strategies, especially if you expect to be in a similar or higher tax bracket later.
Has anyone here actually e-filed state returns separately? Which tax software actually lets you do this easily? I tried it with H&R Block last year and it was a nightmare - the software kept insisting I file federal and both states together.
TurboTax definitely lets you do this. I filed my California return separately from my federal last year. After you prepare your federal return, just don't submit it. Then prepare your state return and there's an option to file just the state return. Then later when you're ready to file your federal and other state, you go back into the same account/return and pick up where you left off.
I went through this exact situation two years ago when I moved from Wisconsin to Florida mid-year. Here's what I learned from my CPA: You absolutely CAN file your state returns at different times, but there's a critical detail everyone seems to be missing - you need to be very careful about your part-year resident status on each return. For Colorado, you'll file as a part-year resident and only pay Colorado tax on the income you earned while living there (January through July). For Arizona, you'll also file as a part-year resident for the income earned there (August through December). The key is making sure your total income across both state returns matches what you'll report on your federal return. If you're missing Arizona documents, you could estimate based on your pay stubs, but honestly it's safer to wait until you have everything. One more thing - check if Colorado has any special rules about when part-year residents must file. Some states require you to file by the federal deadline regardless of when you moved.
Has anyone tried calling the Taxpayer Advocate Service about these old health insurance penalties? I've heard they sometimes help with IRS issues when you're facing hardship or can't get resolution through normal channels.
I tried the Taxpayer Advocate Service for a different issue last year. They won't take your case unless you've already tried resolving it through normal IRS channels AND you're facing some kind of immediate financial hardship (like wage garnishment or bank levy). For a simple notice like CP71H, they'd probably just tell you to call the regular IRS number.
I went through something very similar with a 2017 health insurance penalty notice last year. The key thing to understand is that the IRS is definitely still collecting on these, despite what people said back then about being able to ignore them. When I got my CP71H notice, I was also confused about why my refunds hadn't been offset. I learned that the IRS has specific rules about which debts they can offset refunds for, and the health insurance penalty has some restrictions around that process. My advice would be to act quickly on this. The interest keeps accruing daily, and while $711 might not seem like a huge amount, it can grow pretty fast. I ended up calling the IRS (eventually got through after multiple attempts) and they were actually quite reasonable about setting up a payment plan. The agent explained that they're working through a backlog of these penalties systematically, which is why some people are just now getting notices for 2017 tax years. Don't assume this will just go away - the 10-year collection period gives them plenty of time to pursue it. If you can afford to pay it in full, that's probably your best bet. If not, the installment agreement option is definitely worth exploring.
Does the person receiving the house have to worry about property tax reassessment? I know when houses change hands the county often reassesses and raises the property taxes. Would they base it on the $100 sale price or the actual value?
Property taxes are generally assessed based on the actual value of the property, not the sale price. While sales can trigger reassessments, the county assessor isn't going to value a house at $100 just because that's what you "sold" it for. They use comparable properties and other methods to determine fair market value.
Just wanted to add another important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - the impact on your friend's mortgage eligibility if they ever want to refinance or take out a home equity loan later. When lenders do their due diligence, they'll see that your friend "purchased" a $500k house for $100, which creates a massive red flag in their underwriting process. Even if you both properly documented this as a gift transaction with the IRS, mortgage lenders will be extremely suspicious of this transaction history. Your friend might have trouble getting competitive rates or could be denied altogether because lenders will assume there are undisclosed liens, side agreements, or other complications. They may require extensive additional documentation to prove the transaction was legitimate, which could be costly and time-consuming. If you're serious about helping friends buy houses, you might want to consider alternative approaches like providing them with a large gift for the down payment (properly documented) so they can purchase at fair market value, or exploring legitimate seller financing arrangements that don't raise as many red flags with both the IRS and future lenders.
Yuki Ito
Just wondering - should you also attach an explanation or statement to your tax return when you have this situation? I have both 1042-S and 1099-DIV forms and am worried the IRS might think I'm not reporting all my income if they see the 1042-S but don't immediately connect it to the dividend income I'm reporting.
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Anastasia Fedorov
ā¢When e-filing, there's usually no way to attach an explanatory statement for this specific situation. The key is to report all income and withholding correctly on the appropriate lines of your tax return. If you're particularly concerned, you can create a written statement explaining how you've reported the 1042-S income and withholding, and keep it with your tax records. This would be helpful if you're ever audited, but it's not required to be submitted with your return.
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Freya Andersen
I went through this exact same situation last year and want to share what I learned after consulting with a tax professional. The key issue is that Morgan Stanley likely had you classified as a non-resident alien at some point during the year, which triggered the 1042-S filing even though you were actually a full-year resident. Here's the step-by-step approach that worked for me: 1. **Compare the forms carefully** - Look at the dates and amounts on both the 1042-S and 1099-DIV. Often they're reporting different dividend payments or different portions of the same payments. 2. **Report dividend income once** - Add up all your dividend income from both forms (avoiding double-counting) and report the total on Schedule B as regular dividend income. 3. **Claim all withholding** - The $315 federal tax withheld on your 1042-S should be claimed as additional federal tax payments, separate from any withholding shown on your 1099-DIV. 4. **Contact Morgan Stanley** - Call them to update your residency status in their system so you don't keep getting 1042-S forms unnecessarily in future years. The IRS matching system will see both forms were issued to you, but as long as you report all income and claim all withholding correctly, there shouldn't be any issues. I had no problems with my return being processed, and no follow-up questions from the IRS. Good luck with your filing!
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Fiona Sand
ā¢This is incredibly helpful, thank you for breaking it down so clearly! I'm dealing with this exact situation right now and was getting overwhelmed by all the conflicting advice online. Your step-by-step approach makes so much sense - especially the part about comparing dates and amounts to avoid double-counting. I had the same concern about the IRS matching system seeing both forms, so it's reassuring to hear that you had no issues when everything was reported correctly. I'm definitely going to call Morgan Stanley too - I didn't even think about updating my residency status with them to prevent this from happening again next year. One quick follow-up question: when you reported the dividend income on Schedule B, did you need to specify anywhere that some of it came from a 1042-S, or did you just lump it all together as regular dividend income?
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Amara Adeyemi
ā¢@Fiona Sand Great question! When I reported on Schedule B, I just lumped everything together as regular dividend income - no need to specify that some came from a 1042-S. The IRS treats it all as dividend income once you re'reporting as a resident. The only place where the source matters is when claiming the withholding. I made sure to claim the $315 from the 1042-S separately from any other withholding, but the actual dividend amounts just go together on Schedule B. One tip: I kept a simple note in my tax files showing how I calculated the total like ($450 "from 1099-DIV + $600 from 1042-S = $1,050 total dividends reported just") in case I ever needed to explain my math, but that s'just for my own records.
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