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I'm an accountant who works with several family farms, and I'd recommend looking into Section 1361(c)(2)(A)(ii) Qualified Subchapter S Trust (QSST) if the farm is an S Corporation. It might allow you to shift some income without disrupting the family operations. Also, check if the farm is taking all agricultural deductions like Section 179 for equipment. Sometimes family farms miss these opportunities because they've "always done it this way" for generations.
Thanks so much for this info! The farm is indeed an S Corp. Would setting up a QSST require getting everyone in the family on board? And how exactly would it help with our tax situation? Sorry if these are basic questions, this farm tax situation is completely outside my experience.
Setting up a QSST would only involve your wife's shares, not the entire family structure. It creates a trust that holds her shares, which can sometimes provide more flexibility in how and when income is recognized. The main benefit would be potential income timing advantages and possibly some estate planning benefits as well. However, it does require proper setup by someone familiar with both trust law and agricultural tax issues. It's not a DIY solution, but depending on the value of the shares and ongoing income, it might be worth the setup costs.
Have you guys checked if the farm is taking advantage of income averaging? IRS Schedule J lets farmers average their income over 3 years which can really help with tax situations, especially in good years. It's a huge benefit that a lot of family farms don't even know about.
Former Liberty Tax preparer here. At our office, we would definitely fix this mistake at no cost, but refunds were on a case-by-case basis. Typically, we'd offer 15-20% refund for inconvenience on something like a name error that's relatively simple to fix but still requires an amendment. $675 sounds about right for a business return depending on complexity and your location. If you had multiple schedules, rental properties, or depreciation schedules, that's actually reasonable. Make sure the amendment is filed via certified mail so you have proof of submission. Also get written confirmation that they're waiving any amendment fees. If they give you any trouble, ask to speak with the franchise owner directly - they have more authority than the preparers or managers.
Is it normal for tax preparers to charge so much? I've been filing my S-Corp taxes with TurboTax for $170. Am I missing something by not using a professional?
It depends entirely on your business complexity and comfort level with tax regulations. TurboTax works well for straightforward businesses with minimal special situations. Where professionals provide value is with tax planning, specialized deductions, complex allocations, and having someone to represent you if questions arise. If you're confident in your understanding of business tax rules and your return is relatively straightforward, software might be sufficient. But many business owners find professionals help identify deductions and planning opportunities that more than offset their fees. Also, having representation during notices or audits can be invaluable for complex business structures.
I had almost the exact same issue with HR Block last year. They transposed digits in my EIN and it was a nightmare to fix. Here's what worked for me: 1) Document EVERYTHING including all communications 2) Be polite but FIRM - ask to speak with the office manager immediately 3) Request they cover all costs for the amendment AND provide a 50% refund for the inconvenience 4) If they refuse, mention that you'll be filing complaints with: - Better Business Bureau - Your state's accountancy board - Corporate headquarters customer service - Social media reviews They initially offered just a free amendment but bumped it to a 30% refund when I mentioned these steps. The key is staying calm but being absolutely clear that their error is costing you time and potential penalties.
Do you think its worth getting a lawyer involved? My cousin is an attorney and said I could have him send a letter for free.
In my experience, involving a lawyer should be your absolute last resort, not your first step. A strongly worded attorney letter might get immediate attention, but it also immediately creates an adversarial relationship that can make an amicable resolution harder. I'd recommend following the escalation chain first - preparer ā office manager ā corporate customer service. Most tax preparation chains have established protocols for handling errors and want to preserve their reputation. Save the legal approach for if they flatly refuse to address the issue after you've exhausted normal channels. Even a free lawyer letter from your cousin changes the dynamic significantly.
One important thing to check - make sure your certificate program is at an eligible educational institution. You can use the Federal School Code Search on the FAFSA website to check: https://fafsa.ed.gov/spa/fsc/ I made the mistake of claiming expenses for a program that wasn't at an eligible institution and got a letter from the IRS later. Not all certificate programs qualify, especially if they're not at accredited schools. Most community colleges are fine, just double check.
Does anyone know if the education expense has to be related to your current job? I work in retail but I'm taking IT certification courses to change careers. Can I still claim those?
