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Dylan Cooper

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Not sure if this helps, but I went through something similar with a sign-on bonus repayment. My W-2c also only had adjustments to boxes 3, 4, 5, and 6. I called my former employer and learned that for federal income tax purposes, they were treating my repayment as a miscellaneous itemized deduction that I would need to claim on my own, rather than adjusting Box 1. The reasoning they gave was that since the repayment happened in a different tax year from when I received the payment, they couldn't simply adjust Box 1. Instead, I had to handle it as either an itemized deduction or through the claim of right provision depending on the amount.

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That's interesting and might explain what's happening in my case too. Did your former employer provide any documentation explaining this approach? And which method did you end up using - the itemized deduction or claim of right?

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Dylan Cooper

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They didn't provide specific documentation beyond a brief explanation in the email that accompanied my W-2c. It was frustrating because they basically put the burden on me to figure out the tax implications. I ended up using the claim of right provision (Section 1341) since my repayment was over $3,000. This gave me a better result than the itemized deduction would have because I was in a higher tax bracket when I received the money than when I repaid it. I had to fill out some additional worksheets that weren't part of the standard tax software process, but it was worth it - I got back about $1,200 more than if I had just taken the itemized deduction.

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Pro tip: Always check both methods (itemized deduction vs claim of right) before filing. The "Claim of Right" method usually works better for larger repayments because it essentially gives you credit at your original tax rate rather than your current one. I'm a tax preparer and see this relocation/bonus repayment issue all the time. Most tax software doesn't handle it well automatically. In FreeTaxUSA, you'll need to manually work through the Section 1341 calculations. Look in the Deductions section for "Repayment of Income" or similar wording.

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StarSailor

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Does the Tax Cut and Jobs Act affect this? I thought miscellaneous itemized deductions were eliminated until 2025?

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Omar Zaki

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One thing nobody's mentioned is that you might want to adjust your W-4 withholding with this change. Since you're effectively getting more taxable income, your current withholding might not be enough to cover the additional tax liability. I learned this the hard way last year when my company did something similar - ended up owing at tax time when I normally get a refund. Might be worth using the IRS withholding calculator to make sure you're having enough taken out to cover the difference!

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Chloe Taylor

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Would you need to fill out a new W-4 form for this? Or can you just ask payroll to withhold an additional specific amount each paycheck? I've never adjusted my withholding before and don't want to mess anything up.

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Omar Zaki

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You would need to submit a new W-4 form to your employer. There's a section on the form (Step 4c) where you can specify an additional amount you want withheld from each paycheck. You don't necessarily need to complete the whole form again. Many employers will let you just indicate the additional amount you want withheld. I'd recommend using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on the IRS website to calculate how much extra you should have taken out based on this new income. It's much better to handle this now than to get surprised with a tax bill next April!

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Diego Flores

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Does anyone know if companies are required to gross up these kinds of changes? My employer is planning to switch from $200 monthly stipends to a $2400 annual increase, but they're acting like they're doing us a favor when I know I'll lose money on this deal.

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No, there's no requirement for employers to gross up the amount. It's completely at their discretion. But it's definitely not a favor if they're just converting the same dollar amount from non-taxable to taxable!

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Diego Flores

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Thanks for clearing that up. I figured that was the case but wanted to check. Guess I'll be having a chat with my manager tomorrow with some calculations in hand!

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Received Notice of Intent to Seize (Levy) My Property - How to Handle IRS Back Taxes?

I have a question that's been weighing on me heavily for years. I haven't filed my taxes in about 10 years, which I'm really embarrassed to admit. I've been dealing with some significant health challenges including major clinical depression and severe anxiety. I also had a stroke last year which complicated things further. Despite these challenges, I've been making real progress with my health lately. This week, I finally got the courage to open the certified letters I've been receiving from the IRS over the past few years. I received a Notice of Intent to Seize (Levy) My Property or Rights to Property, showing I owe approximately $25,000 to the IRS. I'm honestly terrified about contacting them because my income isn't great and I have no idea how to approach paying this back. Realistically, I might be able to manage payments of around $200 per month, but even that would be really stretching my budget thin. The notice says I can go to their website to set up payment arrangements, but I'm scared to reach out. I'm worried they'll freeze my bank account and take the small savings I've managed to build up over the past few years. I'm feeling completely lost about what to do next. I acknowledge I need to pay this debt, but I'm wondering: Will the IRS accept such a small monthly payment? And how likely is it they'll seize the money in my checking account soon? The clock is ticking and I'm not sure what my options are.

QuantumQueen

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I work at a community tax clinic, and I see cases like yours frequently. One option that hasn't been mentioned yet is an Offer in Compromise, where the IRS agrees to settle your tax debt for less than the full amount if you qualify based on your income, expenses, asset equity, and ability to pay. With your health issues and limited income, you might be a good candidate. The IRS has become more flexible with these programs in recent years. You can check if you might qualify using the IRS's Offer in Compromise Pre-Qualifier tool on their website. Another option is Currently Not Collectible status. If your financial situation is dire enough, the IRS can temporarily classify your account as CNC, which stops collection activities while you're financially unable to pay.

