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Javier Morales

How does Form 2210 safe harbor rule work if I've underwithholded? Does unemployment gap affect my tax year coverage?

I'm in a bit of a panic because I've significantly underpaid my 2023 taxes. When I ran the numbers, I realized my withholding will be less than 90% of what I actually owe, and the amount I'm short is definitely over $1000, so I know I'm not meeting those safe harbor provisions. I'm hoping there's another way out through the rule about withholding >100% of your previous year's tax liability. I've checked and I definitely withheld more than 100% of what I owed for 2022. BUT here's where I'm confused... the rule seems to say this only applies if my tax year covered at least 12 months. During 2022, I had a period of about 3 months where I was between jobs and not earning income. Does this still count as a "12 month tax year" for purposes of this safe harbor rule? Or am I going to get hit with an underpayment penalty on Form 2210 because of that employment gap? Anyone who knows how this works, I'd really appreciate your help!

You're actually in good shape here! The "12 month tax year" requirement doesn't refer to having continuous employment for 12 months. It's about whether you filed a tax return that covered a full calendar year (or fiscal year). Having a period of unemployment doesn't change the fact that your 2022 tax return covered January through December - that's still a 12-month tax year. As long as you filed a complete 2022 return covering all 12 months, and you've withheld more than 100% of your 2022 tax liability for your 2023 taxes, you qualify for the safe harbor provision. The IRS is basically looking to make sure you didn't have a partial-year return (like if you were a new resident who only filed for part of the previous year). Your employment status during the year doesn't affect whether it counts as a full tax year.

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Thanks for the explanation. But what if I moved to the US in the middle of 2022 and only filed a partial year return? Would the safe harbor still apply for my 2023 taxes?

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If you moved to the US in the middle of 2022 and only filed a partial year return, then the safe harbor based on 100% of prior year tax would not apply to you for 2023. The safe harbor specifically requires that your previous tax year covered 12 months. In that situation, you would need to either meet the 90% of current year tax threshold or make estimated payments throughout the year to avoid an underpayment penalty on Form 2210.

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Eduardo Silva

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Just want to add another bit of info regarding the 100% safe harbor (or 110% if your AGI is over $150k) - it applies to your TOTAL tax liability from the previous year, not just what you paid through withholding last year. So if you owed $10k total last year (including any amount you had to pay with your return), then you need to have withholding+estimated payments totaling at least $10k this year to qualify for safe harbor. That trips up a lot of people who think it's just about matching last year's withholding.

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Does that mean I need to include the self-employment taxes I paid last year too? Or just the income tax portion?

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Eduardo Silva

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Yes, you need to include ALL tax from last year, including self-employment taxes. The safe harbor is based on your total tax liability from the previous year - Line 24 on Form 1040 for 2022 returns, which includes income tax, self-employment tax, and any other taxes you paid. Many people make the mistake of only looking at their income tax, but for safe harbor purposes, the IRS looks at your total tax bill. That's why it's important to look at the actual line from your previous tax return rather than just remembering what you paid.

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Leila Haddad

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One more thing to consider - if your income was significantly higher in 2023 than in 2022, you might want to verify if you need to meet the 110% threshold rather than just 100%. If your AGI was over $150,000 in 2022 (or $75,000 if married filing separately), you need to have paid in at least 110% of your prior year tax liability to qualify for that safe harbor.

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Emma Johnson

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The 110% rule confused me last year. Does the $150k threshold apply to the CURRENT tax year or the PREVIOUS tax year?

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StarStrider

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The $150,000 threshold is based on your PREVIOUS tax year AGI. So if your 2022 AGI was over $150,000, then you need to pay 110% of your 2022 total tax liability during 2023 to qualify for the safe harbor. It doesn't matter what your 2023 income ends up being for this calculation - it's all about what you earned in the prior year.

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