For the Lifetime Learning Credit, the education doesn't have to be related to your current job. It can be for career change or just to improve your skills in general. So your IT certification courses would qualify as long as they're at an eligible educational institution. This is different from the tuition and fees deduction (which is no longer available) or business expense deductions which did require the education to be related to your current work.
I used to work at a college financial aid office and we got this question a lot. Schools are only required to issue 1098-Ts if the student is enrolled in a degree-seeking program. Certificate programs often don't qualify, which is why your community college didn't issue one. Buuut that doesn't mean you can't claim the expenses! For FreeTaxUSA specifically, go to: 1. Credits menu 2. Education section 3. Select "Yes" when asked if you had education expenses 4. When it asks about Form 1098-T, select the option that says your school didn't provide one 5. Enter the school information manually 6. Enter your qualified expenses Then it'll calculate if you qualify for the Lifetime Learning Credit.
Thank you SO MUCH for the step-by-step instructions! I was clicking around FreeTaxUSA for ages trying to find where to enter this. Just followed your directions and found it right away. It was exactly where you said and let me enter my pharmacy tech program expenses without a 1098-T. You're a lifesaver!
Can someone clarify if we're talking about the same threshold for state estimated taxes too? I'm in California and heard they have different rules about when you need to pay quarterly.
States often have different thresholds. In California specifically, you need to make estimated tax payments if you expect to owe at least $500 in state tax after subtracting withholding and credits. So it's a lower threshold than the federal $1,000 requirement. FTB website has all the details.
Sometimes I've found that withholding a bit extra from my W-2 job is easier than dealing with quarterly payments for small self-employment income. You can file a new W-4 with your employer and just add an additional amount to be withheld from each paycheck. Way less paperwork than tracking and submitting quarterlies.
This is genius! How much extra should you withhold though? Is there some formula to figure out how much self-employment tax you'll owe?
For a rough estimate, take your expected annual self-employment income and multiply by about 15% for self-employment tax, then add whatever your marginal income tax rate is (probably 10-12% if your income is relatively low). So maybe 25-30% total. If you're making $800 a year in self-employment income, that's roughly $200-240 in additional tax. You could just have an extra $20 withheld from your paycheck each month to cover it. Much easier than filing quarterly payments!
Jamal Brown
I went through this exact situation last year with my 17-year-old cousin. Here's what I learned: The IRS publication you want to look at is Publication 501. It explains that cousins can only be "qualifying relatives" not "qualifying children" - which means you get the dependent deduction (which helps!) but not the EIC. One thing nobody mentioned yet - check if you qualify for "Head of Household" filing status since you're supporting your cousin. That lower tax rate might help offset some of the loss from not getting EIC. You'd need to provide more than half the cost of keeping up the home, and your cousin would need to have lived with you the entire year (which you said they did). Don't beat yourself up about the EIC thing - the rules are what they are. At least you still get some tax benefit for supporting her!
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Mei Zhang
ā¢Can you explain more about the Head of Household thing? I thought you needed to have a qualifying child for that, and if a cousin doesn't count as a qualifying child for EIC, would they count for Head of Household?
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Jamal Brown
ā¢Good question! The Head of Household rules are slightly different. You can qualify with a "qualifying person" who lived with you more than half the year. A qualifying person can be your qualifying child OR any relative (including a cousin) that you can claim as a dependent. So even though your cousin doesn't meet the relationship test to be a qualifying child for EIC purposes, they CAN be your qualifying person for Head of Household purposes if you provided more than half their support, they lived with you the whole year, and you paid more than half the cost of keeping up the home. This filing status can save you quite a bit compared to filing as Single.
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Liam McConnell
Has anyone used TurboTax for claiming a non-traditional dependent like this? I'm trying to claim my step-brother's son who lives with me but the software seems confused every time I try to enter the relationship.
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Amara Oluwaseyi
ā¢I used H&R Block software last year for a similar situation with my cousin. When I selected "Other Relative" it walked me through additional questions to make sure I understood which credits I qualified for. The software was pretty clear that I wouldn't get EIC but would still get the dependent deduction. Maybe try H&R Block instead?
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