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Diego Vargas

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This is incredibly helpful - I had no idea these options existed. Do these programs stop the levy process right away? And if I apply for an Offer in Compromise, how long does that typically take to process?

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QuantumQueen

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Yes, both applying for an Offer in Compromise or being placed in Currently Not Collectible status will stop the levy process immediately. The IRS can't continue collection actions while your offer is being evaluated or while you're in CNC status. The Offer in Compromise process typically takes 6-9 months from submission to decision. During this time, your collection statute (the 10-year period the IRS has to collect) is extended. If your offer is accepted, you'll typically need to pay the settlement amount within 24 months or in some cases as a lump sum within 5 months (which often results in a lower settlement amount).

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Aisha Rahman

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One important thing - KEEP IN MIND that the 10-year statute of limitations on collecting tax debt!!! Each tax year has its own 10-year clock that starts when the tax is assessed. If some of your unfiled returns are from 10+ years ago, the IRS may not be able to collect on those specific years anymore.

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Ethan Wilson

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This is only partly right. The 10-year clock doesn't start until the tax is actually assessed, which requires filing a return or the IRS creating a substitute return for you. For unfiled returns, that clock might not have even started yet!

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Mason Stone

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Don't forget about the Modelo 210 form - it's what non-residents use to declare their Spanish income tax. You need to file this even if you're not renting the place out! Spain assumes you're getting some benefit from owning the property even when it's empty, so they tax you on a "deemed income" basis during periods when you're not actively renting it out. The calculation is based on your property's cadastral value (kind of like assessed value). Also, watch out for the timing - you generally need to file by December 31 for the previous year's income, but if you're reporting rental income, the deadlines can vary depending on when you received the income.

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Is Modelo 210 something I can file online or do I need to physically go to a Spanish tax office? I'm planning to buy but won't be in Spain more than a few weeks each year.

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Mason Stone

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You can definitely file the Modelo 210 online through the Spanish Tax Agency's website. You'll need to get an NIE (Foreigner Identification Number) first, which is required for property purchase anyway. Many non-residents also use a "fiscal representative" in Spain - basically an accountant or lawyer who handles the filing for you. This is often the easiest option if you're only there a few weeks a year. Most of the online filing system is available in English now, which is a big improvement from when I first bought my place five years ago. But the translations can be a bit confusing sometimes, which is why many people just hire a local tax advisor for a few hundred euros per year.

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Has anyone here dealt with inheritance tax in Spain? My parents are considering buying a place in Mallorca but are concerned about what happens if one of them passes while owning the property. I've heard horror stories about Spanish inheritance taxes being really high for non-residents.

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Emma Olsen

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I went through this when my uncle passed and left his Malaga apartment to my cousin. Inheritance tax in Spain varies HUGELY by autonomous region - some regions like Madrid and Andalusia have big exemptions, especially for close family members. But as non-residents, you don't automatically get all the same benefits as residents. The good news is that in 2018, the rules changed to allow non-EU residents to benefit from regional tax rules instead of just the national ones, which are usually less favorable. So definitely check the specific inheritance tax rules for Mallorca (in the Balearic Islands region).

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Thank you so much for this info! I had no idea the rules had changed in 2018 - that's a huge relief. I'll definitely look into the specific rules for the Balearic Islands. Did your cousin end up paying a lot in inheritance tax, or were they able to take advantage of the regional exemptions even as a non-resident?

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Has anyone worked with a specialized R&D tax credit firm vs doing it yourself or using software? We're debating between hiring a specialized firm (charging 25-30% of the credit) vs trying to handle it internally with some software assistance.

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Omar Mahmoud

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We used [firm name] last year and they found about $180k in credits, but charged us $54k (30%). They handled everything including amending prior year returns. The documentation they prepared was really thorough which helped when we got some questions from the IRS. Expensive but worth it for the peace of mind.

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That's helpful to know. The 30% fee sounds high but having thorough documentation that stands up to IRS scrutiny seems worth it. Did they help with both the technical and financial documentation aspects? I'm also wondering about the amending prior years - did that cause any complications or did it go smoothly? We're considering going back to claim 2022 credits we missed.

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Chloe Harris

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Question for everyone - with the Section 174 capitalization requirements, has anyone found a good accounting software that properly handles tracking these R&D expenses separately? Our current system doesn't seem to have caught up with these tax changes.

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Diego Vargas

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We've been using QuickBooks with custom accounts set up specifically for R&D. Created separate accounts for domestic R&D (5-year amortization) and foreign (15-year). Then set up amortization schedules in Excel that feed back to our monthly journal entries. Not perfect but it works.

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Chloe Harris

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Thanks for the suggestion! That makes sense - creating custom accounts seems like a practical workaround. I'm still hoping software providers will catch up with better built-in solutions for these R&D tracking requirements. Our controller wasn't thrilled about the manual Excel approach but I guess that's what we'll need to do for now. Did you run into any challenges with mid-year R&D expenses and when to start the amortization?

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