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its so annoying that we have to pay federal taxes on this tbh. like were just trying to recover/take care of our babies š¤®
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Congrats on the baby! š Just went through this myself last year. One thing to watch out for - if you received any benefits in late December 2023, those might show up on your 2024 1099-G even though you already reported them. Also, keep all your documentation because sometimes the EDD amounts don't match what you actually received due to overpayments or adjustments. Better to have everything organized now than scramble later!
Has anyone actually received their refund EXACTLY at the 120-day mark? I'm genuinely curious if these timeframes are just maximum legal limits or if they actually use the full time period. It seems like such an arbitrary number.
From what I've seen working with taxpayers, the 120-day timeline is more of a "worst case scenario" that the IRS uses to manage expectations. In reality, most reviews are completed much sooner - typically within 60-90 days. The key factors that influence timing include: ⢠The complexity of your return and any credits claimed ⢠Whether the IRS needs additional third-party verification (like employer W-2s) ⢠Current processing volumes at the service center handling your case ⢠Whether your case gets flagged for manual review vs. automated processing Given that your letter was dated February 14th, you're already about 3 weeks in. I'd recommend checking your online account transcript weekly for any code changes, as this often updates before you receive any official correspondence. If you have documented medical hardship, you can also call the IRS to request expedited processing - they do have provisions for genuine financial hardship situations. The waiting is frustrating, but most people in your situation see resolution well before the 120-day mark!
This is really helpful information, thank you! I'm curious about the hardship provisions you mentioned - do you know what kind of documentation the IRS typically requires for medical hardship situations? I'm dealing with some unexpected medical bills myself and wasn't aware this was even an option. Also, when you say "check your online account transcript weekly," are there specific transaction codes we should be looking for that indicate progress is being made?
Can anyone clarify if capital losses expire? I thought I read somewhere that they eventually expire if not used within a certain number of years.
Good question! Under current US tax law, capital losses do NOT expire. You can carry them forward indefinitely until they're used up. This has been the case since 1997. Some people confuse this with net operating losses (NOLs) which do have carryforward limitations, but capital losses can be carried forward until they're fully utilized, regardless of how many years it takes.
I went through a very similar situation a few years ago when I transitioned from US resident to non-resident status. The forced $3,000 annual usage of capital losses against zero income was incredibly frustrating, especially when I knew I'd have significant US income again in the future. What I learned from my tax attorney is that you have two main options: either accept the annual $3,000 "waste" by continuing to file, or skip filing entirely during years with no US source income to preserve the full carryforward amount. The key insight is that as a non-resident with no US source income, you're generally not required to file a return at all. I chose to stop filing during my zero-income years and documented everything carefully. When I resumed filing three years later with US source income, I was able to claim the full original carryforward amount. Just make sure you keep detailed records of your last filed return showing the capital loss carryforward balance - this becomes your reference point when you resume filing. The IRS doesn't penalize you for gaps in filing when you have no filing requirement, and your capital losses remain valid indefinitely under current law.
This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this exact situation! I'm curious about the documentation you mentioned - did you just keep copies of your last filed return, or did you create any additional documentation to explain the gap years? I want to make sure I have everything properly documented if I decide to skip filing during my zero-income years.
Wait does anybody know if this also applies to the first and second stimulus payments too? We got all 3 rounds but now I'm paranoid about all of them lol
All three stimulus payments (First: $1,200, Second: $600, and Third: $1,400) were structured the same way - they were advance payments of special tax credits and NONE of them need to be paid back. This applies to all three rounds of payments!
Just to add some reassurance to what everyone else has said - I work as a tax preparer and can confirm that the Third Stimulus payments ($1,400 per person) absolutely do NOT need to be repaid. We've had countless clients ask about this same rumor, and I've had to explain repeatedly that these were advance payments of the Recovery Rebate Credit, not loans. The confusion often comes from people mixing up the stimulus payments with other programs like the Advanced Child Tax Credit or Paycheck Protection Program loans (which did have forgiveness requirements). But the stimulus checks were completely different - they were essentially prepayments of tax credits you were entitled to receive. Your brother-in-law is definitely mixing this up with something else. You can safely budget for your refund without worrying about any stimulus repayment!
Thank you so much for the professional confirmation! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who works directly with taxes. I was getting so stressed about this rumor. My brother-in-law tends to get his information from Facebook posts and treats them like gospel, so I should have known to double-check before panicking. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to clear this up - now I can go back to my original budget planning without worrying about surprise deductions from my refund!
Isabella Costa
the dates on those letters dont mean anything!!!! my letter was dated april 10 but the postmark on the envelope was may 3. the irs be sending stuff out weeks after they claim. dont worry about it honestly.
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Kevin Bell
Don't stress about this - it's totally normal! I went through the exact same thing last year. The IRS systems are notoriously slow to sync up with each other. When you verify your identity, that information doesn't instantly update across all their databases. The "no record of processed return" letter is basically an automated response that gets triggered when they can't find a COMPLETED return in their system at that moment. But your return is definitely there - it's just sitting in a processing queue waiting for all the verification checks to clear. I'd give it another week or two before calling. In my experience, once you see your transcript update with processing codes (look for TC 150 which means your return was accepted for processing), you'll know things are moving along. The whole process took about 3 weeks total for me after verification. Keep checking your transcript on Fridays since that's when they typically update. You've got this!
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